The ADHD Fallacy

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12 May 2015 02:26 #191699 by Brenna
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ren wrote: Have yo ever taken the pills they give to kids with ADHD? It's like steroids for brains, minus all the water rentention, moobs and acne.I wouldn't be surprised if people have their kids diagnosed just to get their hands on ritalin without risking prison.


Yes I have. I was officially diagnosed at 9. Just one of the reasons for my views on the issue.



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12 May 2015 02:32 #191700 by Brenna
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Calem wrote: My little sister has ADHD and you're not in doubt if she missed her medication. She's all over the place.


I did not say that I dont believe that there are people with the imbalances that we attribute as the cause of the symptoms designated as ADHD, only that I do not believe it is a disorder.


And Luthien, Im the same. Recently when visiting my mother for a couple of weeks she watched me spend 13 hours beading a belt. Nothing else to distract me and I got up only to stretch and deal with the consequences of drinking so much tea! She laughed and commented that it was hardly an attention deficit.



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12 May 2015 05:07 #191715 by
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Brenna wrote:

Calem wrote: My little sister has ADHD and you're not in doubt if she missed her medication. She's all over the place.


I did not say that I dont believe that there are people with the imbalances that we attribute as the cause of the symptoms designated as ADHD, only that I do not believe it is a disorder.


I really need to learn how to express myself better. She wasn't an argument for or against as such, it was merely meant as a perspective to show that I've known both someone who clearly has ADHD and someone who doesn't :)
But I can guarantee you that in her it is a disorder, no doubt about that.

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12 May 2015 14:25 #191749 by
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The ADHD Fallacy: It’s Time To Stop Treating Childhood as a Disease


It's not a disease. It a uniqueness with special talents and gifts that are different from average person. That is why people, that are not ADD, call it a disease. They don't have tolerence for execptional individuals because of their limitations and vision. They think/expect everyone to be/act the same, like white bread.

I hate to quote movies but remember the "cure" for mutants?

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12 May 2015 14:29 #191751 by Zenchi
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Rickie wrote:

The ADHD Fallacy: It’s Time To Stop Treating Childhood as a Disease


It's not a disease. It a uniqueness with special talents and gifts that are different from average person. That is why people, that are not ADD, call it a disease. They don't have tolerence for execptional individuals because of their limitations and vision. They think/expect everyone to be/act the same, like white bread.

I hate to quote movies but remember the "cure" for mutants?


Extremely bad metaphor, mutants were the next stage in evolution in a fictional universe, ADHD is clearly not....

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12 May 2015 14:36 #191753 by
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I hate to quote movies but remember the "cure" for mutants?


Extremely bad metaphor, mutants were the next stage in evolution in a fictional universe, ADHD is clearly not....[/quote]

And who is to say it isn't? It may be too early to tell.

My point about a cure is the essence of to medicate or not to medicate.

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12 May 2015 15:29 #191757 by
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Luthien wrote: , the term "Attention-Deficit" is a misnomer: it's more of an attention-excess. That is, it's not that they have a difficult time paying attention, rather they have a hard time paying attention to just one thing. They have a hyper-awareness and they take everything in a lot quicker than most "normal" people do. )


Exactly Have you noticed how he is in a room filled with people all talking loudly at the same time?

I here everyone all at once. When it is quiet a pin drop can sould like someone dropped a rock in a garbage can. Peripheral vision is quite acute as well. Thoughts and decisions are instantaneous, a really good thing but a source of frustration waiting for others to catch up. It can offen result in AHEM spontanious speach and actions. At times not socially aceptable behavor, which is the real source of the incorrect lable of disease.

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12 May 2015 18:10 #191765 by
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Its the extremism of people that makes this such a hard topic.

I have seen kids in which medication is not only needed,but has helped immensely.

In others, its just kids being kids.

The problem is that people as a whole, tend to swing so far one way or the other.

There is never a discernment of what comes in between YES TO ALL, and NO TO ALL.

In regards to medications, that is never the case, with most things, that is not the case.

So I do not see it as a fallacy, I simply see it as another things in which humans can only seem to be all or nothing about.

Which in other regards, is our most destructive trait.

That of extremism.

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14 May 2015 18:11 #192016 by Kit
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Proteus wrote: This came to mind -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG9CE55wbtY

My daughter has trouble focusing in school, herself. The other day, her great-grandmother suggested that I put her on some medication to help her focus. I told her, I don't know if I agreed with that suggestion. She's 9. She's just being a kid, and I don't want her growing up having to rely on being doped up on medication to appease the demanded conformity of the system around her.


I was trying to remember where I heard this from and I found it :D

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14 May 2015 18:57 #192019 by
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I don't want her growing up having to rely on being doped up on medication to appease the demanded conformity of the system around her.


BRAVO!

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