The Lady of the Night and Jediism.

Can one have both? I am devoted to her, but I am because I want to learn more. Advice please.

I don't know "lady of the night", but nothing here says you can't do both....

Whatever that means...:lol:...

Are you talking about a prostitute or a mistress?

One is illegal while another is none of my business.

Gengar, are you talking about Lilith?

Message me if you want and we can figure it out

Would that be the same Lilith from the Talmud? The supposed first wife of Adam, exiled from the Garden of Eden for being too sexually domineering, and bearing hundreds of children per day? Iiiiiiinteresting...

Tarran wrote: Would that be the same Lilith from the Talmud? The supposed first wife of Adam, exiled from the Garden of Eden for being too sexually domineering, and bearing hundreds of children per day? Iiiiiiinteresting...

To hear some tell it, she was kicked out because she wanted equality. :whistle:

Tarran wrote: Would that be the same Lilith from the Talmud? The supposed first wife of Adam, exiled from the Garden of Eden for being too sexually domineering, and bearing hundreds of children per day? Iiiiiiinteresting...

You laugh but I know someone who has an altar to Lilith, as I bought him the statue that's on it.

Lilith was supposed to have many children with Sammael, after she left Eden.

Lilith has a strong influence in Luciferianism, which I myself have followed for quite a few years now. We don't know if he's referring to Lilith or not, many pagans have a generalized idea of the Goddess and refer to her as such, let's not jump to conclusions and be mindful of our replies...

Way off track. No im not talking about lillith. Santa Muerte is the lady I am referring to.

They missed the mark because your desription was vague and generalized, stating that from the beginning would have cleared up a lot of things...

I see nothing in Jediism that would pose a problem in regards to your beliefs...

Ah my apologies. I was half asleep. Thank you.

Nuestra Señora de la Santa Muerte or, colloquially, Santa Muerte (Spanish for Our Lady of the Holy Death), is a female folk saint venerated primarily in Mexico and the Southwestern United States. A personification of death, she is associated with healing, protection, and safe delivery to the afterlife by her devotees.
Santa Muerte - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_MuerteWikipedia

Is this the Angel of Death, essentially?

If so, do you have a way to reconcile the line
"There is no death; there is the Force"?

It depends on how you see her. A lot of people associate her with death. I don't see her that way.

And yeah I could say that easily.

Proteus wrote: Is this the Angel of Death, essentially?

Not exactly. An "angel of death" is typically a psychopomp, and while many personifications of death are also psychopomps (like the Reaper), and angel of death does not, necessarily, have to be an incarnation or personification of death to accomplish their job.

Santa Muerte, as I understand her, is a personification more similar to the Death card of the Tarot than to our typical conception of a psychopomp such as the Reaper. She comes from Mesoamerican belief systems that predate the Catholicism that was forced on many of those regions, and in current form is arguably syncretic (arguably because, like many of the lwa, one could see Santa Muerte not as a combination of saint and deity, but as deity-masked-as-saint, so her worship could continue under the noses of Catholics).

I know she's revered by many adherents of brujeria, and has been readily adopted by at least some adherents to santeria and vodou as well.

Also, the line "There is no Death, only the Force" can't be taken in a literal fashion, because it would deny the reality of the demise of our physical bodies, something that still troubles a great many people, Jedi included. It is through worship of these avatars of the beyond, such as Santa Muerte, that many come to terms with their fear of death, and are thereby able to live fuller, happier lives instead of dreading their ultimate exit from the stage of life.

Remember, not everyone here follows that version of the code, hence the newer edit...

Emotion, yet peace.
Ignorance, yet knowledge.
Passion, yet serenity.
Chaos, yet harmony.
Death, yet the Force."

She has a bad reputation due to certain individuals. But she is legit. I think I'll stick around. I am interested.

steamboat28 wrote: Also, the line "There is no Death, only the Force" can't be taken in a literal fashion, because it would deny the reality of the demise of our physical bodies, something that still troubles a great many people, Jedi included. It is through worship of these avatars of the beyond, such as Santa Muerte, that many come to terms with their fear of death, and are thereby able to live fuller, happier lives instead of dreading their ultimate exit from the stage of life.

I do believe that "there is no death, there is force" refers to the grand scheme of things. As there isn't death but the lack of force, there isn't emotions but peace of conflict. It is taking about the very direction of life on a time and space fabric. In the force.