Jedi First Responder – First Aid for the Jedi bystander

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28 May 2012 21:32 #62020 by Phortis Nespin
This is a new thread that I will be adding to over what I hope will be a long time. The idea of this thread is to make Jedi aware of the simple things that you can do when you see some medical emergency arise. The links that will be contained are common knowledge and with careful application, may save someone’s life. This is not a discussion thread; I will start another Q&A thread for questions on the subjects presented.


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The videos presented are not the views or practices officially endorsed by the TOTJO or any of their representatives. The videos are for informational purposes only, and the organization who posted the video is responsible for its content. If you are with a patient that needs help, remember to activate your EMS System by calling for an ambulance as soon as you can.

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I know there are some of you that may feel that you are afraid to get sued for helping someone. Rest assured that the “Good Samaritan” laws will protect you as long as what you are doing is not gross negligence or willful and wanton negligence. As Jedi we have a calling to help others and in this time of uncertain terror, we must be prepared to do our part. Remember… “KEEP CALM and CARRY ON”

Below are some links to the “Good Samaritan” laws that should protect you if the need for you to take action occurs. Keep in mind that in France and Germany, there is also the “Duty to Act” law that makes it mandatory for you to intercede in case of a medical emergency.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law

www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=2076&ChapterID=58

www.floridamalpractice.com/stat768.13.htm

www.bclaws.ca/EPLibraries/bclaws_new/doc...freeside/00_96172_01

www.chirurgeon.net/legal_canada.shtml

www.heartsafeam.com/pages/faq_good_samaritan


Please research the Good Samaritan laws for your area before moving ahead in these videos.

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28 May 2012 21:38 - 28 May 2012 21:53 #62022 by Phortis Nespin
The following video is about First Aid Kits and how to use them. Some of the equipment used is much more than you will carry, but a knowledge of their use may come in handy.




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28 May 2012 23:22 #62029 by ren

Keep in mind that in France and Germany, there is also the “Duty to Act” law that makes it mandatory for you to intercede in case of a medical emergency.


You're the first person I meet who seems to be aware of that :)

Also, I don't want to kill your efforts phortis, but people, honestly, if you want to be able to do something in case of an emergency, get proper training. It will last weeks, there'll be simulations and people to tell you what you specifically are doing wrong. this is something they should teach in school. Videos (and movies, and ER) often make people confident when really they shouldn't be...

When I was studying for my cert, the first thing they taught us is to avoid "suraccident", a concept that doesn't exist in the english language as far as i know. It basically means that when faced by an accident scene, you should avoid causing another accident, or making the accident worse in some way, injuring yourself, etc... As in, when you see someone down, dont jump there to do some cpr if there are cables on the ground... You could get electrocuted, and then the authorities will need twice the ambulances, medical staff, etc to deal with the situation...

Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies.

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29 May 2012 01:08 - 29 May 2012 01:17 #62039 by Phortis Nespin
Ren wrote:

Also, I don't want to kill your efforts phortis, but people, honestly, if you want to be able to do something in case of an emergency, get proper training.


Absolutely!! What I want to accomplish here is a place were we Jedi can come to learn & refresh our basic knowledge, but NOTHING substitutes a class presented by qualified instructors.

You will see as we get through the basic first aid stuff, that we will NOT be advocating going into harms way to help, but to be able to assist others should they become ill or injured while you are playing sports, at a family function, or at a picnic.

We are not trying to make paramedics out of you!!!
Just confident and helpful bystanders.
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29 May 2012 01:10 - 29 May 2012 01:19 #62040 by Phortis Nespin
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29 May 2012 01:51 #62045 by Alethea Thompson
In regards to things like Good Samaritan, the Aiding Law Enforcement Course I have written up requires you to research your own local laws because Good Samaritan can vary. Like in Japan, you touch the victim and are not certified in Japan as a some form of medical personnel...if the guy dies or suffers from serious injury...YOU can get sued regardless of if all you did was take a pulse. :/

I'd also suggest, along with common sense that Ren was talking about regarding Suraccident, learning how to evaluate a casualty (US Army does a good job of teaching this technique, it doesn't require that you get a certification, just that you know some basics-but if you are going to apply more advanced techniques [CPR & AED], you need legal backing to do so: GET THE CERTIFICATE.)

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29 May 2012 14:21 - 29 May 2012 14:22 #62094 by Phortis Nespin
The following link is chock full of info. It represents a curriculum for EMT's but has valuable info for approaching someone you know who is having a medical problem.

Remember, always ask first before touching someone. A simple, " Are You OK" or "Do You Need Assistance" in a friendly voice goes a long way to reassure the person you want to help and that you are no threat to them. Sometimes just sitting with someone while an ambulance is enroute will relieve stress in the victim and calm them which in turn reduces possible cardiac caused issues.


www.emergencymedicaled.com/241Patient%20Assessment.htm
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31 May 2012 02:27 #62248 by Adder
Thought this is ontopic;


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