Heaven, Hell, Re-incarnation?

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26 Nov 2015 16:25 #210504 by Yugen
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Proteus wrote:

Bareus wrote:

Proteus wrote:

Bareus wrote:

Proteus wrote: Watch the ocean. What are the waves doing?

They.. Float on?


Close... keep at it. Really Observe here. :)

Hmm.. I kind of understand the symbolism (if you intend it to be symbolism)
Yet i can't seem to find. The right words

Maybe, the waves just float on, almost regardless of Circumstances and they don't worry about what happeneds in a day, a week etc. They just keep floating?


What are the waves part of? Where did they come from?


They are part of the sea, or the ocean
And they are created from the wind

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26 Nov 2015 16:28 #210505 by Proteus

Bareus wrote:

Proteus wrote:

Bareus wrote:

Proteus wrote:

Bareus wrote:

Proteus wrote: Watch the ocean. What are the waves doing?

They.. Float on?


Close... keep at it. Really Observe here. :)

Hmm.. I kind of understand the symbolism (if you intend it to be symbolism)
Yet i can't seem to find. The right words

Maybe, the waves just float on, almost regardless of Circumstances and they don't worry about what happeneds in a day, a week etc. They just keep floating?


What are the waves part of? Where did they come from?


They are part of the sea, or the ocean
And they are created from the wind


When a wave is done "waving", where does it go?

It seems that I know that I know.
What I would like to see is the 'I' that knows me when I know that I know that I know.
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26 Nov 2015 16:28 #210506 by Yugen
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Proteus wrote:

Bareus wrote:

Proteus wrote:

Bareus wrote:

Proteus wrote:

Bareus wrote:

Proteus wrote: Watch the ocean. What are the waves doing?

They.. Float on?


Close... keep at it. Really Observe here. :)

Hmm.. I kind of understand the symbolism (if you intend it to be symbolism)
Yet i can't seem to find. The right words

Maybe, the waves just float on, almost regardless of Circumstances and they don't worry about what happeneds in a day, a week etc. They just keep floating?


What are the waves part of? Where did they come from?


They are part of the sea, or the ocean
And they are created from the wind


When a wave is done "waving", where does it go?


Back into the ocean?

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26 Nov 2015 16:34 #210508 by Yugen
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Just as we return to this world when we are done "waving"
Ah.. I understand

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26 Nov 2015 17:29 #210523 by joseaplaza
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What do you belive happends after you leave your body /after death?

That's the illusion of self. There's no "you" to leave your body.

Death, Yet the force

Exactly.

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26 Nov 2015 17:44 #210525 by Reiji
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Proteus ask a really great yet simple question. The waves form into tides that recedes back and forth, however the waves are made out of individual water drops that eventually evaporate. Through evaporation, the water drops are absorb into the atmosphere and become part of the clouds that pours out those same water drops as rain, which falls back into the ocean...or on the earth where the soil/plants/animals/humans take in the water drops into their system.

Long story short nothing in the universe is created nor destroyed, but always flow in a continuous motion.

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26 Nov 2015 17:48 - 26 Nov 2015 17:55 #210526 by Khaos
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I must say i can't agree here
Everything isn't just "this"
There are many things that are yet to be proven, true
But life after death is a large possibility

As i belive in the force, i also belive in life with the force
And to live after i leave this plane, either one with the force or just.. One with the universe

You need not belive me


Uhhh, you dont have to believe me either, but I think the question was, what "I" believe happens when we die.

Whether you agree or not is irrelevant.

What has yet to be proven true is also irrelevant. What we have proof of so far points to the possibility, whether it exists or not to be unlikely.

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26 Nov 2015 17:50 #210527 by Khaos
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A better analogy, as opposed to waves and ocean is this.

What happens to ice cubes in a glass of water?

We are ice cubes.

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26 Nov 2015 18:14 - 26 Nov 2015 19:27 #210531 by Zenchi

First of all, lets lighten up. These are beliefs, and they are no more valid than anyone elses, but they are beliefs, not facts, and people need to remember that. I don't care if it is the opinion of everyone else here that we like waves, simply return to the ocean after we die, I don't necessarily disagree. I notice members assuming their right, not entirely describing why they think the way they do, or the process for that matter, or simply winking as if that means their right. We don't have to agree, but lets keep thing's in perspective...



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26 Nov 2015 18:56 #210536 by Khaos
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Actually, to be clear, everything I mentioned are facts.

After I die, I will be cremated. This is my wifes wish also.

Our ashes will be placed together.

As it is stated in our will.

Our planet is finite, so is our star.

Sure, there my beliefs, but there are also facts.

Anything else would be mere speculation.

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