Journal of the Whills

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07 Jun 2018 13:02 #322515 by Streen
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After my post in the Jediism section on the Guardians of the Whills, it was suggested that I start a journal-like thread to clarify my thoughts on the whole topic. Here is the original thread .

Ironically, the first hint of the Whills was given over 40 years ago; Star Wars was originally named Journal of the Whills. Sadly, George Lucas was never able to expand on this concept. There is a lot of speculation as to what the journal was or what were the Whills. It's been said that the Whills may have been an alien race who were telling the story of Luke Skywalker through the eyes of R2-D2, the witness of most, if not all, of the events that took place in Luke's life.

Whatever the original intent, we're given a new lens to see the concept through in [iRogue One[/i]. Chirrut Imwe and Baze Malbus call themselves Guardians of the Whills. Unfortunately we're not given any details as to what this title means, but it's clear through Imwe's actions that they are not average human beings. A blind man, Imwe appears to have a perception of his surrroundings that even those with sight do not. This is expanded upon in the book Guardians of the Whills, in which it is made clear that Imwe's senses are enhanced through an understanding of the Force, though he is not Force-sensitive.

Each chapter in the book begins with a quote from a text written by a former Guardian. For clarity, I decided to create a page that listed these quotes: https://streen.wixsite.com/whills

The first quote isn't actually in the book, but it's an excerpt from the Journal of the Whills, the age of which is unknown:

"First comes the day
Then comes the night.
After the darkness
Shines through the light.
The difference, they say,
Is only made right
By the resolving of gray
Through refined Jedi sight."

―Journal of the Whills, 7:477


I found this a few years ago, though I honestly have not been able to pin down where it came from or who wrote it.

I'm sure you're wondering why I'm going through all this, talking about Whills and Guardians, and things I know little about. As another Star Wars character once said, "'Why' is a question always deeper than its answer." I suppose the attraction is the mystery behind it all. When so little is known about a topic, I am inherently drawn to it. I love a good mystery, and it if helps my understanding of the Force as well, I am all the more interested.

But more importantly, I think I can relate better to a character like Imwe than any Jedi. He's a martial artist, like me. Having no Force abilities, only my senses, and a knowledge of, and faith in, the Force, it's hard not to feel a stronger relation than I once did with the characters Luke Skywalker, Streen, Jacen Solo, etc. He gives to those in need, thinking first of them and lastly of himself. He is not a violent man, and yet when the moment calls for it, he can be. He can see into the truth of a situation before those who can actually see. These are things I look up to.

I am open to questions if you have any.

"The Force is with me
and I am one with the Force;
and I fear nothing,
for all is as the Force wills it."

—Mantra of the Disciples of the Whills
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07 Jun 2018 16:51 #322532 by Carlos.Martinez3
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I’ve given some thought to this guy and his stance .
May the force of others be with you ...
I liked it so much that I sat and put it into my meditation.
To me - I make connections - every day connections - wether it’s music - money - information- spirituality - food - faith- all these things - I choose a connection . A step further is when I do - I share - what they believe - what others believe - their force . So in a way - I learn what their force is - the force of others. I add that to my very own . I got like a thousand by my count ! All the while getting more definitions - actual ones used - and difrent views - real ones. May the force of others be with you ... may you learn and grow by others and their paths - I like that. It’s not for everybody . But it’s for me! The opertunity to never grow stagnant! Yes

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14 Jun 2018 13:54 #322976 by Streen
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Since my last entry here, I did finally finish reading Guardians of the Whills. It didn't exactly offer any more insight as to who the Guardians are, but it did offer up a word that perhaps better describes who I am: disciple. One of Imwe's friends, Killi, is described as being a Disciple of the Whills. The difference between Killi and Imwe is something I can only speculate on, but I imagine that while Imwe is more of a warrior who once protected the Temple of the Kyber, Killi was more of a spiritual guide or adept of the Force. She wore similar garments to Imwe's, robes that symbolized who they were and what they stood for. Of course, with Jedha under Imperial control, they could not openly promote the ways of the Force, nor re-enter the Temple.

I'm sure it wasn't lost on most Star Wars geeks like myself that the planet name Jedha is remarkably similar to the word Jedi. Not only that, but in Rogue One, we're offered a glimpse of immense fallen statues, who I can only assume depicted Jedi holding lightsabers.

It's unfortunate, in a way, that Disney did not feel it important to expand upon these hints. I hope that more books are written, and perhaps even movies made, to explain exactly who the Guardians and Disciples of the Whills are. But in a way, I find it unimportant. Just the very hint of these people is enough inspiration to help me and other people find a more relatable group of people in the Star Wars universe, and maybe... just maybe... guide other Jedi down a path toward realism, even if we don't use the words, Jedi, Guardian, Disciple, or Whills.

"The Force is with me
and I am one with the Force;
and I fear nothing,
for all is as the Force wills it."

—Mantra of the Disciples of the Whills
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19 Jun 2018 13:09 #323319 by Streen
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In talking to certain people recently, I've become aware that Îmwe is almost like a Zen Taoist. As Lao Tzu said in the Tao Te Ching, "The sage does little, but leaves nothing undone." Îmwe seems to follow this philosophy, as when we first see him in Rogue One he is just sitting in the city of Jedha, seeking only alms. But when the fighting starts, he solves the problem with violence, completely wiping out a squad of stormtroopers on his own. What does he do then? He waits. He seems to be reaching out with his senses left to him. And when another squad shows up, his friend Baze Malbus (a former Guardian of the Whills) takes them out with a flurry of blaster bolts.

Îmwe and Baze have a brief dialogue as to what protected him from the second squad, Baze or the Force. Îmwe seemed to imply that there wasn't a difference. It reminds me of what my mentor once asked: "Does the Jedi use the Force or does the Force use the Jedi?" Obviously, the term "Jedi" is not the point here, but the idea that what we do to express our spirituality is not an either/or scenario. It's both/and.

"The Force is with me
and I am one with the Force;
and I fear nothing,
for all is as the Force wills it."

—Mantra of the Disciples of the Whills

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22 Jun 2018 14:18 #323462 by Streen
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I thought it might be appropriate to post this, so everyone can see what I'm talking about


"The Force is with me
and I am one with the Force;
and I fear nothing,
for all is as the Force wills it."

—Mantra of the Disciples of the Whills
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22 Jun 2018 22:21 #323476 by Streen
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I caught myself daydreaming just now, thinking about what it would be like to walk around in the robes of a Guardian of the Whills. The following happened in my imagination...

I was sitting on the ground in my backyard, and a young woman approached me. "What's with the robes? What are you?" she asked.
"I'm a Guardian of the Whills", I answered with a smile.
"Guardian? What are the Whills?" she inquired.
"The Whills are an ancient race of beings", I explained, "Storytellers, you might say."
"What stories?" she questioned me further.



My mind stopped wandering then. Some of that was based on what I've read on the internet, but I felt like the Force was guiding my mind down a particular avenue. This was something that I used to do a lot, imagining myself asking questions, or being asked questions, and somehow finding the answers.

"The Force is with me
and I am one with the Force;
and I fear nothing,
for all is as the Force wills it."

—Mantra of the Disciples of the Whills
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22 Jun 2018 23:06 #323478 by Arisaig
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So do you plan on making these robes? (always loved the look of Chirrut's garb) and if so, would they just be for certain use, or do you plan on going daily with these things?

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28 Jun 2018 19:46 #323717 by Streen
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Arisaig wrote: So do you plan on making these robes? (always loved the look of Chirrut's garb) and if so, would they just be for certain use, or do you plan on going daily with these things?


I considered it, making my own. I also considered buying them (only found them in one place), but the novelty of the whole idea is wearing off. I don't think this "guardians of the whills" thing was right for me. It felt nice to follow that fad, but feeling good isn't the goal.

Instead of wearing some kind of special robes, I'd rather wander the Earth in regular clothes, "hiding" in plain sight. How does the saying go? "Clothes do not make the man"?

I say this for a very particular reason. Part of it is because of something that happened to me in highschool. My history teacher used the word "inconspicuous", and one kid asked what it meant. After the teacher explained, he asked the kid if he knew of anyone who was inconspicuous. He pointed directly at me, and said "Him!"

I can't tell you how happy I was to hear that. I never liked drawing attention to myself, and to know that I was accomplishing that without trying was incredibly satisfying. It told me who I was, that I could walk into a crowd and disappear, allowing me to do what is necessary without being noticed. Which is why you won't see me wearing special clothes to symbolize what I am. My average, normal, regular clothing state something far more important: humility.

Not to say "I am humble!", since that would be a contradiction, or a paradox. Instead, I simply be myself, whether that means I'm humble or not. I don't really care. Does that make sense?

"The Force is with me
and I am one with the Force;
and I fear nothing,
for all is as the Force wills it."

—Mantra of the Disciples of the Whills
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01 Jul 2018 14:12 #323803 by Streen
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I'd like to apologize for my previous words. I was acting arrogant, under the guise of "humble". I've realized something in the past 12 hours or so, and that is that while clothes may not make the man, they certainly represent the man. My clothes do not represent humility; they represent a lack of self-respect.

This all came to me last night as I laid in bed, having trouble sleeping because something was bothering me, gnawing at me. I was conflicted about my participation here, who I was, etc. Am I a Jedi? A Taoist? A Christian? A Guardian? I had no answers. I realized something that had been drilled into me for years now: Life is not about knowing; it's about choosing. So I made a choice. I may not know if I'm a Guardian, but I can choose to be one.

This morning I found a replica of Îmwe's staff and purchased it. I figure that next month I'll purchase the robes. I need to stop pretending. Some might say that my Guardian attire could be considered pretending, but no, I've been pretending to be someone else my entire life. Never admitting to what I really am. I've pretended to be a Christian, a Taoist, a Jedi... it seems "Guardian" describes me best. I've decided to follow my heart. Any time I do it's the only time I feel whole, and I stop pretending to be someone I'm not.

If you've read all this, then thank you for your patience and your understanding.

"The Force is with me
and I am one with the Force;
and I fear nothing,
for all is as the Force wills it."

—Mantra of the Disciples of the Whills
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01 Jul 2018 14:21 #323805 by Arisaig
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Street wrote: This morning I found a replica of Îmwe's staff and purchased it. I figure that next month I'll purchase the robes. I need to stop pretending. Some might say that my Guardian attire could be considered pretending, but no, I've been pretending to be someone else my entire life. Never admitting to what I really am. I've pretended to be a Christian, a Taoist, a Jedi... it seems "Guardian" describes me best. I've decided to follow my heart. Any time I do it's the only time I feel whole, and I stop pretending to be someone I'm not.

If you've read all this, then thank you for your patience and your understanding.


Oh I understand the feeling. Being a Jedi without robes almost feels like pretending at times, when some may argue wearing robes makes it pretending. When you're wearing them, you have little choice but to be a Jedi, even if in pretend for cosplay or in real life Jediism. Not to say I would wear them always (it gets damn hot sometimes ;p) but I would love the option of wearing them for events, Knightings, and meditation. Makes all this a little more real, even if just to myself.

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