FAQ and Article Updates

My point was.. perhaps the Temple's view is a very "in and out" thing. And, we just didn't have a good representation of that.

If our goal is to get people away who don't want to be here in the first place (even if they don't know it yet), a strongly worded cautionary remark is better than a subtle one, right?

steamboat28 wrote: and it has the added benefit (unlike Trisskar's otherwise lovely suggestion) of not having to break our own rules about external links to other communities

TOTJO has an external Community Link Page .... Which was what I was referring to.

*Shrugs*

In any case It was just a suggestion. Either way, the new version isn't bad, it just felt a mite dissmissive to me is all. Not a bad thing...I just like to be more "Lovely" as you point out

There really isn't a way to say "If you don't like us, you don't have to be here" without sounding at least a little dismissive. That statement is rather literally dismissing people to leave should they choose.

The new version does it nicer than the old one but I didn't really have a problem with the old one.

The problem you run into with being bluntly dismissive is that it might drive away people who would've otherwise stayed. People come here seeking some measure of peace they think they'll find, and a harshly-worded "git gone'd" isn't necessarily conducive to the kind of environment we would otherwise attempt to uphold.

There's few nice ways of saying "then maybe this isn't for you"...

I don't think that its a bad point...

Simple Oath FAQ :

Old wrote: As of 1st January 2015 the Simple Oath is no longer a requirement for becoming a Jedi at the Temple of the Jedi Order. The Simple Oath can be taken by anyone at any time they please, but is now instead a requirement for reaching the rank of Initiate. Please see here for more details.

Please look here for the wording of the Simple Oath and the conditions under which it must be taken.

Members may wish to take a personal Jedi Oath (formulated in personal words), but a personal oath is not considered a valid and legal oath in the eyes of TotJO. Any pledge no matter in what form is a valid oath, no doubt, but it is not specific, in an official form, to the members who are Jedi here.

If your legal name should change for whatever reason then please inform an Intake Officer.

New wrote: The Simple Oath is a non-mandatory Oath of dedication to the Jedi Path. Any member may take it but they are neither required or obligated to. Taking it is not related to advancement of rank.

Please look here for the wording of the Simple Oath and the conditions under which it must be taken.

Oaths Article

There are two main Oaths within the Order: the Simple Oath and the Solemn Vow. There is also an Oath of Office and an Oath of Confidence.

The Simple Oath is a non-mandatory oath of dedication to the Jedi Path. It binds you to the Jedi Way until you are ready for Knighthood or until you decide to leave. The Simple Oath has previously been a requirement of rank advancement, but this is no longer the case.

The Solemn Vow is taken upon Knighthood and binds you to the Jedi Way for life.

If your legal name should change for whatever reason then please inform an Intake Officer.

Members may wish to take a personal Jedi Oath (formulated in personal words), but a personal oath is not considered a valid and legal oath in the eyes of TotJO. Any pledge no matter in what form is a valid oath, no doubt, but it is not specific, in an official form, to the members who are Jedi here.

Terms of Use and Rules article updated. Now includes Terms of Us e and Copyright notice which is linked to in Library and IP.

https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/faq#Rules

New wrote: 25. What Are The TotJO Website 'Rules'?

We prefer to think of them as guidelines or even just as good manners. These rules cover all Temple areas online.

For detailed explanations of our rules, information regarding terms of use at TotJO and for copyright procedure please see here.

Temple of the Jedi Order Merchandise article updated. Now includes a Shopping on Amazon section so if you want to shop online at Amazon in The US you can help fund the Temple by purchasing almost anything from Amazon, by going through a special link . Good for all those philosophical and spiritual readings, or anything else for that matter!!!

For those who don't have access to the article manager, there is an Article Index which, thanks to Darren, is now linked to in nearly all articles.

An updated version of the FAQ is being worked on and you can now click on the individual sections of the Doctrine as in: Code .

FYI, here is the draft of the new FAQ.

https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/component/content/article/2-uncategorised/2292-faq-draft

M, so far, the new FAQ is looking wonderful! Please keep it up!

If I may communicate something about a particular section - while I do realize that this is just a draft, I noticed when I read "What is Jediism", I found myself having a bit of an objection over the choice of wording, particularly of dividing Jediism up into sides, such as "those who find it religious" and those who call themselves "realists", and then simply listing out some characteristics that when reading it, I feel, don't really dig down enough into a bigger matter (or big picture) of what I've always felt Jediism is.

When I read it, I was actually inspired to form a version of my own (which I ended up posting in another thread), that I don't expect to simply be adopted, but I hope can give an example of what I feel may encompass a deeper and more meaningful part of what matters about being a Jedi.

Proteus wrote: Jediism is known as a religious philosophy (or just philosophy if you'd like), concerned with the fundamental nature of humankind and existence, the connection of all things, a metaphysical presence, which we choose to call The Force. A Jedi is one who resonates with the realization of this universal connection, and in turn, practices a way of life that acknowledges it.

I hope this can help with any ideas for better improving what I'm sure can be agreed is a rather important section of this article!

It has been reported, that some of the links in the library apparently had some viruses and/or malware in them. The Library has been temporarily taken offline while this is looked into. Please remember to keep all your software updated, antivirus installed and computer scanned.

I have everything that was in the library downloaded and saved on my PC at home if anyone needs anything during the interim. So they can contact me and I'll get it to them.

The FAQ update is completed but not yet live. There are a few minor things which need sorting but it should replace the current FAQ sometime next week.

The library is back up but the problem hasn't yet been sorted so be careful.

The FaQ update has gone live.

Please PM me if there's something which needs looking at.

R - take Responsibility for what you say and feel without blaming others
E - use Empathetic listening
S - be Sensitive to differences in communication styles
P - Ponder what you read and feel before you speak
E - Examine your own assumptions and perceptions
C - be Civil in your interactions with others
T - Trust ambiguity, because it can be difficult to communicate meaning

(Adapted from "The Bush Was Blazing But Not Consumed," by Eric H. F. Law)

Has been added to rules article.

If you have a legitimate reason why you can’t use your legal name then please notify the Vice President of Membership Affairs before taking an oath.

Added .

Question on that... what constitutes "a legitimate reason"? For example I might feel not wanting to was a legitimate enough reason...

tzb wrote: Question on that... what constitutes "a legitimate reason"? For example I might feel not wanting to was a legitimate enough reason...

We'll decide on a case-by-case basis.