General Questions

Our licensed ministers, in the United States have the same rights and powers of any priest, rabbi, minister etc. They may conduct weddings. Some states require registration and some do not. I am putting up a state by state list of requirements but always check with your county clerk and an attorney for the final word.

Br. John<br><br>Post edited by: Br. John, at: 2007/03/21 01:08

How do i become a member of clergy or become ordained?

kize39 wrote:

How do i become a member of clergy or become ordained?

http://templeofthejediorder.org/index.php?option=com_performs&formid=1&Itemid=56

Under the main menu Jedi Application.

Br. John

My appologies for the post above, accident.

I wanted to check if you had that state listing yet as to what the specific state by state regulations are on clergy and how we become officially certified. Thank you.

I guess my more broad interest is to what extent the capacity of reverend extends and the state by state regulations:-)<br><br>Post edited by: HesinRaca, at: 2007/03/23 16:53

HesinRaca wrote:

I guess my more broad interest is to what extent the capacity of reverend extends and the state by state regulations:-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Post edited by: HesinRaca, at: 2007/03/23 16:53

The only time state regulations are involved is when a minister conducts a marriage.

That's it.

I am posting a list but it does not substitute for the advice of an attorney or your local county clerk.

Laws may change.

Br. John

HesinRaca wrote:

I guess my more broad interest is to what extent the capacity of reverend extends and the state by state regulations:-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Post edited by: HesinRaca, at: 2007/03/23 16:53

http://www.secular-celebrations.com/weddings/Staterules.htm

The best way I can say this in my own works is to use someone else's. Always check with an attorney or at least your county clerk. This is information and might change with court rulings and laws.

Br. John

\&quot;\&quot;ministers must file their credentials with the county clerk \&quot;\&quot;\&quot;

What does credentials entail? Is the Certificate of Ministry a complete credential? I know it seams odd I'd be so interested in this specific ceremony but I guess it is pretty interesting and I am curious, hope I don't drive anyone nuts, feel free to ignore me:-P

-Cedric

HesinRaca wrote:

\&quot;\&quot;ministers must file their credentials with the county clerk \&quot;\&quot;\&quot;

What does credentials entail? Is the Certificate of Ministry a complete credential? I know it seams odd I'd be so interested in this specific ceremony but I guess it is pretty interesting and I am curious, hope I don't drive anyone nuts, feel free to ignore me:-P

-Cedric

In most of the few states that require you file them the free pdf is all you need. It's our records that make it legal. A very few places require a current dated letter of good standing and if anyone need one we send it.

All the laws are in the state guide. We know that ID cards and badges are helpful when you are making a hospital or prison visit etc and you should be ready to show them with a state ID like a drivers license.

We will offer those soon as well as some other handy items.

It's fine to have business cards just wait until we get our trademark camera ready.

Br. John <br><br>Post edited by: Br. John, at: 2007/03/23 22:47

Br. John wrote:

HesinRaca wrote:

\&quot;\&quot;ministers must file their credentials with the county clerk \&quot;\&quot;\&quot;

What does credentials entail? Is the Certificate of Ministry a complete credential? I know it seams odd I'd be so interested in this specific ceremony but I guess it is pretty interesting and I am curious, hope I don't drive anyone nuts, feel free to ignore me:-P

-Cedric

In most of the few states that require you file them the free pdf is all you need. It's our records that make it legal. A very few places require a current dated letter of good standing and if anyone need one we send it.

All the laws are in the state guide. We know that ID cards and badges are helpful when you are making a hospital or prison visit etc and you should be ready to show them with a state ID like a drivers license.

We will offer those soon as well as some other handy items.

It's fine to have business cards just wait until we get our trademark camera ready.

Br. John

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&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Post edited by: Br. John, at: 2007/03/23 22:47

So do you know when you might have ID cards yet?? if not would you mind sending me a pic of the temple's logo So I can make some business cards or something?? plus I want to embroder the logo on my robes nad it would be help full

This is the logo but we do not have a camera ready graphic available yet. You should wait a week or so untill we have a vectored grahic. The ID card will be ready in two weeks.

Br. John

I'm curious and can't quite find it anywhere, is there a symbolic nature to this device? What is the significance of the sun and 5?

I'm curious and can't quite find it anywhere, is there a symbolic nature to this device? What is the significance of the sun and 5?

This is an epiphany for Br. John who had not noticed the sun blazing right out of the symbol. The 5 is for:

There is no emotion; there is peace.
There is no ignorance; there is knowledge.
There is no passion; there is serenity.
There is no chaos; there is harmony.
There is no death; there is the Force.

The inner 16 rays are for the sixteen traditional Jedi teachings and to honor the hexadecimal system.

Good Question and Thanks for the sun:ohmy: .

Br. John



HesinRaca wrote:

I'm curious and can't quite find it anywhere, is there a symbolic nature to this device? What is the significance of the sun and 5?

Thank you for the explanation. But is there a symbolic meaning to the \&quot;sign\&quot; on the home page? The three (whatever their name is in mathematics) with the circle inside? I have a hunch but maybe I am interpreting things...

Thanks.

Thank you, got the meaning, celtic trinity cross.

I'm interested in a long term goal of pursuing the M. Div. Are there associated costs with this?

rrhodes67 wrote: I'm interested in a long term goal of pursuing the M. Div. Are there associated costs with this?

Hi there...

No, there aren't...

Each 'level' of the degree scheme is accessed via rank (and vice versa, I guess)...

The A.Div is currently made up of the work done for the Initiate's Programme and Apprenticeship...

The B.Div is made up of independent work that you can choose to do following Knighthood (completion of which grants Senior Knight rank at the time of writing)...

The M.Div is a further level of independent study on top of that...

As the degree scheme is so interwoven with our rank system, no, there are no costs involved...if there were, we would be charging people for their ranks, which we would never do...

The only possible costs would be if your Training Master asked you to buy a book, or a movie, in order to study it (or if you chose to purchase such things to assist with independent study at the B.Div/M.Div level - for instance, I have purchased some physical copies of books simply because I don't like reading books on a computer screen - but that was fully my choice and not something that was absolutely necessary to do)...but most Training Masters try to use free online materials to avoid this.

It's been a while, real life gets in the way. While there are no costs, do these degrees have actual hard copy certificates to show you've achieved this degree, and are they legitimate degrees, ie. you can put A. Div or M.Div after your name?

Yes there are certificates you can get, there is a fee for the certificate but its the same at most colleges as well (I never picked up my autocad certificate because I didn't have the funds, even though I am certified)

You can add a.div,nb.div,m.div etc....however as we're not accredited many would not recognize it, within totjo though it would be....and possibly at other sites whose membership knows of our methods/procedures