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Connor L. wrote: I myself made an account a month or so ago. Unfortunately, I haven't had time to delve into the Nietzsche yet... it's quite hefty and I am finishing up school.
i've had an account there for a few months now....
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Alan wrote: Sithism interests me not at all but, Nietzsche does. Why would I want to filter my reading of Nietzsche through Sithism? That's a genuine question, why would I? Does Sithism have some insightful interpretation of Nietzsche?
This is not a genuine question.
If Sithism interests you not at all, chances are, even if they were somehow insightful in regards to Nietzsches work, your indifference would more than likely blind you to it.
Thats one of the consequences of a bias.
So, the question is hardly genuine, whats genuine, is your disinterest.
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Alan wrote: Sithism interests me not at all but, Nietzsche does. Why would I want to filter my reading of Nietzsche through Sithism? That's a genuine question, why would I? Does Sithism have some insightful interpretation of Nietzsche?
Its a bit the other way around Alan, Nietzsche was, and still is one of the most influential authors that had a hand in the creation of the fictional Sith and Sithism (two distinct different things there). His work has a huge role to play in what I call "Modern Sithism." So the question isn't to ask if Sithism can offer an insightful interpretation of Nietzsche, but how has Nietzsche's works helped to shape sithism as we know it.
If an individual is interested in learning from both sides of the coin per say, than I would highly recommend Nietzsche's works among others in order to understand Sithism better, just as I would suggest the Tao, the Bushido or something on Buddhism to gain a generalized perception on Jediism...
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Zenchi wrote: I found the question pretty straight forward...
And I found both Alan's and Rickie's questions rhetorical, and really not 'questions' but 'ponderings'...
I definetly could be wrong, but judging by the responses, Id say Im not, lol...
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Connor wrote: Why bother with the Jedi stuff?
I'm not sure I get why you're bringing that point up if you aren't going to give thought to the reciprocal.
Im not 'doing Jedi stuff', personally... (Although I guess it could be argued, lol)
I am studying for Jestor...
Titles and pigeon-holing be damned, lol...
Ive lived a less positive life, and Ive moved on... It was just a step to be worked through...
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Sith ain't Evil...
Jedi ain't Saints....
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Rickie wrote:
Zenchi wrote: I found the question pretty straight forward...
specifically this..."if you aren't going to give thought to the reciprocal." I may be having one of my dumb as a rock moments?
Quite possibly, you may be having trouble recognizing that it wasn't a question. The actual question was "Why bother with the Jedi stuff?" and it was more rhetorical than a curiosity. The other sentence was a statement.
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And I found both Alan's and Rickie's questions rhetorical, and really not 'questions' but 'ponderings'...
I definetly could be wrong, but judging by the responses, Id say Im not, lol...
I figured they weren't expecting answers, was just being my silly sarcastic self, lol...
(Not pointed at anyone specifically) Please people, keep the discussion on topic, you need to feed your ego please start a thread for it....
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Zenchi wrote: Jestor wrote:
And I found both Alan's and Rickie's questions rhetorical, and really not 'questions' but 'ponderings'...
I definetly could be wrong, but judging by the responses, Id say Im not, lol...
I figured they weren't expecting answers, was just being my silly sarcastic self, lol...
(Not pointed at anyone specifically) Please people, keep the discussion on topic, you need to feed your ego please start a thread for it....
http://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/Humour/110485-jestor-s-ego#190726
Warning: derail into silliness...
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Connor L. wrote: Why bother with the Jedi stuff?
I'm not sure I get why you're bringing that point up if you aren't going to give thought to the reciprocal.
Was a response to:
Rickie wrote: We are all aware of our light/dark, Ying/Yang as I prefer. So why bother with this sith stuff? Your're just dragging in more of the movies thing.
If I understand your argument here, Rickie, it's that talking about Sith stuff is just needlessly brining in fiction lingo. Connor was making the same point about Jedi and then saying that if we have one we, by default, must also have the other. Like if a Christian wanted to believe in Heaven but not Hell. One needs the other.
At least I think that's what it all means. I could be way off, I have been before and will be again. :laugh:
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Goken wrote: Like if a Christian wanted to believe in Heaven but not Hell. One needs the other.
At least I think that's what it all means. I could be way off, I have been before and will be again. :laugh:
You most assuredly are. Try day and night, or any other dual metaphor that doesn't point to one or the other being less, or worse than the other in value in relation to the discussion at hand...
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Alan is familiar with neitzsche - im betting he could give a lecture on the subject if it suited him or could at least put one together in short order
he specifically said "thats a genuine question"
i usually take people at their word when their words are precise
Rickie has come to the point where he sees it as being one path - i.e. growth and development in and of itself without the urge to say "this is different - that is different - we're different - youre different" and doesnt see that "sithism" has anything to offer which isnt either an indulgence on selfisness that actually takes away from course of jedi growth OR just an intrinsic part of whole self integration which is at the heart of the jedi path to begin with - in other words; unnecesary
Conner was annoyed that he saw yet another pot shot taken at his preffered philosophy
thats my interpretation
im curious how i did lol
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