We need you!

Let's get serious now, no more jokes :blink:

I hope everyone is enjoying the sermons being delivered, some other Wednesday and Saturday. People who have been striving to work out these messages, have done so wholeheartedly and with much love for each of us, for our enrichment, to help us on our way Jedi.
For this work to continue, we rely on the collaboration of some members, some frequently, others more sporadic. Still, we all have lives outside the temple and we can not always devote ourselves to two or more things at the same time. With that in mind I would like to ask for help from members who can volunteer to fill in the gaps we have in our Schedule of sermons.
Follow the link from the schedule:

https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/Weekly-Sermons-and-Live-Services/111166-2015-2016-sermon-schedule?start=10

Written sermons: to occupy these dates need not be clergy member
Live service: we need members who are at least Licensed Minister, Initiateds or Knights

I would greatly appreciate the cooperation of all for this fantastic work continues, and we have minimum holes in our Schedule. If you fit these requirements and would like to volunteer, please send a PM to me or Rosalyn J.

MTFBWY

I will sure love to help, whenever I have accomplished to get the needed requirements. I intend to follow the religious path as well, so, when "there" is "here", I'll apply.

Perhaps the sermon schedule needs to be reviewed? We decrease the number of sermons perhaps until we can fill the number, then gradually increase the schedule.

MrBruno wrote:

Let's get serious now, no more jokes :blink:

MTFBWY

Edan wrote: Perhaps the sermon schedule needs to be reviewed? We decrease the number of sermons perhaps until we can fill the number, then gradually increase the schedule.

I believe the schedule was increased due to too many for what was available...

Someday, we may have so many, that they are posted daily, lol...

Jestor wrote:

Edan wrote: Perhaps the sermon schedule needs to be reviewed? We decrease the number of sermons perhaps until we can fill the number, then gradually increase the schedule.

I believe the schedule was increased due to too many for what was available...

Someday, we may have so many, that they are posted daily, lol...

Well this is what I mean... perhaps it needs to be decreased again until interest has increased?

I think we will be fine with the schedule as is. Its best we not go backward

Edan wrote:

Jestor wrote:

Edan wrote: Perhaps the sermon schedule needs to be reviewed? We decrease the number of sermons perhaps until we can fill the number, then gradually increase the schedule.

I believe the schedule was increased due to too many for what was available...

Someday, we may have so many, that they are posted daily, lol...

Well this is what I mean... perhaps it needs to be decreased again until interest has increased?

I do not know the volume of sermons, and so I can only trust they know whether adjustment is needed...

Even if we have a full compliment, occasional reminders are not bad, and rather than say, "hey, did you do your sermon?", this can also serve as a reminder...

Jestor wrote:

Edan wrote:

Jestor wrote:

Edan wrote: Perhaps the sermon schedule needs to be reviewed? We decrease the number of sermons perhaps until we can fill the number, then gradually increase the schedule.

I believe the schedule was increased due to too many for what was available...

Someday, we may have so many, that they are posted daily, lol...

Well this is what I mean... perhaps it needs to be decreased again until interest has increased?

I do not know the volume of sermons, and so I can only trust they know whether adjustment is needed...

Even if we have a full compliment, occasional reminders are not bad, and rather than say, "hey, did you do your sermon?", this can also serve as a reminder...

It was only a suggestion...

I believe we have enough members to make these sermons, rewind does not seem a good option. All we need in my opinion, is to make public that these people can help us, they are necessary. Every time I ask, "hey, someone can take that date?" it rains PMs of people volunteering. It is only a matter of relaying information. :silly:

It is also helpful to remind people that you don't have to be a member of the Clergy, or even a Knight, to submit a sermon to be posted. I know that that held me back for a long time.

My intention with this post was really leaves the question open for those with a little more time. This month will surely be a little more difficult, people who are in college are in final exams, those who work are in season year closing.
To make a sermon, one has to really be at a certain level of training, but what matters most is that this message comes from the heart. I'm sure for some, even the most simple words can make a big difference.
So my invitation remains open

I wrote two sermons: one open, one live. Neither were used and in fact one was completely discarded in favor of another. Why should I bother?

Really?? Im so sorry. It was likely my oversite. My appologies

I get that we all make mistakes, but I had gone out of my way to notify you that the sermon was ready just a few days before it was to be published. I put it in the queue and all that was necessary to publish it was for someone with proper access to hit "publish".

My name was on the Sermon Schedule for both dates and somehow they were completely overlooked. I'm asking why I should bother signing up, putting the effort and forethought into writing them if this is the kind apathetic negligence they get? I know people are busy, but so am I and it's ridiculous that I'm being asked to write more while this issue has gone unnoticed and unaddressed.

And before anyone appeals to our "go with the flow" kind of culture here at the Temple, there's a difference between a controlled relaxed atmosphere and an atmosphere ripe with things falling apart. Why should anyone put the time and effort into a writing a sermon when they're not treated as such? The time and effort, the meaning of the sermon; all trampled on under the foot by a lack of respect.

Agreed...

Since you seem to really be put out, I would suggest you don't offer to write anymore...

Use your time for something you find worthy of your time and energy...

Same advice I would give to anyone...

I've seen years of work tossed out here, and a similar reaction...

It happens..

Genetally, it is neither "lack of respect", nor should it be taken personally...

But, that also happens...

I don't take it as a personal offense, but it was still disrespectful. Do I think Ros or anyone here is out to devalue my work? Nope. But I also think that even the most unintentional negligence can be disrespectful or harmful.

I have already started to redirect my energy to different pursuits to benefit the Temple and I'm awaiting a reply from the Synod, however because my proposal was sent in just a week before Thanksgiving and there are two Americans on the Synod, I suspect it will be another week or so before I even get an acknowledgement.

Jamie,
I want you to know that I am working on being more responsible so that this doesnt happen again.
For example, I will have emails for sermons coming to my phone. That way I can know sermons are waiting. Bruno has been helping me with reminding people of their sermons and such. Also, there was a period of time in which notifications of PMs were getting sent to my spam (for whatever reason). This position has been a learning process for me.
I'm sorry I slighted you.

Look, I don't want to get bogged down in the details of one specific case because I don't think it's going to make anything better, but for the record you did reply to my message thanking me for letting you know (that the sermon was completed and waiting in the queue) which means you received my message, read it, replied and simply didn't use the sermon I sent in for whatever reason. People got really mad at me for wanting to formalize the processes which the clergy use to do stuff and I was told not to take things so seriously, but this kind of thing was exactly why I was the way I was about it. It's not being stuffy for the sake of being stuffy, but rather trying to dignify the work people do for this Temple with the proper respect it deserves.

The clergy is disorganized and just about every naysayer (within and without the clergy) has said so, but the Synod (like all bureaucracies) is a slow-turning wheel made worse by a relaxed culture where we strive to be as flexible as possible while not acknowledging the fact that at times it's not flexibility but an absence of attentiveness. I have decided that my time would probably be better spent helping reconstruct the clergy than enable the dysfunctional lack of process which the clergy operates on.

Ok. Like I said, I'm really sorry. I don't actually remember getting a message from you. For the record, I had a look at the article manager and the only sermon I see is "Honoring Today" I'm not going to make excuses. I'm just going to commit to doing better.

Edit: Oops, was thinking of the wrong person...under duress and all. The author of that sermon was actually cryo