Underwater Sonar Kills Stuff

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08 Jan 2016 17:32 - 08 Jan 2016 17:34 #220159 by OB1Shinobi
the most concise explanation that ive found of how sonar harms marine mammals was from http://blog.seattlepi.com/candacewhiting/2012/03/08/how-navy-sonar-kills-whales-and-dolphins/ which you can find in the spoiler

its a very quick read

Warning: Spoiler!


also, here is a 4 minute youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNVzHhocd8I

i didnt know, and i figured probably some others dont know either

People are complicated.
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08 Jan 2016 22:07 #220244 by MadHatter
Flat out bunk. Ive done HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of hours of SONAR around marine life and they come CLOSER not move away from it and NEVER ONCE have I EVER seen a single dead marine mammal. Ive watched us have to shut down military war games a year in the planning because whales and dolphines in the area would not leave the ships alone for us to stay active pinging. Yet again not a single dead or injured whale seen or reported.
This stuff is green peace bunk pure and simple.

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10 Jan 2016 19:16 - 10 Jan 2016 19:35 #220698 by OB1Shinobi
well, i do respect your experience and im glad to hear that every single ping doesnt necessarily cause massive death

but every source i can find agrees not only that sonar does kill underwater mammals, but that the navy has even admitted this

which is why youve had to "shut down" - because the claims have truth to them

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/does-military-sonar-kill/

im not trying to be argumentative, im willing to believe that sonar can be used without much harm, and in any event i certainly dont suggest that we can neglect training and compromise combat effectiveness

i shared this because it was news to me, and i figured others would find it interesting

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10 Jan 2016 21:01 - 10 Jan 2016 21:37 #220712 by OB1Shinobi
also just for the record, "greenpeace" is not a catch all label repesentative of every organization that promotes respect for wildlife

not saying that you think it is

i just didnt mention green peace and neither did the article or the video which i posted, so im not sure why their name came up?

People are complicated.
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