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25 Oct 2007 20:26 #8448 by
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I have decided to post something about this topic because it is another part of my life.
There are people in the world who believe that they may be another species of some sort in spirit/soul. These people have a strong connection to this other species and many have past life memories of being a member of that species.
There are a number of species which fall into this catagory. Including but not limited to:
Mamals
Fish
Birds
Lizards
Amphibian (sp?)
And even mythical beings
Elves
Fae
Dragons
Unicorns
Pegasus
And also there are some who believe they have the sould of a more spiritual being
Angel
Demon
Celestial
And then there are some a little more far fetched as in
Aliens
Many otherkin feel a very defined longing to go home, and feeling of being very different from 'human'.

Now, as for vampire, some peole believe that they need energy for one reason or another to live comfortably, not necessarily to live or survive. For one reason or another they were born with this lack of energy and often don't realize what they are doing (if psychic vampire) until they awaken, some are fully awaken their whole lives. As for Sanguinarian vampires, they feel they get the energy from blood, they can often feed from other means but blood is known to carry the most energy. and there is element vampires who believe they get energy from various natural forces (ie, fire, earth, air, water, sun, etc.) And finally there is the sexual or tantric vampires, occasionally known as succubai or incubai that get the energy that is radiated during and after intercourse.

I may post more about this later but currently i have run out of time.

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25 Oct 2007 20:33 #8449 by
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I associate myself as an angel. A holy and divine spirit of the Lord who exhudes brilliant light and does the great work of God.

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25 Oct 2007 20:56 #8451 by Jon
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Anora^una_Ilorn wrote:

I have decided to post something about this topic because it is another part of my life.
There are people in the world who believe that they may be another species of some sort in spirit/soul. These people have a strong connection to this other species and many have past life memories of being a member of that species.
There are a number of species which fall into this catagory. Including but not limited to:
Mamals
Fish
Birds
Lizards
Amphibian (sp?)
And even mythical beings
Elves
Fae
Dragons
Unicorns
Pegasus
And also there are some who believe they have the sould of a more spiritual being
Angel
Demon
Celestial
And then there are some a little more far fetched as in
Aliens
Many otherkin feel a very defined longing to go home, and feeling of being very different from 'human'.

Now, as for vampire, some peole believe that they need energy for one reason or another to live comfortably, not necessarily to live or survive. For one reason or another they were born with this lack of energy and often don't realize what they are doing (if psychic vampire) until they awaken, some are fully awaken their whole lives. As for Sanguinarian vampires, they feel they get the energy from blood, they can often feed from other means but blood is known to carry the most energy. and there is element vampires who believe they get energy from various natural forces (ie, fire, earth, air, water, sun, etc.) And finally there is the sexual or tantric vampires, occasionally known as succubai or incubai that get the energy that is radiated during and after intercourse.

I may post more about this later but currently i have run out of time.


Interesting. I didn`t know there existed so many different vampyres. What would interest me is whether such beings exist or are they purely mythical? If it is mythical then someone had a really good imagination. Tibetan Buddhist believe for example that even the so called imagination results from a very real experience.

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25 Oct 2007 21:12 #8453 by
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I've heard of these psycic vampires, but everything I've heard is not good, maybe someone can enlighten us a little better about them.

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26 Oct 2007 17:16 #8494 by
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if you want more in depth info you can go to HouseofMaat.com

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26 Oct 2007 17:35 #8495 by Jon
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Thanks Sister April. Interesting.

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27 Oct 2007 01:45 #8505 by
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I know it stretchs some people perception of reality just a bit and people might think that some of these people are quacks and the truth is some of them are, but that is no different then any other orginization, like i know there are some quack jedi too, so i thought it might just be interesting to introduce one subculture to another.

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27 Oct 2007 04:13 #8509 by
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Thank you, Anora. I know quite a bit about this subculture, or in another term, condition.

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27 Oct 2007 04:21 #8510 by
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Well, it depends on who you ask whether it is a condition or not. I have no idea what is really out there, demensions, planets, realms, etc. Not to mention energy has been proven in the human body and i have seen different levels in people using scientific means, so who knows what could happen. The vast majority of Vampires do not believe they are immortal and the ones that do are usually written off as completely nutts. they usually don't last long in the more 'mainstream' groups. And as for otherkin, i have no idea exactly how far reincarnation can be taken. For all i know everything could have a soul, much like many of the native americans believe. many have the belief of Animalism, or something along that line, where everything from humans to rocks have souls. And if other realms of existance do in fact exist that i could be elf, fae, werewolf, etc in spirit but human in most other aspects especially physically.


In truth no one trully knows all of the mysteries of the universe. We just kinda have to remember that an open mind is a good thing, just so long as our brains aren't spilling out.

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04 Nov 2007 03:43 #8787 by
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Indeed, Anora, not a soul knows all the truths, or even just a couple ENTIRE truths. It's hard to say what is truth and what is not, except that which is personal truths to ourselves. I know many vampires don't claim immortality, but then again, I know almost an equal share that believes they can reach that immortality (non-physical) via vampyric methods. As far as otherkin go, I've known deer, a mouse, a leopard, a couple dragons, one demon, an angelic, and a sabertooth (to my knowledge). I'm sure there are others that I just cannot remember now. I've known countless Vampires as well. Ahh! I nearly forgot two wolves and a fae! I've also met those claiming to be great leaders or beings in the past. I've met Indigo and Crystal Children.

I believe in it all. :laugh:

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04 Nov 2007 17:17 #8815 by
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Is that your brain i am seeing? lol j/k, i especially believe in crystal and indigo children, to much is happening with our children these days, some are getting smarter at a younger age and even have 'abilities'. It is a blessing to live in the time we are living right now.

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22 Jul 2008 17:18 - 22 Jul 2008 17:18 #17242 by
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Vampires are broken down into generations and believed to be desendants of the Cainite Race. The physics you refered to earlier Master April are of the 4th generation known as Mesthesilas. They can be refered to commonly as Kin or Kindred.
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22 Jul 2008 20:19 #17243 by
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I donot now if this fits hear or not but hear it gows.
this is a storey may nanney youst to tell me about hear Grand mother. she had a od medicell condichion simlear to Raynoyeds. Raynoyeds is a condichion that afecks the serkulachen of bloued in your bodey. the vanes and artereys will spasemam cosing bloued flow to slow or in some casess stope. and it can evean cose the colipase of a vane or majore artrey. coled like ice or othear externaill ciled thing can cose an episoued if you pout ice on somwomens arme how hase this it can cose the spasimining to tack place in thear lage it may not hapen wear the ice is being aplided.

may Grate Grand Mother hade a vearey rar type of this condichen. on tope or the Raynoydes hear bloued was missing somthing hear bodey coudnot make it kined of like a dibetick and thear shrgear and inclean. I cannot rember wot it was that she was missing. But inorder to get wot she neded she youst to nead to brenk bloued. hear husband may Grate Grand Father youst to get hear bloued frome the boutcher in macen jares. and breng it home at night and tern off the lights so she woudent nead to see it and make hear drenk the stuff.
theay did aventley fined a betear way to deaill with this and in hear latear years she woued go get a neadeaill everay month insted of neding to drenk bloued frome macean jares in the dark.

now i can easeley see if somwon back than founed out wot wos gowing on and mabey not being eguacated in the situation may think she was a vampyer and thear you go a gost storey of a pore ladey becoming a vampyear.

Raynoyeds runes in may famley i have it but no ware to the extent of may Grate Grand motehr. the onley thing i nead to watch out for is the cooled and if may armes or lages start to tern blue or perple frome it if so to the doctores i go to hope theay can stope the spasmining of the bloued veseailles.

i sopose thear are maney difrent things that can be considered like a vampyear of aney type. it is kinda neate

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23 Jul 2008 02:06 #17248 by
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This may or may not be what Mouse is referring too, but there is a documented medical condition that tends to be prevalent in eastern European countries that is hereditary. Essentially it is a blood/digestive disorder leading to malabsorption of certain minerals which happen to be in high levels in meat/blood products. People do still suffer with this to varying degree's but modern medicine/science/diet etc have whilst not eradicated the 'disease' have more or less done away with the symptoms.

The symptoms also include cravings for meat and blood products and a small quirk is many sufferers have some enlarged teeth (again, the differences between numbers of teeth and enlargement differ from individuals).

A friend of mine at school had this disorder, and he had the classic vampire canine teeth, almost dog like, and his family were of Croatian origin. As a side note, I have a intestinal disorder and I too get quite ill quite fast if I dont eat meat, altho I have Northern/Scandinavian ancestry myself.

This sort of disorder according to scientists is the most likely source of the mythical Vampire blood sucking people etc. Well, to me it's ONE explanation but who really knows anything for sure.

As for those who play as such things, well, each to their own I guess, anyway, off to dentist now, canines need filing down again :D

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23 Jul 2008 09:13 #17251 by
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Another thing that lends credance to the vampire myths are those with documented cases of sun burning them. I can not recall the exact disease, but these people will blister if the sun even touches them in extreme cases.
As for those that play vampires, not all of them play, just as with pagan,druid and wiccans there are covenants; some good, some bad.

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23 Jul 2008 14:16 #17260 by
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Egh... I've voiced my opinion many times on the matter on other sites, but... I'm not particularly inclined to believe that anybody has the soul of anything other than what they currently are - the \"container\" holding it, if you will, as the brain is part of the body, and the brain determines our thoughts, actions, and (believe it or not) our beliefs.

In my opinion, a soul is a soul is a soul. It's nothing more than consciousness. Self-awareness. The knowledge that you exist. \"I Am,\" and all that. So to hear someone say they have the soul of a cat, a wolf, a tiger, a bear, a fox, or a dung beetle just rubs me the wrong way.

A soul tends to conform to the body it's in, does it not? Therefore, if the soul believes it should be elsewhere, it isn't a problem of misplacement, but a problem of the body being wired improperly. Or something to that effect.

I know there are various conditions that are LIKE vampirism, but unfortunately vampire lore tends to highlight the fact that vampires (or, the creatures described specifically under the name vampire) are the Undead - beings that rise from the grave to feed on the living. Having vampire-like characteristics does not make one a vampire, nor does a blood fetish and fang-like caps for their canines. Or an inability to go into sunlight (heck, even I don't like sunlight, but that's more because when I squint in the sunlight, it makes me sneeze).

And having an absolute need for blood also couldn't really count, as the whole point of vampires feeding on blood in certain cultures is that those cultures see the blood as the very life-force - and the whole point of vampires is that they are feeding off the life of others so that they may continue living.

Sorry to be all grumpy and \"blah,\" I just never really believed in the whole Otherkin thing. You can have the attributes of certain things - totem animals, or creatures real or mythical that you admire - but to believe you actually are one tends to lean on the edge of madness .

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27 Jul 2008 13:40 #17347 by
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I am not here to attempt to sway you to believe in something as far fetched as what this conversation is about. I will not deny that all of this could be just a load of poo but this is what many believe. my personal attempt at figuring out otherkin is that they were an animal in a past life and a sort of 'piece' of that animal carried over. nothing more, nothing less. the fact that i have know some people who claim to be wolf, tiger, dragon, demon, and vampire all in one proves mine and your point. but there have been people who supposed addapted a habit in a past life and carry it over to this life. I have heard of people who are terrible afraid of water only to discover they died by drown after doing a past life meditation. Some people feel more of a drawing to certain era, more then just a fascination or obsession. There are many memories that the soul can have, we have only begun to tap into the unlimited knowledge that the akashic field has to offer. I once thought i was something i was not and i might be something more, i do not know, i have never been able to do any sort of past life anything. but i will see someday :)

thank you for your critism though, this world would not be what it is if people didn't dissagree.

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