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05 Sep 2012 15:53 #72303 by Jon
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05 Sep 2012 20:29 #72353 by MCSH
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Oh come on!
there is every where in every religion people like this! Why you focus on these? Why don't you look at those real Muslims? These are ROLE PLAYING! They are not Muslim! I'm sure if you search you can find Christians like these 'Muslims'. STOP ADVERTISING AGAINST ISLAM! look at those real ones.

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05 Sep 2012 21:21 #72355 by Xon-Tay Lor
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How do we tell the real Muslims from the role players? What does this religion have to offer to people living in the 21st century? I am not singling out Islam, because I ask the same question to Jews and Christians. What do any of the Abrahamic religions have to offer the modern world?

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05 Sep 2012 21:26 #72356 by MCSH
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okay sorry I lost my control.

It's not fair to judge all of Muslims by these...

Well, I agree with you on some points. These religions need an update. In Islam, each person has to choose another person and follow his rules (There are some hard "Condition" for this second person...) and his job is to research for new things and put them in Islam.

As an example, when washing machine was invented, Muslims in my country wasn't sure if they could use it to clean najis things. So these people researched ans declared that using this washing machine is allowed.

you know what I mean?

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07 Sep 2012 22:08 - 07 Sep 2012 22:11 #72652 by Neaj Pa Bol
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As Jedi we should defer from Judgement and seek to understand in and around these faiths... I for one am glad to see someone willing to lend their knowledge for what the religion is and standards of practice... As with anything in this world today, extremes come from that, that is shown in and at its dark moments. It sells news and stirs up emotions.

I for one, would like to see more of the history of Islamic faith and not judge its differences as how we have come to hear it... Lets start with Basics and History Please... Sajjad Heydari, I ask for your assistance in this to further everyone who wishes to hear not just the darkness of islam, but of its beginings.

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08 Sep 2012 14:16 #72731 by Jon
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When I posted that video I expected an excited reaction. Obviously this does not portray the whole of Islam even though for the persons involved the facts speak for themselves, but what would interest me is: what is going wrong here? where do these radical ideas come from (where are they based in the Coran?)? how does the rest of Islam differentiate themselves from this?

Another question has also been going through my mind which you may be able to help me on: do the Saudi Sheikhs answer to Islamic laws, morals and the Coran as do all Moslems or are they exempt? If so why and how?

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08 Sep 2012 14:59 #72740 by MCSH
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It is not coran, it's Quran.

Islam has lots of sects, which mainly are "Shia" and "Sunni", and each have their own separated sects...

Once Mohammad-The prophet- said "Later my followers will be in 72 different idea, each claiming to be the right one"

I don't know much about Saudi. But in my country shaikhs have to respond to law just as anyone else.

(Again sorry for the reaction)

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08 Sep 2012 21:53 #72816 by Jon
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Forgive any inaccuracies on my part, no disrespect ment, but here in Germany Muslims refer to it as the Koran as well as the Qur'an. The scriptures by Islamic centres and distributed among native Germans is titled "The Koran".

Thank you for the infos, although I was hoping for something more in depth as I am not well informed but am interested.

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08 Sep 2012 23:44 #72823 by ren
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It's called coran as well in french

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09 Sep 2012 06:19 #72832 by The Old Doris
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Every one has their belief and everyone is entitled to have their belief...

My opinion and my belief is my and I don't take much heed in what others think of it.

Sajjad, if you love and believe deeply in your faith then be happy with how you precieve your belief and not worry how others look at your faith.

I will shout from the roof tops about my belief in the Jedi path, I'm not sure how many here would even admit in the real world they they are Jedi, but I dearly hope all would...

But hey what do I know I'm just THE OLD DORIS...

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