New Degree System of Jediism?

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31 Jan 2016 20:03 - 31 Jan 2016 20:06 #225552 by
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There's 4, so even you are evidently confused ;)

Again... you have proposed a new system and describe no actual benefits for adopting it, so far as I can see. That things "should be recognised" in the scheme... as I say, they already are.

Finally the H.Div recognising one as "Jedi"... all that is required to be recognised as Jedi is to believe that which is in our Doctrine.
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31 Jan 2016 20:08 #225553 by
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tzb wrote: There's 4, so even you are evidently confused ;)

Again... you have proposed a new system and describe no actual benefits for adopting it, so far as I can see. That things "should be recognised" in the scheme... as I say, they already are.


The benefits, ( read edit I made for you, in my first reaction :blush: ) Equality, rank system have different levels of understanding. But the div. system makes it like there are globally 3 ways of degree. I find it highly confusing that the temple ranks are so many, but with only 3/4 div. What is the purpose or logical behind that? :)

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31 Jan 2016 20:08 #225554 by Ben
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At the moment there's really only two though...

D.Div has more or less been scrapped, and M.Div has been suspended for a long time now ;)




I find the system that we are left with very simple and non-confusing:

Knighthood = half a degree (A.Div)
Senior Knight(hood) = a whole degree (B.Div)

Pretty straightforward, right? :)

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31 Jan 2016 20:12 #225555 by
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V-Tog wrote: At the moment there's really only two though...

D.Div has more or less been scrapped, and M.Div has been suspended for a long time now ;)




I find the system that we are left with very simple and non-confusing:

Knighthood = half a degree (A.Div)
Senior Knight(hood) = a whole degree (B.Div)

Pretty straightforward, right? :)


Mm.. I made this split of after the faq post.. :) I can not find something about a half degree in the faq? It confuses me. :dry: Tried to bring up a old idea, but that seems to be not so good of me.. :unsure:

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31 Jan 2016 20:16 #225556 by
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Having more degrees would complicate matters, they seem superfluous whereas the ones we have now (of which there are two) actually correspond to significant steps in your learning.

tzb wrote: Your depiction of the current scheme also misses the M.Div, Master of Divinity, gained with Senior Knighthood and completion of Seminary.


Regarding M.Div and D.Div, neither are actually a thing anymore, because we don't have any policies designed to actually grant them. The reason the D.Div is there is because I chose to leave mention of it, and when it was used it was used honorifically. The post-Knighthood part of the degree needs to be changed, if it includes degrees beyond B.Div we'll just have to wait and see.

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31 Jan 2016 20:18 #225557 by
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Ok. The Details of Degree Scheme post pinned in the forum still lists them, I wasn't aware they'd been scrapped. My bad :)

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31 Jan 2016 20:19 - 31 Jan 2016 20:20 #225558 by
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Akkarin wrote: Having more degrees would complicate matters, they seem superfluous whereas the ones we have now (of which there are two) actually correspond to significant steps in your learning.

tzb wrote: Your depiction of the current scheme also misses the M.Div, Master of Divinity, gained with Senior Knighthood and completion of Seminary.


Regarding M.Div and D.Div, neither are actually a thing anymore, because we don't have any policies designed to actually grant them. The reason the D.Div is there is because I chose to leave mention of it, and when it was used it was used honorifically. The post-Knighthood part of the degree needs to be changed, if it includes degrees beyond B.Div we'll just have to wait and see.


Guess that, your words answer my question :blush:
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31 Jan 2016 20:26 #225560 by Ben
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Aqua wrote: I can not find something about a half degree in the faq? It confuses me. :dry:



We try not to talk about the nitty-gritty of this stuff too much, but the B.Div is a Bachelors degree and therefore is equivalent to what is commonly thought of as 'a degree' - i.e. when you go to university in the traditional sense, you graduate with a Bachelors degree (at least, in the UK we call it that!).

Here at TOTJO that degree (the B.Div) is worth 400 points/credits. All of the work that you complete over your entire time here contributes to these 400 points.

At the point of becoming a Knight you would have earned 200 points/credits so far, which is the requirement for the A.Div - so you can see that numerically speaking, it is quite literally half of the full B.Div degree.

Does that help?

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31 Jan 2016 20:29 #225561 by
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V-Tog wrote:

Aqua wrote: I can not find something about a half degree in the faq? It confuses me. :dry:



We try not to talk about the nitty-gritty of this stuff too much, but the B.Div is a Bachelors degree and therefore is equivalent to what is commonly thought of as 'a degree' - i.e. when you go to university in the traditional sense, you graduate with a Bachelors degree (at least, in the UK we call it that!).

Here at TOTJO that degree (the B.Div) is worth 400 points/credits. All of the work that you complete over your entire time here contributes to these 400 points.

At the point of becoming a Knight you would have earned 200 points/credits so far, which is the requirement for the A.Div - so you can see that numerically speaking, it is quite literally half of the full B.Div degree.

Does that help?


Ehm, you do give me more questions. Sorry :blush: But I have never heard of the point system, something for FAQ maybe? :unsure:

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31 Jan 2016 20:37 #225563 by
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tzb wrote: Ok. The Details of Degree Scheme post pinned in the forum still lists them, I wasn't aware they'd been scrapped. My bad :)


Fixed. Personally I always forget about the forum posts, I don't really use them, because I find articles better lol. So if anyone finds posts containing stuff which seems out of date please let me know because the information is most likely wrong.

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