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Creationism
I do like to open people's eyes, and I do like talking about different points of views with people, but in the end, it always leads to arguing and people acting like children. I've lost count of the debates I have literally walked away from because someone started raising their voice or name calling or belittling another person. I have ZERO respect for people who take that rout, and want nothing to do with them until I see them grow up and not take that rout. I don't tolerate it for my beliefs, and I don't tolerate it for another persons belief, where I agree with them or not. I will stand up for someone whether I agree with them or not...this includes radical creationists.
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I have a number of really good friends who are christian, they chose that path for themselves it wasn't something they were forced into because of complete intolerance from family or local society. They live happy, good lives and are willing to discuss at length their belief system so far as to admitting that their beliefs might be wrong (they still believe, but they are very open minded when it comes to their beliefs). As far as I can see people who are completely close-minded are one of the biggest problems today and have been the cause for much of the suffering throughout history (not just religious zealots mind you, anyone with a completely closed mind).
I agree personally with most of what Hadi (and pretty much everyone here) has said so far! I agree that we're all just human and should get along... that's one of the reasons Jedi seem like such a great idea, we're the mediators, the peacemakers, the people who don't pick a side but choose to stand in the middle and help both sides see common ground. Unfortunately there are some people out there who are unwilling to even consider anything outside of their beliefs and are willing to go to any extremes to convert other to their beliefs and attack those who do not believe in what they believe. It's my greatest hope therefor that somehow a mass change in consciousness will someday take place, after which any belief that seeks to divide humanity will simply cease to hold any potency.
We are all the sum of our tears. Too little and the ground is not fertile, and nothing can grow there. Too much, the best of us is washed away. -- J. Michael Straczynski, Babylon 5
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I've never met a Creationist who did not frame this as an argument for believing in God or not. As though to believe in evolution was the same as not believing in God.
This is refreshing: http://ThankGodForEvolution.com/
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Br. John wrote: How can the creationist issue be separated from the Bible Literalist issue? Genesis gives two different accounts of creation and they contradict each other. Later in the Old Testament The Bible clearly states that Earth is fixed and unmovable with four corners. I'm sure you all know what happened to Galileo for saying Earth was not the center of the universe.
I've never met a Creationist who did not frame this as an argument for believing in God or not. As though to believe in evolution was the same as not believing in God.
This is refreshing: http://ThankGodForEvolution.com/
Haha! When someone tries to justify Genesis being truth, I bust out the "God created the earth" first (in darkness) and then he made day and night, when we now know factually that it requires a star to create a planet, and therefore the earth couldn't have been created before day and night.
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Though, like a hollywood movie done today about a real world event, for it to be popular it has to be 90% rubbish to keep people's attention and to use contexts relevant to the lives of the readers.
So, you're saying christianity is a crappy religion because it is essentially based on some popular hollywood movie?
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The better thing to do would be to travel back in time to know for sure (with dr. Emmett Brown's machine or to pass arround the the sun in hyperexponential speed or with Superman spinning arround the Earth at light speed? lol). Till there, to live in harmony is the better thing to do. Because we can't proove any thories (without any doubts and with a absolute certitude), such "fights" are trivial and futile.
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However, like many have already posed in this thread, your belief is your belief. You don't have to side with science, but to me it does seem more logical. I wont hound you for opposing to the math.

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