Jedi Academy Online Bookstore - Opie Macleod

Looks like you're r just giving us a heads up... Nothing wrong in that.... I won't buy anything but now we know.

Jestor wrote: Sure we do...

As you can see, its not deleted, and you two are discussing...

Sorry, my online writing skills sometimes make it sound like I'm being forceful when I'm really being calm. haha. *sends calming vibes to Jestor*

WHy link to his "for sale stuff" instead of his "free PDF"?

Because there is all kinds of stuff for free out there on the Jedi path. If he wan't offering things for money, it wouldn't be in the capitalist sector and I wouldn't care.

This is about how we're being represented in the public eye. Imagine that his books become popular like Michaels' books have. You could walk into barnes and noble someday and see it sitting on the shelves!

I'm not trying to be disrespectful of Opie's writings. But, it should be a priority of all communities to be on the look out for material being presented to the public. I've always said: The person who writes the first book about Jedi Realism that gets put in a bookstore will be in command of the Jedi Path FOREVER. Why? Because they'll be on talk shows. They'll end up in a court room for copyright infringement. Their ideas will become the standard.

And no, that might not happen that way. It could, though. And, it's good to watch out for that.

So, does the t-shirts pass some knowledge around too?

They most definitely have shirts with the Jedi Circle information on them.

Did you post anything of ours there?

I wouldn't touch Opie's website with a ten-foot pole.

Did you check with anyone?

I wasn't aware it was advertisement. *hint hint*

Knowing itvwould be questioned and give you a reason to challenge us, yet again?

It's important to challenge the man. I will ALWAYS question and challenge the man. If I didn't, I wouldn't be doing my part as a member of the community.

PLEASE just be glad I'm working on actual issues rather than being a Hannigan and touting my Jedi Skillz.

Lol, don't get pissed, just some questions...

It'll take a lot more than that to get me pissed, dude.

Why the links at all?

To start a discussion on the meaning of public exposure of Jedi information to all of us.

WHy not just a post about Opie stating he wrote something, and let interested parties do their own homework?

I DEFINITELY could have. But, I did not.

PloKoon wrote: Looks like you're r just giving us a heads up... Nothing wrong in that.... I won't buy anything but now we know.

Thanks PloKoon.

Connor Lidell wrote:

Jestor wrote: I've always said: The person who writes the first book about Jedi Realism that gets put in a bookstore will be in command of the Jedi Path FOREVER. Why? Because they'll be on talk shows. They'll end up in a court room for copyright infringement. Their ideas will become the standard.

That is actually a scary thought...

Brenna wrote:

Connor Lidell wrote:

Jestor wrote: I've always said: The person who writes the first book about Jedi Realism that gets put in a bookstore will be in command of the Jedi Path FOREVER. Why? Because they'll be on talk shows. They'll end up in a court room for copyright infringement. Their ideas will become the standard.

That is actually a scary thought...

Yea...

UH, the hoodie guys didn't hurt us...

THis won't either...

We don't care that you talked about it...

We dont like the links...

I know. I know.

We don't do it to just be jerks...

We are the largest and most active Jedi site on the internet...

So, by us posting stuff, it gets more exposure...

And, could appear we are endorsing it...

We are not...

We have not read it...

We are not condeming it either...

We simply don't know it...

And given Opie's distaste for the religious side of the Jedi path..

It seems counterproductive to our mission and ideals...

That's fine, Jestor.

So, would you like to put forth an official cease and desist notice?

I plan on complying with any council decision. As ALWAYS. I can't do that unless I'm asked to something, though.

Like I mentioned earlier. I don't believe this falls under "advertisement". It's my opinion. If I were to make a suggestion to the council on how to handle things like this in the future:

Change the verbage in the FAQ to specify advertisement to include ANY links to offsite material that offers monetary exchange. Unfortunately, that would severely limit any offsite links. I know MANY sites that we link to all the time that accept donations (wikipedia.org being the most prominent, youtube being close behind). I didn't post with any intention to have people buy anything. It's not my website...

Jestor wrote:
And given Opie's distaste for the religious side of the Jedi path..

It seems counterproductive to our mission and ideals...

This is exactly the reason I posted it too, by the way.

After further consideration this does constitute advertising in my opinion and I will remove the links.

I particularly like this statement:
"it should be a priority of all communities to be on the look out for material being presented to the public"

Opie being as "outspoken" as he is against jediism, i think it'd be best if totjo didn't help present his ideas to the public. Or help fund him through t-shirt sales.