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Jedi First Responder – First Aid for the Jedi bystander
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04 Dec 2012 15:38 #82466
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I think this is a great thread with a lot of really good information.
Thank you for starting it.
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06 Dec 2012 19:51 #82808
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I agree with you very much! In the military I was a Combat Lifesaver (CLS) where I would assist medics or help the person as much as I can until proper medics arrived. I was also a first responder and had to be certified because being a cop met that you were almost always the first one on scene. I work for a major security firm right now and we are all certified in ADD/CPR and basic first aid. I would be happy to send a copy of my books to the Masters so they can download it (with proper permission) and present itto the other Jedi. But as it was stated please take the time and go to a CPR class and get certified. The cost is minimal and you can save a life, maybe even your own.
On a personal note My first born son was brought home on Nov 1, 2008 and he was only home for about 9 hours when he quit breathing. My wife in shock and panic (like anyone else in that situation) could not do anything and I did infant cpr on my son until the paramedics arrived (25 minutes later and we only live 5 blocks from the hospital) but they got our son to breathe again but only if he was on a machine. So two days later on November 5, 2008 we decided to pull the plug and hold our son in our arms while he died. Point of the story is if you can be certified Do it!!!!!!!!! you never know who you will save or use it. Because I learned it we at least got to have our son with us for an extra couple of days and that was worth it.
On a personal note My first born son was brought home on Nov 1, 2008 and he was only home for about 9 hours when he quit breathing. My wife in shock and panic (like anyone else in that situation) could not do anything and I did infant cpr on my son until the paramedics arrived (25 minutes later and we only live 5 blocks from the hospital) but they got our son to breathe again but only if he was on a machine. So two days later on November 5, 2008 we decided to pull the plug and hold our son in our arms while he died. Point of the story is if you can be certified Do it!!!!!!!!! you never know who you will save or use it. Because I learned it we at least got to have our son with us for an extra couple of days and that was worth it.
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25 Feb 2013 01:30 - 25 Feb 2013 01:32 #95678
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Tell me and I forget, teach me and I may remember, involve me and I learn. Benjamin Franklin
Let the improvement of yourself keep you so busy that you have no time to criticize others. Roy T. Bennett, The Light in the Heart
Participated in the making of the book, “The Jedi Compass”with 2 articles.
For today I serve so that tomorrow I may serve again. One step, One Vow, One Moment... Too always remember it is not about me... Master Neaj Pa Bol
Faith is daring the soul to go beyond what the eyes can see...
Faith is a journey, not a guilt trip...
Quiet your emotions to find inner peace. Learn from ignorance to foster knowledge.
Enjoy your passions but be immersed in serenity. Understand the chaos to see the harmony.
Life and death is to be one with the Force.
Apprentice's: Master Zanthan Storm, Jaxxy (Master Rachat et Espoir (Bridgette Barker))
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This is a great subject. But I do stress one thing for all to remember. Being a retired Nurse and my Daughter an EMT, and others in the medical/Fire/Police fields...
Make sure to check your state or local areas for what is Called "The Good Samaritan" Laws.
Here in the U.S., states have varying degrees of protection for "Joe Blow" helping in an emergency. There is Laws protecting you of being sued for injury. I don't know about the UK and Europe, etc., but there are folks here that are sue happy and there is protection out there legally.
First Aid, First Responders, CPR courses, etc. I do recommend to anyone.... Online courses are available for CPR. Looking for other courses recommended...
Make sure to check your state or local areas for what is Called "The Good Samaritan" Laws.
Here in the U.S., states have varying degrees of protection for "Joe Blow" helping in an emergency. There is Laws protecting you of being sued for injury. I don't know about the UK and Europe, etc., but there are folks here that are sue happy and there is protection out there legally.
First Aid, First Responders, CPR courses, etc. I do recommend to anyone.... Online courses are available for CPR. Looking for other courses recommended...
Tell me and I forget, teach me and I may remember, involve me and I learn. Benjamin Franklin
Let the improvement of yourself keep you so busy that you have no time to criticize others. Roy T. Bennett, The Light in the Heart
Participated in the making of the book, “The Jedi Compass”with 2 articles.
For today I serve so that tomorrow I may serve again. One step, One Vow, One Moment... Too always remember it is not about me... Master Neaj Pa Bol
Faith is daring the soul to go beyond what the eyes can see...
Faith is a journey, not a guilt trip...
Quiet your emotions to find inner peace. Learn from ignorance to foster knowledge.
Enjoy your passions but be immersed in serenity. Understand the chaos to see the harmony.
Life and death is to be one with the Force.
Apprentice's: Master Zanthan Storm, Jaxxy (Master Rachat et Espoir (Bridgette Barker))
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25 Feb 2013 18:27 #95728
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Get trained it's a great confidence builder knowing how to act in an emergence. Not just what you ca do medically for a victim but emotionally as well. The vast amount of First Aid I've given has been minor, thank the powers.
Last time there was a car crash right in front of me in a busy intersection. A lady T Boned a left turning car. One guy was Ok but shook up. Not bad since his car was knocked 180 degrees around.
In the other car was an older lady, whose air bag deploied, who was in shock and complaining of cheast pains. O Boy! She was talking, breathing and had a pulse. All I had to do wass talk to her, comfort her and hold he hand. A RN stopped her car and took over until the ambulance arrived. My job was done. I drove home.
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Neaj Pa Bol wrote: First Aid, First Responders, CPR courses, etc. I do recommend to anyone.... Online courses are available for CPR. Looking for other courses recommended...
Get trained it's a great confidence builder knowing how to act in an emergence. Not just what you ca do medically for a victim but emotionally as well. The vast amount of First Aid I've given has been minor, thank the powers.
Last time there was a car crash right in front of me in a busy intersection. A lady T Boned a left turning car. One guy was Ok but shook up. Not bad since his car was knocked 180 degrees around.
In the other car was an older lady, whose air bag deploied, who was in shock and complaining of cheast pains. O Boy! She was talking, breathing and had a pulse. All I had to do wass talk to her, comfort her and hold he hand. A RN stopped her car and took over until the ambulance arrived. My job was done. I drove home.
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25 Feb 2013 19:12 #95738
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Get trained!
As a Medical Assistant, First Repsonder, and former American Heart Association trainer (AED / CPR / F-A), I obviously have to go along with everyone promoting getting trained in basic first aid. Keep a basic First Aid kit in your car at all times (5$ at your cheap-o stores). And if you want to know about the "Good Samaritan" laws in any of the 50 states, I do have copies of the laws for all 50 (I was required to hand them out in each class); feel free to ask me for a copy.
To clarify for those not familiar: a "Good Samaritan" was the N/T biblical story of someone who came to the aid of a stranger in distress (there were other circumstances that made this story significant but I'll spare you the cruft). The term generically means: one who helps other just to be helpful (while not looking for reward).
In the USA, anyone who =IS TRAINED= in F-A and CPR/AED can NOT be sued for performance of these skills IFF (if and only if): (1) they completed a[ny] training course, (2) stayed within the scope of their training [didn't try something they "saw on TV once"], and (3) were in the intent of rendering legitimate aid to the victim. There are small variances from state-to-state; generally, "untrained" persons are not protected legally [again, some states allow variances]. As instructors, we are subject to be called into court to defend any suit. In my 5 years of training others, only 1 case actually got filed; one of my trainees did CPR in a work place, broke the person's rib, but the victim survived. Once I testified (in deposition) that, that is quite normal; we teach "life over limb," the suit was tossed. (That's why our names are on the back of your little F-A / CPR card.) As of 2006 [when I stopped monitoring it], not one suit ever survived through the court system. According to friends who still teaches, that record remains in effect (Nov 2012).
In the USA, please contact:
American Heart Association
http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/CPRAndECC/FindaCourse/Find-a-Course_UCM_303220_SubHomePage.jsp
or the American Red Cross
http://www.redcross.org/templates/render/renderCanonical.jsp?pageCan=/take-a-class/program-highlights/cpr-first-aid
Get trained!
As a Medical Assistant, First Repsonder, and former American Heart Association trainer (AED / CPR / F-A), I obviously have to go along with everyone promoting getting trained in basic first aid. Keep a basic First Aid kit in your car at all times (5$ at your cheap-o stores). And if you want to know about the "Good Samaritan" laws in any of the 50 states, I do have copies of the laws for all 50 (I was required to hand them out in each class); feel free to ask me for a copy.
To clarify for those not familiar: a "Good Samaritan" was the N/T biblical story of someone who came to the aid of a stranger in distress (there were other circumstances that made this story significant but I'll spare you the cruft). The term generically means: one who helps other just to be helpful (while not looking for reward).
In the USA, anyone who =IS TRAINED= in F-A and CPR/AED can NOT be sued for performance of these skills IFF (if and only if): (1) they completed a[ny] training course, (2) stayed within the scope of their training [didn't try something they "saw on TV once"], and (3) were in the intent of rendering legitimate aid to the victim. There are small variances from state-to-state; generally, "untrained" persons are not protected legally [again, some states allow variances]. As instructors, we are subject to be called into court to defend any suit. In my 5 years of training others, only 1 case actually got filed; one of my trainees did CPR in a work place, broke the person's rib, but the victim survived. Once I testified (in deposition) that, that is quite normal; we teach "life over limb," the suit was tossed. (That's why our names are on the back of your little F-A / CPR card.) As of 2006 [when I stopped monitoring it], not one suit ever survived through the court system. According to friends who still teaches, that record remains in effect (Nov 2012).
In the USA, please contact:
American Heart Association
http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/CPRAndECC/FindaCourse/Find-a-Course_UCM_303220_SubHomePage.jsp
or the American Red Cross
http://www.redcross.org/templates/render/renderCanonical.jsp?pageCan=/take-a-class/program-highlights/cpr-first-aid
Get trained!
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26 Feb 2013 02:41 - 26 Feb 2013 02:56 #95781
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It is very important to be trained in CPR and First Aid. Please refer to the first posts in this thread. Read the disclaimer and other info.
http://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/Health-physical-fitness-and-wellbeing/62020-Jedi-First-Responder-%E2%80%93-First-Aid-for-the-Jedi-bystander?limit=10&start=20#62020
Below are a few websites that I would recommend for use. Please consult a doctor for any issue that you cannot handle with a band-aid. <--(disclaimer)
Symptom Checkers
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/symptom-checker/DS00671
http://symptoms.webmd.com/#./introView
First Aid Sites
http://kidshealth.org/parent/firstaid_safe/
http://firstaid.webmd.com/
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/firstaid.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/treatments/first_aid/index.shtml
http://www.epilepsyfoundation.org/aboutepilepsy/firstaid/index.cfm
Mobile Apps
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.usa.health.ifitness.firstaid&hl=en
http://www.redcross.org/mobile-apps/first-aid-app
http://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/Health-physical-fitness-and-wellbeing/62020-Jedi-First-Responder-%E2%80%93-First-Aid-for-the-Jedi-bystander?limit=10&start=20#62020
Below are a few websites that I would recommend for use. Please consult a doctor for any issue that you cannot handle with a band-aid. <--(disclaimer)
Symptom Checkers
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/symptom-checker/DS00671
http://symptoms.webmd.com/#./introView
First Aid Sites
http://kidshealth.org/parent/firstaid_safe/
http://firstaid.webmd.com/
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/firstaid.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/treatments/first_aid/index.shtml
http://www.epilepsyfoundation.org/aboutepilepsy/firstaid/index.cfm
Mobile Apps
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.usa.health.ifitness.firstaid&hl=en
http://www.redcross.org/mobile-apps/first-aid-app
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With permission from Jestor, I am going to make this thread sticky.
I believe that every one of us must be ready, willing and able, to help others in their time of need. If this thread can give you the help or inspiration, to get training in first aid, I would be very grateful.
Remember...
The Life You Save May Be Your Families!
I believe that every one of us must be ready, willing and able, to help others in their time of need. If this thread can give you the help or inspiration, to get training in first aid, I would be very grateful.
Remember...
The Life You Save May Be Your Families!
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