What makes a Jedi ?

It’s 2020 and there are Jedi everywhere. Thanks to the World Wide Web we can associate ourselves with pretty much anything we choose.

Today - right now - what constitutes a modern day Jeddi ?

What is a Jedi ?
A modern day Jedi ?

Who are the Jedi?

Right now ?
How do we meet and find them ?

What type of Jedi are there ?

Are there denominations in the Jedi community ?

Pastor Carlos - feel free to answer on or all or in your own journal - place em there too!

NOT asking for a friend.

Where do WE stand in all /// that // or do we ?

Always up for a good chat !!!
Any takers ?

If you claim it, you are.

If there is a standard, I look for people who want to understand everything in their life and the relationship they have with it.

Is defining a Jedi more based on what one proposes they believe (As in "I believe in The Force")? Or is it more based on what they exhibit in their behavior regardless of their belief? Is one more important than the other, and if so, which?

In my mind, I see the Jedi as the balancing force, that which steers the ship back towards some semblance of order as it strays toward chaos. Not the order of authoritarianism, but more the order of fairness and equality for all. As such, I feel like the role and responsibilities of Jedi are in flux, at times it is appropriate for them to be the loudest voice in the room, at others silent.

Specific to right now, I feel it is important for us to help maintain the peace, help point out what is unfair and how people are being singled out and mistreated, but there is so much division in the world, and especially the US, that if it can't be done peacefully, it may be best to not point it out at all. Raising your voice to deaf ears just adds to the cacophony, gives fuel to more chaos. At that time, just hold the line.

It's both. Beliefs are just empty thoughts without applying it to your behavior and actions. Behavior and actions are just wants or the "Surface Ego" or "Programming" without a deep belief.

(Reply to Proteus)

I totally support that idea almost always Rugadd. There WAS a moment here in the Temple that profession of faith or mere “I’m a Jedi” wasn’t as accepted as more need of proof. It happens in every faith honestly but there was a moment I think back a few years ago just because one says I’m Jedi dosnt make a Jedi - Jedi. Today.

I’m a practitioner of confessions of faiths or affirmations of intentions or even articles of help or codes upheld.

Is it really that simple now a a days to choose the. Identification - Jedi - ???

That’s one of my many questions

Proteus wrote: Is defining a Jedi more based on what one proposes they believe (As in "I believe in The Force")? Or is it more based on what they exhibit in their behavior regardless of their belief? Is one more important than the other, and if so, which?

I love it when you get me Pro -
Get me thinking !
So then my question here is - why it matters others definitions or even paths if Inherent worth is given right through the door so to speak ... why worry about what a Jedi can - be rather than what a Jedi is ... still chatting with ya !

Is our answers always some one else’s answer ...

Jiddu said most of what we know is “spoon fed” To us in the begining.

The definition of a Jedi could be huge or simple depending on who ya talk to hu?

So then - is a Jedi or can a Jedi be labeled as a ever evolving adding taking away type of idea ?

-Consistently inconsistent -ever moving - every growing -

Brontyn wrote: In my mind, I see the Jedi as the balancing force, that which steers the ship back towards some semblance of order as it strays toward chaos. Not the order of authoritarianism, but more the order of fairness and equality for all. As such, I feel like the role and responsibilities of Jedi are in flux, at times it is appropriate for them to be the loudest voice in the room, at others silent.

Specific to right now, I feel it is important for us to help maintain the peace, help point out what is unfair and how people are being singled out and mistreated, but there is so much division in the world, and especially the US, that if it can't be done peacefully, it may be best to not point it out at all. Raising your voice to deaf ears just adds to the cacophony, gives fuel to more chaos. At that time, just hold the line.

Thank you !

That common goal for peace and being the “missing link “ or the piece that we were missing - the example WE needed - IS a common Jedi Force we ALL share here. I read what y’all write!

Hold the line -
That’s easyer said than done my friend and I Hope the Force you need finds you when ya need it along with rest ! May you find rest where you can get it !


But that’s the Knightly Force we ALL share hu?

Savage Jedi wrote: It's both. Beliefs are just empty thoughts without applying it to your behavior and actions. Behavior and actions are just wants or the "Surface Ego" or "Programming" without a deep belief.

(Reply to Proteus)

“Faith without works is like a song you can’t sing - it’s about as useless as a screen door on a submarine -“ a silly yet heavy song from a guy named Rich Mullins.

Made me sing it in my head when I read your comment


Edit : so with every faith or group or order there will always be that type present - the sticker Jedi ?

I don’t say sticker Jedi in a de notation or insult or even as a diss - it is a very easy way for me to understand “by patch “ or certificate only type of ideas - as per Jedi . If that makes any sense. General admittance tickets - that type of thing . We have Jedi like that too - and that’s ok too.

Sticker Jedi are the hardcore Star Wars Fans who see the deepness of the Lore, but haven't quite been able to fuse belief ,behavior and actions. Could it be that they haven't experienced their metaphorical Death? Maybe. Could it be that something in their life "disconnects" them from the Force? Maybe.
Should they be denied the title of Jedi? Definitely not.

Can others not view them as such? Yes, but guiding is better than pushing.

Savage Jedi wrote: Sticker Jedi are the hardcore Star Wars Fans who see the deepness of the Lore, but haven't quite been able to fuse belief ,behavior and actions. Could it be that they haven't experienced their metaphorical Death? Maybe. Could it be that something in their life "disconnects" them from the Force? Maybe.
Should they be denied the title of Jedi? Definitely not.

Can others not view them as such? Yes, but guiding is better than pushing.

That was me before I walked into our Library ...

So there’s a Fan phase that exist that becomes the push to search ? Still enjoying the chat !

There are many approaches to the Force and many different Force-users (or those simply sensitive to the Force), but a Jedi is someone with a particular approach to the Force.

I would argue that it is an inclusive, or (literally) universalist, approach, but that’s just me.

Each force can be different...they can be specific yet similar ?

Exclusive yet inclusive

If you want something deeper, one must propose they are an authority or bend to another authorities definition: We aren't classifying minerals, there is no absolute "this is a jedi" per se unless seen from a particular viewpoint. You'll find tha man yof the truths we cling too are dependent on our point of view. That is why I included my standard. It's just a label with out it, but not one I have some power over to define for anyone but myself. I make a habit of pretending anyone I am dealing with has a lightsaber on their hip: this viewpoint has served me well, even if they never claim the title.

Does being a Jedi need to have a OMNIPRESENT Force ! ? Or acknowledging one ? Or not ?

Carlos.Martinez3 wrote: Does being a Jedi need to have a OMNIPRESENT Force ! ? Or acknowledging one ? Or not ?

If being a Jedi includes believing in or acknowledging some sort of 'Force' then I have a real problem....

@Edan

How so?

Edan wrote:

Carlos.Martinez3 wrote: Does being a Jedi need to have a OMNIPRESENT Force ! ? Or acknowledging one ? Or not ?

If being a Jedi includes believing in or acknowledging some sort of 'Force' then I have a real problem....

So how DOES it exist now ? How is the balace you have work for you ? That’s the cut to bone I like.. care to share how it works for you ? Actually ? If you like I’ll share the same.



Edit : do we need validation in Jedi ism ? Or to be a Jedi to some sort of extent ?

Loving the chat still just chatting out loud . I trust the people here to show and share. I’m already blessed by yalls responses.

Edan wrote:

Carlos.Martinez3 wrote: Does being a Jedi need to have a OMNIPRESENT Force ! ? Or acknowledging one ? Or not ?

If being a Jedi includes believing in or acknowledging some sort of 'Force' then I have a real problem....

You don't have to believe in the Cosmic or Spiritual Force to acknowledge part of "The Force". Every time you do things that living beings can only do, you're acknowledging the Living Force(or that you're part of it).

Savage Jedi wrote:

Edan wrote:

Carlos.Martinez3 wrote: Does being a Jedi need to have a OMNIPRESENT Force ! ? Or acknowledging one ? Or not ?

If being a Jedi includes believing in or acknowledging some sort of 'Force' then I have a real problem....

You don't have to believe in the Cosmic or Spiritual Force to acknowledge part of "The Force". Every time you do things that living beings can only do, you're acknowledging the Living Force(or that you're part of it).

Then is there Denominations in the Force ? Is that what Sithism is in real life ? Same Force - different moves - different results ?