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02 Nov 2018 03:53 #328715 by Rex
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I'm just going to revive this topic to ask a question:
What do you think should supplement Campbell?

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02 Nov 2018 04:19 #328716 by Br. John
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Rex wrote: I'm just going to revive this topic to ask a question:
What do you think should supplement Campbell?


Probably a multi-vitamin mineral pill depending on your age, health, and the recommendation of your doctor.

Remember, one perfectly correct response is to disagree in part or in full with Mr. Campbell as long as you support your ideas. It's not an indoctrination.

There will be more material, more choices and a revolution and evolution is coming to The IP and to The Order.

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02 Nov 2018 17:34 #328731 by Carlos.Martinez3
So question - who else can you find that explains the myth difrently or in a different light ?

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02 Nov 2018 19:02 #328735 by Rex
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Br. John wrote: revolution and evolution is coming to The IP and to The Order.

Care to unpack that?

Also to clarify, my post wasn't complaining that whoever devised the curriculum is awful for Ludovico techniquing us with Campbell. Just making the (hopefully obvious) point that he isn't an exhaustive approach to understanding myth, and then trying to find what else people have used in their personal journies.

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02 Nov 2018 20:19 #328738 by JamesSand
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Rex wrote: Care to unpack that?


You're more interested in vague allusions that there might be a revised IP published and some sort of (real or nominal) restructure of the Temple brand, than the recommendation that multivitamins be taken as a general supplement for all and sundry?


(an industry as insidious as gift cards, diamonds, or fast food)

For the cost of the multivitamins that millions of otherwise perfectly healthy people are swallowing each day, you could change whatever small part of the world you felt needed it most.
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03 Nov 2018 11:52 - 03 Nov 2018 11:55 #328747 by
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Not to pull this off topic but multi-vitamins are mostly a sham. Not only do most diets(even poor ones) recieve a decent amount of the needed nutrients, but we don't absorb much from the pills anyway. There are ways to optimize the absorbtion but there are risks to taking too much of certain vitamins. Please refer to a nutritionist before adding vitamins to your diet OR removing them.
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13 Nov 2018 02:37 #329086 by Br. John
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This seems to need an explanation.

Vitamins, minerals, and vitamin mineral combinations are also referred to as supplements.

"Probably a multi-vitamin mineral pill depending on your age, health, and the recommendation of your doctor."

That's a pun on the word supplement, and a not that great joke, but it's a joke.

I hope and expect that changes for the better are coming. As far as the board of directors actually taking suggestions and publishing proposals for public comment, that will be after New Years Day 2019.

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13 Nov 2018 05:44 #329101 by Gisteron
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Br. John wrote: As far as the board of directors actually taking suggestions and publishing proposals for public comment, that will be after New Years Day 2019.

Whence the wait?

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13 Nov 2018 06:01 - 13 Nov 2018 06:08 #329104 by
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For those of us on IP 1.0, will our stuff be transferrable into the 2.0 version?

(Tbh what I'm doing is probably IP version 7, but who is really counting?)
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13 Nov 2018 12:17 - 13 Nov 2018 12:18 #329114 by
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I like him. I don't necessarily believe all the same things he does, but he's thought about them and is relatively articulate in explaining his thoughts. Even if I totally disagree with an idea I love the moment of "Oh! Wow! I learned a thing that other people believe and it's fascinating how that belief could inform actions!" I'm a naturally very curious person so for me time/energy gaining knowledge is never wasted.

To me he doesn't come across as arrogant or anything, at least not much. I mean, the only context I've seen him is, is stuff like the assigned materials where he's totally designed to be there star and topic and expert and all that; it's not his fault he's the subject of these studies.

As for his education level, I totally don't care what paperwork he has. I don't believe that someone's level of formal education means anything about what they know or don't know. Some people with high degrees seem to have shared by on a wing and a prayer and some lazy professors, and some of the most rational, deep thinking, informed people I know have no formal education beyond high school.

Maybe it's a sign of my own mental weaknesses or something, but I enjoy the Campbell material.
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