Apology

I am very sorry for starting the 'Have you killed a human' thread. It was pure curiosity and I did not realise that it would upset people or lead to arguments. I am sorry about my comment on Americans, all of you are lovely people here at TotJO, I don't know why I said it and I wish I didn't. Thank you Stu for locking the thread. MTFBWY

Thanks for this Silas.

Let's find the lesson here. I hope we can all reflect on the importance of clear and courteous discussion, and apply it in future.

Silas Mercury wrote: I am very sorry for starting the 'Have you killed a human' thread. It was pure curiosity and I did not realise that it would upset people or lead to arguments. I am sorry about my comment on Americans, all of you are lovely people here at TotJO, I don't know why I said it and I wish I didn't. Thank you Stu for locking the thread. MTFBWY

Forget it mate, the number of times people have asked that question is crazy ... The young always ask the same question to military, police or close protection officers .. Water under the bridge now...Nothing to see here, move along! :whistle:

i didnt want to post again in the WHAT I APPRECIATE thread, but i appreciate this apology Silas Mercury, a d since i seem so quick to explain why you are wrong about this or that, let me also explain what it is that i appreciate about what youve done here
first of all, i dont really think your question was that big of a deal: distasteful, yes, for those who understand the significance of it, but its actually a pretty common kind of thing to wonder about, especially at younger ages

i believe you asked out of youthful curiosity, not deliberate callousness- and i happen to be a big fan of curiosity, for all ages

what you apology signifies to me is that you arent callous, not really - you do actually care, and you do want to be a part of a community

now, its just the simple truth that youve collected some silly ideas, but we all do that, all of us, and the best cure for it is to become acquanited with new ideas, become like an idea adventurer, and idea pirate, always looking for new plunder lol, and for that you are definitely in the right place

but the place wouldnt matter if you were the kind of person who really didnt care and didnt want to improve

this apology suggests to me that you do, and even though i give you a hard time, i think that you (you, the real person, the one underneath all those ideas) are probably ok, and im glad you are here

You're too sensitive. Let it go it's not a big deal. You're good.

Silas Mercury! Thank you for your questions, do not stop. If I had never asked anything I wouldn't have learned nothing! pun intended. The way we ask and the way we learn can be a help or a hindrance depending on us and our choices. Different choices lead to different outcomes. This is called...dahh dahh dah dah!!! LIFE and if your not cautious it can grow fast and out of control like weeds with no tending. Plant different ideas get different opinions. Don't stop friend but do be cautious. Guard yourself and your heart, its yours! You are not over sensitive or over anything. Thank you for being you . The Joys of this place is that we are not me. I am not you and you are not me yet...we are here together trying to make sense and figure out our own ...as some places call our own salvation.... your not alone friend. thanks for being the example of apologies and good form! Lead the way friend, there is a whole Temple behind you , I know I am one! Feel free to pm me any time or just stop by to say hi. Be well and may the Living Force, you know the one that lives in everything...lol continue to be with you Silas Mercury! I know it is...isn't it obvious lol

You show maturity and concern with this apology...and there's really nothing to apologize for...innocent curiosity isn't a crime nor a sin. Being a veteran I get asked that question quite often, and when I mention that most of my enlistment was spent on a top secret communications base I then get asked a whole different set of questions :whistle:

It was frustrating when I first got out because by nature i'm a blatantly honest person and here I was contractually obligated to keep quiet...then 3 years into my 7 year nda (non disclosure agreement) i'm watching discovery channel, and they begin discussing the echelon program and take a guided tour through my former base with their cameras...meanwhile all the pics I had taken on base with my friends were confiscated even though I made certain that they didn't show anything important...oh well the memories remain even if the pics don't...and i've rambled off on a tangent now...

Greetings!
I am not mad at you. You are a great person and your actions are in the past. I will not dwell on the fact that you have started an offensive thread, nor will I hold a grudge on you for it. Just remember to learn from your mistakes is all I ask.

Forgiveness is something that is much needed if we are to advance into the next stage(s) of life, whatever that may be. If we are to advance, we need understanding, forgiveness, acceptance, etc. and I believe that you need that right now. So I must now tell you, I forgive you. I understand why you posted that thread, and, as you said, it was a misunderstanding and you didn't intend to upset anyone. I accept your apology fully.

There, all three. It feels good, doesn't it?
Do me a favor, alrighty? Pay that good feeling forward buddy, it will go far.

honestly, you should apologize for constantly making disparaging generalizations about white people and american people

promoting bigotry on a forum dedicated to promoting unity and compassion?
yeah, apologize for THAT

OB1Shinobi wrote: honestly, you should apologize for constantly making disparaging generalizations about white people and american people

promoting bigotry on a forum dedicated to promoting unity and compassion?
yeah, apologize for THAT

Maybe I missed something, but isn't that what he did?

Jutus wrote:

OB1Shinobi wrote: honestly, you should apologize for constantly making disparaging generalizations about white people and american people

promoting bigotry on a forum dedicated to promoting unity and compassion?
yeah, apologize for THAT

Maybe I missed something, but isn't that what he did?

yeah he threw it in there about americans (and qualified it by saying "totjo people are ok" which implies everyone else in america is garbage lol) but he goes on to continue with it in other conversations right after "apologizing" for it here, and he hasnt acknowledged or apologized for the racism at all

OB1Shinobi wrote: honestly, you should apologize for constantly making disparaging generalizations about white people and american people

promoting bigotry on a forum dedicated to promoting unity and compassion?
yeah, apologize for THAT

You sound upset. Jedi do not focus on the past, and I think he should be forgiven. Not to say what he did wasn't wrong, It was.
It just bugs me when people shame others.

Also, please refrain from using caps in a forum post, sounds like you are yelling and I dont like loud noises.

OB1Shinobi wrote:

Jutus wrote:

OB1Shinobi wrote: honestly, you should apologize for constantly making disparaging generalizations about white people and american people

promoting bigotry on a forum dedicated to promoting unity and compassion?
yeah, apologize for THAT

Maybe I missed something, but isn't that what he did?

yeah he threw it in there about americans (and qualified it by saying "totjo people are ok" which implies everyone else in america is garbage lol) but he goes on to continue with it in other conversations right after "apologizing" for it here, and he hasnt acknowledged or apologized for the racism at all

He did apologize apologize for his comment on americans:

Silas Mercury wrote: I am very sorry for starting the 'Have you killed a human' thread. It was pure curiosity and I did not realise that it would upset people or lead to arguments. I am sorry about my comment on Americans, all of you are lovely people here at TotJO, I don't know why I said it and I wish I didn't. Thank you Stu for locking the thread. MTFBWY

"I am sorry about my comment on Americans, all of you are lovely people here at TotJO, I don't know why I said it and I wish I didn't."

He did apologize.

sNe1a wrote:

OB1Shinobi wrote:

Jutus wrote:

OB1Shinobi wrote: honestly, you should apologize for constantly making disparaging generalizations about white people and american people

promoting bigotry on a forum dedicated to promoting unity and compassion?
yeah, apologize for THAT

Maybe I missed something, but isn't that what he did?

yeah he threw it in there about americans (and qualified it by saying "totjo people are ok" which implies everyone else in america is garbage lol) but he goes on to continue with it in other conversations right after "apologizing" for it here, and he hasnt acknowledged or apologized for the racism at all

He did apologize apologize for his comment on americans:

Silas Mercury wrote: I am very sorry for starting the 'Have you killed a human' thread. It was pure curiosity and I did not realise that it would upset people or lead to arguments. I am sorry about my comment on Americans, all of you are lovely people here at TotJO, I don't know why I said it and I wish I didn't. Thank you Stu for locking the thread. MTFBWY

"I am sorry about my comment on Americans, all of you are lovely people here at TotJO, I don't know why I said it and I wish I didn't."

He did apologize.

He sure did, he then continued ranting on the United States, its Government, and lumping everyone together blaming us for what happened in WW2 and a host of other fun facts he got wrong...

Hadnt seen that. I will talk to him.

sNe1a wrote:

OB1Shinobi wrote: honestly, you should apologize for constantly making disparaging generalizations about white people and american people

promoting bigotry on a forum dedicated to promoting unity and compassion?
yeah, apologize for THAT

You sound upset. Jedi do not focus on the past, and I think he should be forgiven. Not to say what he did wasn't wrong, It was.
It just bugs me when people shame others.

Also, please refrain from using caps in a forum post, sounds like you are yelling and I dont like loud noises.

are you joking?
is this a joke account?

sNe1a wrote: You sound upset.

you have no idea what i sound like because you cant hear me - you do realize that you cannot hear my text, right?

sNe1a wrote: Jedi do not focus on the past, and I think he should be forgiven.

i wrote this comment in the past, why you focusing on it now?
and why should i care what you think?

sNe1a wrote: Not to say what he did wasn't wrong, It was.

then we should point it out like grown ups
grown ups do in fact point it out when things malfunction - thats one of the prerequisites of being a grown up: recognizing when things are not working the way they should and correcting them

sNe1a wrote: It just bugs me when people shame others.

first of all, people should be ashamed when they do things that are destructive and immature
second, i wasnt shaming him
last, and most important to your life, NO ONE CARES WHAT BUGS YOU

im guessing everything bugs you, which means that what bugs you is a personal issue

and you dont have any right to run around telling everyone else to change their every little behavior at every one of your little irritations

reality is never going to conform to your demands, if you want to make a way for yourself, learn to recognize reality for what it is and prepare yourself to survive it

sNe1a wrote: Also, please refrain from using caps in a forum post, sounds like you are yelling and I dont like loud noises.

THATS CUTE, YOU STILL THINK YOU CAN HEAR ME LOL

the wind is loud, thunder is loud, destruction is loud, are you going to argue with them?

you dont make the rules

and its a good thing because the rules youre trying to make are bad rules

theyre all about not hurting your tiny little feelings, and the universe will crush you without ever knowing how you feel

you need to prepare yourself to face the truth of your own mortality and frailty in a world that doesnt care about you, and is in fact full of forces which are actively seeking to destroy you

OB1Shinobi wrote: Stuff

Might I point out if we are going to speak on acting like adults, it helps to act like one yourself? It helps to not come off as a snarky preteen rather then an adult pointing out a legit issue. Because on your issue you are right. However the way you responded to someone is totally more in line with a sarcastic teenagers response then that of the adult you told us to act like. The kid didnt realize that more had been said and was trying to point out that he thought apologies had already been given. Not his fault that he didnt know that more had gone on. If you want an example of how to correct that lack of knowledge see Zenchi's response to the same thing. Give the guy a break he was trying to call for decency and peace, which is something that more people should try around here rather then getting so defensive when things are likely misunderstandings.

Perhaps we should all take a step back from this thread for a bit...

Yay!

Teach me to eat food and look away from the forum for a second.

Let's take Edan's advice and take a break from this thread for a day.

Judging by the forum clock. We can start again (if the topic is still relevant) at 31 August 2016 @ 23:00 UTC

MadHatter wrote:

OB1Shinobi wrote: Stuff

Might I point out if we are going to speak on acting like adults, it helps to act like one yourself? It helps to not come off as a snarky preteen rather then an adult pointing out a legit issue. Because on your issue you are right. However the way you responded to someone is totally more in line with a sarcastic teenagers response then that of the adult you told us to act like.
The kid didnt realize that more had been said and was trying to point out that he thought apologies had already been given. Not his fault that he didnt know that more had gone on. If you want an example of how to correct that lack of knowledge see Zenchi's response to the same thing. Give the guy a break he was trying to call for decency and peace, which is something that more people should try around here rather then getting so defensive when things are likely misunderstandings.

i took your feedback as a cue that i should be more restrained in my own responses - and thank you for pointing it out to me

i will mention that i didnt tell YOU or the rest of "us"to act like adults - actually i didnt even tell him to act like an adult, and id say that i responded to him about as well as anyone has a right to expect to be responded to (even here) when they jump into a situation that they dont understand at all, and start making totally inappropriate critiques of someone they have never spoken with previously

ive been chugging coffee in front of a computer all day, so i may very well have come across as snarky - that does happen, ive noticed, when i have too much caffeine and too much screen time, they seem to work together

so when i saw your post to me, i hit THANK YOU in acknowledgement of what you said and then went back to my work - i think that was the adult thing to do