Jedi Academy Online Bookstore - Opie Macleod

Because the intention of advertising is to push somebody to buy something. I wasn't doing that.

Also, it's a strange thing... but you don't get to define what Jedi Realism is. That's Ally's invention that some people have adopted as a system to put differing philosophies into boxes so they can be more easily understood. You can decry it all you want, but just as Opie HATES the term Pragmatism, you can't tell Ally to change her terminology. Come up with your own if you'd like to.

I only use it because it works for us who participate actively across the community to understand how to communicate differently to different groups. To "me", personally, I don't care what the labels are. I could say: "TOTJO is jam. IJRS is jelly. FA is jelly with a little jam thrown in..." That's what they are to me. But, I use them with Ally's terms because other people understand them just as I do.

jedi realism and force realism are not ally's terms. force realism is mine, an insult I created 7 or 8 years ago that would cover those who didn't want to be "jedi" anymore... She picked up on it, created a blog or something then claimed it as her trademark lol. I don't know who coined jedi realism, though I'm pretty sure moonshadow @ JRC would know.

hahahah Well, then it's Ally's term after she stole it from you.

she didn't actually register it. I had to bloody check when she made that claim

That's besides the point. Jediism was there first. It emanated from the existing communities of mostly RP with people who wanted to live it. they called it all sorts of things like jedi knightism and whatnot. then census came and a definition other than plain old "jedi" was needed to differentiate form joke jedi. Jediism was born. Some people didnt like jediism and decided to do their own thing but still call themselves jedi. jedi realism was born. And ally had nothing to do with this. She can call opie pragmatist or anything really, opie feels his way is the one and only true jedi way, which he therefore plain calls "jedi". that's humility for you right there. Personally I think plain "opie" is fine, it's not as if he has much relevance.

In the end, though, relevance is only important to those of us trying to make a distinction around here.

The terms don't actually matter, which is what I was trying to say earlier.

Well as I never heard you coin the term before and specifically went in search of the term on the Internet before I used it, the fact that the people whom use the term as I intended it makes the term exactly what I have defined it as. For all intents and purposes, it is a term determined by my parameters. That said, I disagree with Conner on one point, the term isn't mine, it belongs to all of the Force Realist Community (Jedi, Sith, Krath, Baran Do, and the like). Jedi Realism, however, as I recall was coined by Xhaiden.

Also, Ren find me a place where I ever stated that I registered the term. You will not because I never made the claim.

Jedi Pragmatic is not what I call Opie because it was created for him, but rather that he created it to describe his own path. It is only a recent event that he has begun to move towards eliminating the three primary "schools of thought" from his vocabulary. Though....you wouldn't guess such from some of his introductions on JAO where he states they practice Jedi Pragmaticism.

Okay children, calm down...

Yes, Connor has linked something that is for sale on another site. Is that so bad? If I found something awesome and star-wars related, I'd link it here. Ideologies may differ, but the community definitely doesn't need to be any more divided than it already is. My stance on force-tradition-isms (Nightsisters of Dathomirism, coming soon) are known, but I don't have any problem with those who adhere to it.

From what I've heard of Opie, he's a bit of a controversial member of this community. But he's producing works to spread the word. So what if it's not his religion? It doesn't have to be one. Religious devotion to the Force isn't what brought me here, and I won't speak for anyone else but I'm sure there's others who come to the community without really thinking of it as a religion.

It's the inspiration, the messages and the ideals from Star Wars that bring people to this site and others. I'm less interested in magic and armchair philosophy than I am with becoming an all-round awesome person, which this community encourages when it stops squabbling over semantics.

Off on a bit of a tangent there and I do apologise.

Connor linked something related to walking one form of the Jedi Path. Those books can be a learning resource for those interested in learning about the broader community, but may not know what sites are credible and which ones aren't. Better they end up on Opie's site than something run by someone malicious, or someone who's merely roleplaying. There's a few roleplay sites which almost had me fooled for awhile.

Knowing Connor, his only intent was to provide information and awareness on the fact that someone in this community is doing something, even if it is as trivial as making Jedi Academy t-shirts.

In conclusion... what has more relevant value? A Jedi site, or my link below?

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well, to your credit, it IS. A pretty cool link.

Also, Ren find me a place where I ever stated that I registered the term. You will not because I never made the claim.

You did, back on the old JRC forum (where i first met you). And on that site of yours, with a big "tm". But that doesn't matter. The term is only ever used by yourself and doesn't mean much, as a quick search will show.

Xhaiden didn't coin jedi realism. he arrived in 2005, and was a Jediist. Jedi realism already existed back then. It was very probably coined @ jedi academy. (or by the people who created it)