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23 Nov 2015 21:02 #210001 by Yugen
Wich of the fictional classes of jedi do you prefer?
If i haven't nemtioned them in the title please add them below :)
I belive i would probably be a sentinel

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23 Nov 2015 21:37 #210018 by Edan
Lots of people like the idea of Sentinel I think... but now I've changed a bit over the last couple of years so if we were the fictional Jedi I'd probably be a consular..

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23 Nov 2015 21:57 #210025 by
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Bareus wrote: Wich of the fictional classes of jedi do you prefer?
If i haven't nemtioned them in the title please add them below :)
I belive i would probably be a sentinel


Technically I really don't know much about them, so I can't say.

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23 Nov 2015 22:02 #210029 by
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I am a mystic. I do not think I fit into any of the Jedi types from the fiction.

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23 Nov 2015 22:06 #210030 by
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After doing research on it, I suppose if I had to pigeonhole myself into an rpg archetype it would be consular merely by default; honestly I find such "character-class" thinking is far too simplistic to fit my real-world spirituality into.

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24 Nov 2015 00:56 #210050 by
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I am most definitely a Consular.

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24 Nov 2015 01:26 #210053 by Adder
Only the Council can tell you that :ohmy: :lol:

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24 Nov 2015 02:12 #210055 by
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I'm a fan of the consular, and to delve just slightly deeper, the Shadow subdivision. Basically, people who observe and only interfere indirectly if necessary, only directly intervening in the event of an emergency. I prefer to let things play out, as I believe the best lessons are self taught.

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24 Nov 2015 02:13 #210056 by OB1Shinobi
im just going to make something up and if anyone can get anything out of it thats great, if not, well im pursuing a degree but it isnt to be an author lol

i see a consulate as being a diplomat - which i think is in accord with the game

but as INSTRUMENTS OF PEACE i would encourage all jedi to consider themselves as diplomats in our social spheres

what is diplomacy but the ability to find the balance point between opposing or conflicting views and interests?

diplomats negotiate peace between vying factions - ive learned personally that i do well to consider myself a diplomat FOR myself, whose responsibility it is to negotiate healthy and generally peaceful relations between me and the rest of the world

a guardian im guessing would irl be something like a police officer or soldier - basically someone who takes responsibility for gaurding the just, the innocent, and the weak, from the abuses of the violent and the vicious

this would also extend to those who train for violence and who train others for it

i dont see this as a role every jedi should aspire to

it is a very important in society, and the institutions which fill it definitely "need" jedi influence, arguably more than most others, and if this is something you feel suited for then follow your calling, you are needed

but, here in the west we have this idea, socially, that heroes have to be violent and good at violence, and this idea is wrong, flat out, and it has lead many good people into bad situations

you dont have to be violent to be empowered or to be a leader or a hero or a jedi, you have to be COMMITED

and willing to WORK

my encouragement would be to follow what you know you are good at, or what you would be most effective at, without regard to if it is "good" enough

sentinel is where i guess i diverge totally from the fiction and just invent my own class

to me sentinal evokes the idea of someone who observes and learns and researches the movements and activities of the world. a sentinel is a kind of unbiased journalist whose mission is to BE INFORMED and when necessary to inform others

basically its a sentinals job to know whats going on and notice whats brewing

i consider myself most closely aligned with the sentinel class, though i also work to develop the skills of the gaurdian and the diplomat

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24 Nov 2015 02:13 #210057 by RyuJin
i don't really fit into one specific archetype....i'm fluid enough to go from one to another as needed...

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24 Nov 2015 04:47 #210067 by
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I'm a Consular (Sage) on the SWTOR game (When I bother to play for the story).

I'm definitely more of a mystical/peace orientated person, than a gladiator/guardian type.

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24 Nov 2015 04:56 - 24 Nov 2015 04:57 #210068 by Adder
Yea I think a hybrid of Sage, Healer and Seer would be what might be called a Mystic, and I tend to view that as the foundation for expression of it against risk (... like a tetrahedron) which I classify as either Guardian or Sentinel depending in the nature of the application
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Yea why cannot Jediism have its own structures based on fiction a little bit :P

This pic would be so apt right now if it were not for the EU's fascination with pyramids instead of tetrahedrons (platonic solid FTW)

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24 Nov 2015 05:02 #210069 by
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My desire from day one since reading the Jedi path is to be a Jedi Investigator which is a sub branch of the Sentinel. Have even started a study guide to someday pass the state private investigator exam to become licensed. Always liked the idea of chasing down leads and solving the case.

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24 Nov 2015 12:42 #210083 by
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I'm 99% sure that if I become a Jedi Master my role would be a Consular. Basiclly because my father is a Consular in RL haha

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26 Nov 2015 12:39 #210456 by Yugen
I would see myself actually as kind of a hybrid between sentinel and consular, maybe even lorekeeper.

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26 Nov 2015 13:50 #210472 by
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In TOR, I chose Consular-Shadow. I liked the idea of being a peace keeper, but also the idea of being invisible, or a type of spy-Jedi.

In real life, I couldn't choose one, honestly.

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26 Nov 2015 18:23 #210532 by
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I would fall under a Consular and Sentinel hybrid. Being a fusion of a Jedi healer/seer and a Jedi shadow/watchman.

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26 Nov 2015 19:04 #210537 by Yugen

Reiji wrote: I would fall under a Consular and Sentinel hybrid. Being a fusion of a Jedi healer/seer and a Jedi shadow/watchman.


I agree with you

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15 Dec 2015 03:28 #213406 by
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I think I would fall mostly under Sentinel, with a dash of Consular in the form of a lorekeeper/seer.

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15 Dec 2015 04:06 #213413 by
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The following copyrighted paragraphs are from a therapeutic activity that I developed when I was a practicing psychotherapist entitled: The Archetype Council. Twenty-four archetypes compose an advisory council in a role play scenario designed to assist the client/patient in decision-making. One of the archetypes is the guardian (protector, warrior).

The guardian’s primary task is to defend, for she or he is neither assassin or mercenary, but rather protector. Warriors are guardians par excellence. The true warrior seeks not the battle to fulfill their destiny, but is vigilant and prepared when the battle inevitably arrives.

This archetype needs to identify what needs protection, for preparedness is the essence of the warrior. The guardian is prepared and ready for defense when conflict comes. This councilor advises readiness. Readiness requires remaining alert without debilitating preoccupation or obsession. It is madness to see enemies everywhere and to live in a constant state of fearful preparedness. The guardian is most vigilant when on duty.

There are a variety of questions that I would pose to my client/patient, for example, in what ways can preparedness be enhanced?

Thought for consideration: the warrior is prepared in the midst of life lived as usual. The presence of other guardians to share the burdens makes the warrior’s life a fellowship. Burden sharing makes the warrior effective, for no one can be expert in all forms of defense, or can be both watcher and worker. Some warriors are solitary figures, but most often, they are part of a larger group. Often they are part of a team, with strong camaraderie, especially if they have experienced battle together. Sometimes they assemble only when called, and a particular threat has been identified.

Knowledge of one’s own weaknesses/vulnerabilities enhances the appreciation of where an attack might be most successful make this councilor's self-honesty a remarkably strong attribute. Weakness and fear are inevitably part of the warrior’s life, and they seek not to ignore them, but to learn to live with them, and overcome them through practice and discipline. When the battle begins they are ready - performing each task automatically as practiced, until the enemy is defeated or they are dead.

Identify weaknesses and devise a plan to minimize them: The tools of the guardian’s trade can have either an everyday purpose, like the walking stick which becomes the pike; or can have a dual purpose, like the bow which can be used for hunting or for battle; or can have a single purpose dedicated to fighting, like the sword. Singleness of purpose makes some tools weapons and nothing else. So it is with the warrior, she or he can remain solitary or can be combined with other councilors.

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