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01 Nov 2015 20:22 #207309 by
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First, allow me to open with an apology if this is not the correct sub-forum for this sort of topic, but it seemed like the best fit to me at the time. This topic / subject is something I have been mulling over for literally years, and recently with joining these forums it really re-sparked the interest in finding an answer for myself.

I've had this, I hesitate to call it an 'ability', but I've had this quirk for many years now where I can instantly trigger a 'rush' of tingling throughout my body. I don't bloody well know what it is, and it's incredibly intriguing.

The best way I can describe it is that it feels like I flex a 'muscle' in the middle of my brain, and instantly my body buzzes/tingles with some sort of euphoric rush of 'energy'. I can do it at will, but it's hard to trigger when I'm exhausted or distracted. Sitting here typing this though, I can trigger it whenever, and it's very strong.

I simply squeeze this 'muscle' in the middle of my brain, and feel a tingling rush all throughout my body, especially in my arms and thighs. I feel 'light', and it almost ilicts a smile/giggle response. Feels very euphoric and good.

I've done this for some time now, but never known what it is, or what the purpose is. I've researched it and found two discussions on the internet about it...

1. Reddit - I can make my body tingle intensely at will.
- Some say it is ASMR , but as someone who is easily triggered with ASMR, it is NOT the same at all.
- Another poster said:

I'm not deep into the Hindu beliefs, but this sounds somewhat like what people are said to experience when they are accessing kundalini energies. (Which would be basically the same thing as Qi or Chi or all the other names it has around Asia.)

-- This really got me interested in further exploration, in relation to the Force.

2. http://www.natmedtalk.com/showthread.php?t=20252
- Further discussion of the same phenomenon.

Overall it seems to be that the majority say it's a semi rare ability to channel energy, and has ties to chi / the force / etc. Does anyone have any input, insight, advice? It's very fascinating, but I'm not sure what it really means or what to do with it.

The most I've done is messed with an EMF reader on my smartphone. Apparently I can influence it slightly when I trigger these 'tingles', but I'd really need to research/record to prove anything solid to myself.

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01 Nov 2015 20:32 #207311 by RyuJin
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I do this all the time when physically exhausted for a quick boost in energy....it gets mentally draining and takes a considerable amount of rest to revitalize if you do it too often....I've always theorized that it was either a) a forced release of dopamine and adrenaline, or b) an ability to access our spiritual energy.....I don't get the tingly feeling anymore but I do get an elevated body temperature and become as fidgety/amped up as a child with a.d.d. on a sugar rush....

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01 Nov 2015 21:21 #207314 by Adder
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When you do it in your body, does it concurrently manifest on the face as well?

Try it and if not then read on;

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Otherwise I'm not sure. Is it mostly experienced within an inch of the outer layer, hence perhaps why the concentration might seem higher in the cylindrical limbs? Can you create a pool of that sensation at any part of the body in isolation to other areas, if so which areas are stronger and which areas are weaker of not accessible?

I don't pretend to have the answers but this is how I'd approach finding an answer. I can do similar but I always thought it was just me upping the conscious awareness of those above described systems - mostly because it tended to slightly alter how I would perceive normal stimulus when I was doing it.

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01 Nov 2015 22:38 #207317 by
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Hey Adder,

Thank you for the insight! This is the kind of research / questions I was totally hoping for.

The sensation feels deeply rooted in my body, at a muscle/skeletal level. When I trigger it without thinking about it too much, I feel it mostly everywhere (including the face faintly), though it is strongest at certain points in my body such as legs/arms.

After some self exploration brought on by your post, I notice it's very hard to get any of this sensation into my stomach, as if it's blocked. Actually, almost anywhere in my chest, hmm.

Otherwise, If I focus (just tried), I can move it to almost any area in a supremely concentrated form, including my face. Moving it all to my hands is the easiest, or my feet.

Really interesting, though, not sure what to do with this knowledge.

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02 Nov 2015 00:00 #207323 by Jestor
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I can do this as well, and use it to cool myself when hot... It can be 100°F and I can make goose bumps appear, lol...

As s martial artist, inslways figured I was tapping into my Ki, and making myself hyper aware of my body...

Never looked into it, lol...

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02 Nov 2015 00:40 - 02 Nov 2015 00:41 #207327 by
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I can do it but always assumed everyone else could too, so I've never thought about it much.. :dry:
Thanks for making me think!
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02 Nov 2015 01:26 - 02 Nov 2015 01:44 #207328 by RyuJin
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Jestor wrote: I can do this as well, and use it to cool myself when hot... It can be 100°F and I can make goose bumps appear, lol...

As s martial artist, I always figured I was tapping into my Ki, and making myself hyper aware of my body...

Never looked into it, lol...


i've done that too...

it seems we've all stumbled onto the same thing by taking different paths ....

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02 Nov 2015 06:57 #207344 by
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RyuJin wrote: it seems we've all stumbled onto the same thing by taking different paths ....


Well said! I'm very curious that so many here seem to know what this is, use it, or have used it.

Based on the links in my post, and what I've found in my research, it's clear not everyone has this control/ability/quirk. So... what does it mean? Can it be tied to something concrete? Can it be honed, improved, etc?

So many interesting questions...

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02 Nov 2015 07:00 #207345 by Edan
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Quick question... Why assume it's metaphysical?

"Evil is always possible. And goodness is eternally difficult."
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02 Nov 2015 07:10 #207346 by
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Hmm, good question!

I think I lean towards Metaphysical because to my knowledge, most humans are unable to 'trigger' a rise in the chemical levels/nerves in their body in the blink of an eye (to this strength). While we can of course trigger all sorts of aspects of our body, they typical require stimuli or other resources and can't be turned on and off as we will them.

This, combined with the fact these sensations seem to match the idea of Ki /Energy and countless other theories, it seemed like it may fall in that realm. I guess just labeling it 'unknown' would be the best, but I had to pick a sub-forum, this seemed like the best fit. ;)

Do I seem horribly off base? I'd love to hear your thoughts.

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02 Nov 2015 13:47 #207367 by
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You're not off base at all :)

I can do the same thing, though I had to practice it. I was looking for a way to feel the Force, so I came up with this technique:
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What I find interesting is that you describe it as flexing a muscle in the center of your brain. In that spot is the pineal gland, which many are starting to think is linked directly to this kind of phenomenon, and other spiritual experiences. It would seem you have direct control over it to a degree, and that's fascinating! In some ancient societies they called this the Third Eye. B)

Anyway, I can trigger the feeling at will as well. Over the years it seems more and more Jedi have been able to do this, though I don't know what to do with the ability. Maybe healing?

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02 Nov 2015 22:39 - 02 Nov 2015 22:41 #207393 by Adder
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It might not be Kundalini though, from memory that is said to rise up the spine and radiate 'up' and then out - not just manifest at will in parts of the body. I don't know though as I ain't no Yogi master, and it could be directly related like a sign of progress of building up Kundalini or something... but yea IMO I'd be guessing its not Kundalini.

For me that would be more about sacral energies specifically becoming aligned with other parts of the brain besides reproduction - which can dominate a large chunk of conscious awareness sometimes, especially in blokes.

So I do not think Kundalini is directly equivilant to Ch'i, but it probably is a particular manifestation of it. I do though, associate the sensation being discussed as Ch'i, again I cannot be sure, but its a great way to play with energy body work in those Asian cultures with it. Traditional Chinese Medicine has a lot of material on how they think Qi and other elements are placed and connected within the body.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Chinese_medicine

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03 Nov 2015 02:27 #207404 by RyuJin
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i have a lot of books by mantak chia, about energy work....i wish i had discovered them when i first discovered how to use energy...it would have saved me loads of experimentation and refinement...one example being "iron shirt"...i developed my own way of using it through lots of trial/error experimentation...after reading mankak chia's book about it i had learned that my method was nearly identical to his...it was something that seemed instinctively obvious to me...

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03 Nov 2015 18:38 - 03 Nov 2015 18:39 #207479 by
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Streen wrote: I was looking for a way to feel the Force, so I came up with this technique:


Thank you for sharing! I'll try this out later when I have some time to sit down and meditate.

Adder wrote: Traditional Chinese Medicine has a lot of material on how they think Qi and other elements are placed and connected within the body.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Chinese_medicine


Thank you for the links Adder! I've been reading over them, super interesting. Maybe this is some sort of Qi/Chi/Ch'i. I'm fascinated by it, really curious if it can be used for anything.

RyuJin wrote: one example being "iron shirt"...i developed my own way of using it through lots of trial/error experimentation


I'm super intrigued! Did you have a method/use for this you'd feel comfortable/want to share with the rest of us? So far it just feels like a fun trick to me 'WOO TINGLING', I'd like to focus on improving/using it for something.
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05 Nov 2015 02:13 #207676 by
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Lucky you. I think you should relax into the experience and meditate on it. See what happens. Given time and gentle attention you may have opened a door. How exciting!

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07 Oct 2016 16:44 - 07 Oct 2016 16:44 #260135 by
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I have felt exactly what you described. However, I haven't been able to access it without external stimuli. I feel a rush when I hear a concerto of cellos and violins play, or when I see a beautiful view in nature, and also when I imagine something spectacular.

It is a lovely feeling and it makes me smile everytime. Being able to access this on command would be awesome! Currently, however, I only get it from strange emotions, epic music or a fantastic sight.
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09 Oct 2016 05:33 - 09 Oct 2016 05:53 #260282 by Tarran
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You know, it sounds very much like a discharge of Jing (something many confuse with Chi/Qi).

Does the hairs on your arms and legs stand up as well? Like, can you get goosebumps at will? It wouldn't discount it if you don't, it's just that that's another example of a low-level Jing discharge.

I wonder if what I posted in another thread might be of assistance? Something to ponder, anyways. Here... https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/Spirit-Wind/47104-chi?start=10#201361

Tell me your thoughts on this, yeah?

P.S. ~ I know of which you speak because I can do it too... so you're certainly not alone, and I agree, it's not asmr.

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10 Oct 2016 10:53 #260435 by Gisteron
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Tarran wrote: You know, it sounds very much like a discharge of Jing (something many confuse with Chi/Qi).

You know, few ever confuse cooking with driving but many do confuse sorcery with wizardry. Why would that be? Also, if this sounds like a Jing discharge, what doesn't? I can name an activty that isn't juggling, I can name a force that isn't gravity, I can even name a feeling that isn't euphoria. Can you name an experience that isn't a Jing discharge?

... it's just that that's another example of a low-level Jing discharge.

Wait, so there are different levels of Jing discharges, too? How do we tell them apart, how do we identify which of two confirmed discharges is a lower or higher level? What is a unit of Jing charges?

I wonder if what I posted in another thread might be of assistance? Something to ponder, anyways. Here... [link]

Tell me your thoughts on this, yeah?

Read the entire post... I'm having difficulty to find the area in which it doesn't contradict everything we know about human anatomy, but aside from that, it's at least an entertaining read. Thanks! ;)

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18 Jun 2017 08:20 #287900 by ghost of the mist
I myself have a feeling similar to this but my tingling is focused on my whole body. When I channel it I can make it go wherever I tell it to. My problem is how long I can hold the feeling. I was wondering if you could tell me how long you can hold the feeling. I can hold for 2 minutes. I always thought I was alone.

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18 Jun 2017 21:14 #287940 by Adder
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Tarran wrote: You know, it sounds very much like a discharge of Jing (something many confuse with Chi/Qi).
Tell me your thoughts on this, yeah?


For me an awareness of Jing is a heavy dense feeling, while Qi is light and uniform, and Shen is vibrant and sharp - such that the Jing anchors the Qi (as a vessel) and the Qi carries the Shen (as if in suspension). Getting a buzz from good music makes the Qi dance as if it were imbued with Shen but importantly accommodated by Jing, IMO, but because they are so related and not quite distinct physical elements, it is IMO a blend of all three and different people might get a different dominant attribute.

Then of course the interesting things is if (how) this could relate to physical and mental health, as they do say music can heal :unsure:

ghost of the mist wrote: I myself have a feeling similar to this but my tingling is focused on my whole body. When I channel it I can make it go wherever I tell it to. My problem is how long I can hold the feeling. I was wondering if you could tell me how long you can hold the feeling. I can hold for 2 minutes. I always thought I was alone.


I dunno, I've never timed it. It depends on many things for me. Sometimes it can just sit there, and sometimes it aint gonna happen. If you can create it at will then perhaps you can look at energy 'healing' body work type of things to make some use of it, or use it as a diagnostic tool to assess your own health, or cast patterns into it to link to the imagination in an attempt to improve visualization. Can you amplify its intensity, if so do you think its safe?

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