Physical TOTJO Temple in Texas Project

Similar dream, Kitsu...

Jestor wrote: There are many things fighting against the idea, and what happens I'd it sounds like we are hanging up....

Take your proposal of west Texas, who is going to man it? Move there to maintain it?

It can't just sit empty, with the keys 3-4 hours away...

The progression will most likely be:

We will grow more dense, then we will have get togethers in parks, halls, and homes more and more frequently...

Then we will seek a existing building to rent, SOMEDAY, we will get there, but not soon, and this isxwhy the thoughts die...

At this juncture, owning land, even if given to us, where we have any kind of expense like the taxes, is difficult...

We still are not able to support the website on donations...

Its a long rroad, and there needs to be a progression...

We can't jump from learning to crawl to flying to the moon without the progressive growth...

Jestor, if you get the land, I got a tent and camping gear. "Go into exile we must go, until the time is right" ( ok, well not exactly...but i'll become the crazy old hermit in the desert and look after the property if it gets me away from my wife lol

Kitsu Tails wrote: I wasn't disagreeing with any of that. Heck...I have plans and layout for and entire Retreat Center with everything a community would need to sustain itself offline

I was merely disagreeing with the location I would not put it in texas.

Something something "if you build it...".

Keep in mind you have 4 TOTJO members living in Texas currently. Brenna, Wes, and I will soon all be living within 5 minutes of each other, and John (the founder) is 4.5 hours away from us.

So, from a TOTJO perspective, it could be fun to have it in Texas!

...( Whispering voice) ....If you build it...they will come....

Field of Dreams

I think this impulse is as deeply human as can be, just look at Stonehenge...

I think all the reasons to want the physical Temple are valid. I think its fine to plan and save for the goal of buying land, but do something Force-ful with it! Not just another building... Something off the wall, blow-out Schrodinger's box!

I sincerely don't believe the Force needs another building...

Heck, I used to live in Texas, and I loved it. I'm just looking for a reason to go back. In all honest if there was a physical Temple there I'd move in a heart beat. I still keep in contact with a lot of the people I met when I lived in Texas.

SilverWolf wrote: ...( Whispering voice) ....If you build it...they will come....

Field of Dreams

Hehe. My buddy in boot camp used to whisper this to me during formations. It was almost impossible to keep from laughing

SilverWolf wrote:

Jestor wrote: There are many things fighting against the idea, and what happens I'd it sounds like we are hanging up....

Take your proposal of west Texas, who is going to man it? Move there to maintain it?

It can't just sit empty, with the keys 3-4 hours away...

The progression will most likely be:

We will grow more dense, then we will have get togethers in parks, halls, and homes more and more frequently...

Then we will seek a existing building to rent, SOMEDAY, we will get there, but not soon, and this isxwhy the thoughts die...

At this juncture, owning land, even if given to us, where we have any kind of expense like the taxes, is difficult...

We still are not able to support the website on donations...

Its a long rroad, and there needs to be a progression...

We can't jump from learning to crawl to flying to the moon without the progressive growth...

Jestor, if you get the land, I got a tent and camping gear. "Go into exile we must go, until the time is right" ( ok, well not exactly...but i'll become the crazy old hermit in the desert and look after the property if it gets me away from my wife lol

Dude that would be awesome. We could get a rebel base going and stop the Corporate Empire from enslaving the Earth. Can you imagine all the people living for today? You may say I'm a dreamer... but I'm not the only one.

Whyte Horse wrote: Dude that would be awesome. We could get a rebel base going and stop the Corporate Empire from enslaving the Earth. Can you imagine all the people living for today? You may say I'm a dreamer... but I'm not the only one.

Waco 2.0, Order #66.

To actually complete my post... squirrel....

While I acknowledge the deeply rooted human-impulse to temple-up, I don't find the concept as powerful a siren song as I might have at one time in my life.

I think it is worthwhile to plan for, but I think there are a number of priorities which need to be realized prior to making it a major focus...

I agree with the sentiment that there are already lots of existing spaces in the world which offer ample place to connect with the Force.

For everything there is a time... As mentioned by someone else, in connexion with another topic, in a different thread, it is just a matter of priorities...

Connor L. wrote:

Kitsu Tails wrote: I wasn't disagreeing with any of that. Heck...I have plans and layout for and entire Retreat Center with everything a community would need to sustain itself offline

I was merely disagreeing with the location I would not put it in texas.

Something something "if you build it...".

Keep in mind you have 4 TOTJO members living in Texas currently. Brenna, Wes, and I will soon all be living within 5 minutes of each other, and John (the founder) is 4.5 hours away from us.

So, from a TOTJO perspective, it could be fun to have it in Texas!

4 vs.....how many does Chicago Chapter have? 12?

Never the less....I sure would be happy to see a Texas Chapter group show up on Gathered Force Community.... :whistle: Just...sayin....

If land was really the only problem. I would donate acreage to the temple. The UP of Michigan is an amazing place and I do own property there. There are a few monasteries and such there that are absolutely AMAZING places of peace and harmony.

I really like the realization of the website, we can create a much more equal playing field here. Not everyone can just drop everything and go live in a temple. Its not not financially possible.

Jedi_Roz wrote: If land was really the only problem. I would donate acreage to the temple. The UP of Michigan is an amazing place and I do own property there. There are a few monasteries and such there that are absolutely AMAZING places of peace and harmony.

You will have to let me know when your in Michigan ......Or if you ever plan to sell your property hehe I need to visit UP sometime. Im more near Lansing area though

You're missing the point of my statement. There are 4 TOTJO members in Texas. The title of this thread is a Physical TOTJO temple.

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So, great, go ahead and build a Chicago Temple. lol. There can be more than one.

I didn't miss the point at all. I understand what you are trying to get at. There is a huge amount of logistics to consider before something like this is even considered feasible.

Not you.

Kit.

Connor L. wrote: Not you.

Kit.

Forgive me. I didn't realize the input and participation of non TotJO members wasn't allowed. When I think of world impacting things like a Temple for JEDI...I tend to think of everyone. And even if we focused on just the TotJO members. I bet the highest population isn't Texas. But apparently I was out of line so....My bad. I shall bow out now. *Bows*

How immature, Kit.

I'd appreciate it, if you're to engage with me, that you come at me with facts. If you want to prove me wrong, then do it. Don't guess. Go find the member map and find out where the most US members are concentrated. That's the only logical way to make this argument.

Admins, we'll take this to PM if Kit wants to continue this conversation.

How is that immature? I did not realize this was an Us vs Them (TotJO vs The rest of the community) conversation and there for I willingly left the thread so that TotJO members can discuss TotJO temples. I do not, wish to discuss this over PM. I have bowed out and this is the last I will speak of it. I only responded now because I feel wronged by your rude implications of immaturity.

https://mapsengine.google.com/map/edit?mid=zWtrf7XVQ7Uc.k7I882CoCsb0

According to the member map, the highest Totjo member state would be Illinois. However, the highest populated area for Totjo according to the map is England. So if you want to go strictly by that map we'd have to build it in England. Lol.

However, this map is extremely outdated. It states that there is only 2 members in Alabama, myself and Desolous, however we have a lot more members in the Alabama Jedi group then just us two.