Past lives, seriously?

ive heard quite a time people mentioning this subject, i wonder, are they actually serious?

whatever, but i wonder whats the purpose of coming to believe such things, does it actually help the individual to come in terms with their intuition/imagination or are these people, simply as that, messed up, that these beliefs arent any beneficial to them?

i dont know, i wish i knew more on the subject which is why im writing here if you know any better, so do you?

Renown American Psycic, Silvia Browne, says we are here in each life to learn a lesson....

If you fail to learn the lesson you set for yourself, you have yourself repeat the lesson...

If you learn the lesson, you set a new lesson and work on it....

Until you feel you have learned all there is to learn...

And, while we are all learning our lessons, we are helping others learn theirs...

Any validity?

I don't know, but, it sounds like a good theory....

"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"
-William Shakespeare

“There is surely nothing other than the single purpose of the present moment. A man's whole life is a succession of moment after moment. There will be nothing else to do, and nothing else to pursue. Live being true to the single purpose of the moment.”
“It is said that what is called "the spirit of an age" is something to which one cannot return. That this spirit gradually dissipates is due to the world's coming to an end. For this reason, although one would like to change today's world back to the spirit of one hundred years or more ago, it cannot be done. Thus it is important to make the best out of every generation.”
― Yamamoto Tsunetomo

Two different people from two different times and they both have a similar message.

There is something to be gained at studying the many different possibilities which exist, but we should not let them create a loss in the moment. What good would it be to know everything about something if it takes us away from where we are?

Rather reincarnation exists or no t is not for me to say… that is for the individual to decide for themselves. And it is good to have a understanding of where we come form! But not at the expense of what is currently going on. Life will give you the opportunity to learn what you need; all you have to do is be willing to learn it.

Look at life and the world around you. See if you find clues or evidence to help you decide whether it exists or not. Think on those clues and then decide on your own whether you believe it or not.

Just my two cents

I don't know anything about my past lives. I've forgotten them or they never happened. If anyone has met me in the past send me a PM.

I do think there is a lot of truth in this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungian_archetypes

Weither it's DNA based or a collective unconscious (or both) is subject of much discussion and proabably never will be setteled. As usual with force things you feel something is true/false or you accept it on faith.

Wescli Wardest wrote: Two different people from two different times and they both have a similar message.

i do think pschologicaly speaking, theres only a bit over twelve thousand variations of how humans can be from within, however even if there are about 600000? people exactly insides like me even now, that they are me. inherently we are still separate material even if our genetics chose exactly same imprints.

i think past lives theory is just mystical hype, just hype over what gives inspiration for imagination people otherwise would refuse.

@rick the great

what has archetypes to do with this?

yes i do think unconscious is superior to the conscious and therefore i think the whole idea of "collective unconscious" is just a primitive way to explaing how unconscious knows more about other people than you, because uncosncious has access to all the data you have unconsciously gathered of the others. this data is accessible to conscious mind too but requires alot of experience with ineracting the unconscious. although i think it can come in bursts too, since the link to unconscious mind weavers around depending on your "spiritual" growth.

however i dont think there is any super naturality or pre-scripted collective unconsciousnesses to the way our unconscious mind works. i think it developes by experience, separately from the conscious realm while still connected and dominating it too.

if it was pre-scripted, then why could people go crazy? i think its experience based and thats why our unconscious mind can turn against us if we get too much of negative experiences, which then in turn corrupt our guiding force, the unconscious.

which is the dark side, in our jedi terminology.

Truth can be found in many things.

I normally get annoyed when someone posts something vague in a thread I have posted but that's just me. So I'll leave you with this vague quote.

50 Years ago smoking was considered good, 50 years later it is considered highly dangerous.

too vague...archetypes!

In the sense that most people think of reincarnation, I don't follow it. I ponder it in a different sense though.

Following Alan Watts, in the case that the "I" that I think is me, is not me, but the whole of the universe pretending to be me, then all that is happening is - I am (as you are), not me, not you, but the player just pretending to be each of us, and the process of "reincarnation" is not an individual ego being re-positioned into a new body, but simply the universe ending the thought of me, and simply beginning a new thought of somebody else.

if it was pre-scripted, then why could people go crazy? i think its experience based and thats why our unconscious mind can turn against us if we get too much of negative experiences, which then in turn corrupt our guiding force, the unconscious.

I said people play parts in our stiries as well...

Maybe their story is to know the truth, and not be able to tell us...

Maybe, it is to teach us...

Who can say?

There is the fine line between genius snd insane...

Desolous wrote: too vague...archetypes!

Sorry about that. Some believe archetypes come from our past lives. If not from our own individual past lives then from source of knowledge from a collective past lives.

As long as we pass on our life forces we pass on, like a candle flame from one candle to another, this knowledge via the living force unique to our DNA, human beings, but not limited by DNA just as our living force is not limited by DNA.

better?

Jestor wrote: I said people play parts in our stiries as well...

Maybe their story is to know the truth, and not be able to tell us...

Maybe, it is to teach us...

Who can say?

There is the fine line between genius snd insane...

I think I fall nearer the later of that one Jestor!

hahahahhahahha :woohoo:

Either I've got a wierd imagination or my earliest memory is the moment before I was born
:blink:

So I've no idea on this topic, but I do approach it by looking at things which cause unexplained emotional responses, and then try to link them together to get an idea what might be going on. It's a risky approach though perhaps, because those very same feelings might be some subconscious sensitivity to other things around me, otherwise unseen, like the Force etc.

i have had the same experience Adder.

you can believe in whatever you like, the truth is, there is no way to test it an prove it, like many other things.

For some people the theory of re-born, and re-born, many times as needed till something is accomplished, its their truth, and they live in that way...
for others, it's a matter of one life, you die, and go to heaven/hell, and that's all

and, also others believe, we are energy, and this, never die/disappear, it just transform ... in what, who, or ??? who really knows...

faith
believe.

Faith and believe. If it works for you it works. What ever gives you strength an feeds your spirit.

Buddhism is big on reincarnation. It's a metaphor for how your deeds go on long after you've died.

The man that trained me to use the katana believed that the universe chose certain souls to be reborn because they had something the universe needed....he often referred to them as "old souls"....he called me one...because of the way I think and act ...

I think it's a possibility that some are reborn and some are not...my reasoning is because of prodigies....I've seen some people with innate talent/ abilities far beyond their own understanding ...talent/abilities that take others a lifetime to master they have mastery of without ever being taught....and at this very moment I'm having a serious case of deja vu....

ive been told the same