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What form(s) of magic(k) do you practice?
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I'm interested in hearing about the types of magic that other people in the community practice - and if you are comfortable sharing, I am also curious how you have effectively used your practices to enhance your individual experiences with Jediism. This is not a subject that most of us are able to talk about regularly or without receiving odd looks, so I thought it might be fun to get a conversation going in this section of the forum.
I would like this to remain a safe space where we can discuss our practices freely and without judgment. So I ask, please, that others respect this and not turn this thread into a debate about the authenticity of magic or its value.
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Or a bottle of nifty breaks,
Or a flask of joy, or Myrna Loy,
For luncheon with sirloin steaks.
Pour out a mug from this Old jug,
And you'll never get wet in rains.
I've bottles of grins and racetrack wins,
And lotions to ease your pains.
Here's bottles of imps and wet-pack shrimps,
From a sea unknown to man,
And an elixir to banish fear,
And the sap from the pipes of Pan.
With the powdered horn of a unicorn
You can win yourself a mate;
With the rich hobnob; or get a job —
It's yours at a lowered rate.
from Shottle Bop by Theodore Sturgeon
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As I'm getting a bit older now, I think I'm loosing 'range' or projection and instead falling back on myself a bit - to better understand my self in regards to this physical shell and its place in the Force. I'll call it bubbleism, lets all be round and shiny
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One day I might 'pop', but perhaps I'll grow big enough to bridge two layers/planes and continue on as a conduit... fed but fuelling in perpetuity
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steamboat: I had been wondering how you defined yourself in this sense. Thank you for sharing. If this is not too personal a question, how does the Jedi path fit into that? Or does it? I mean, it sounds like Jediism is an extension of Christian mysticism for you, but I'm curious if Jediism plays a part in terms of practical application or if it is more of a philosophical layer?
Jamie: Cool. I studied tarot for quite some time and would love to talk with you about it if you ever feel up to it. Do you have a favorite deck? I always worked with the standard Rider-Waite deck and Crowley's Thoth deck (the latter was generally for personal readings, and I admittedly used tarot less for divination than I did to figure out where my own head was at a given time).
Adder: Ooh. Very interesting. In all honesty, I don't even know where to start asking questions about your practices, but I'm genuinely intrigued. I can definitely appreciate the 'wander around in the dark' approach too.
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Arcade wrote: steamboat: I had been wondering how you defined yourself in this sense. Thank you for sharing. If this is not too personal a question, how does the Jedi path fit into that? Or does it? I mean, it sounds like Jediism is an extension of Christian mysticism for you, but I'm curious if Jediism plays a part in terms of practical application or if it is more of a philosophical layer?
I was originally drawn here for practical reasons, though I've found only philosophy. It's not a loss--I needed that, too--but I continue to see "Jediism" as an extension of the energywork I've done for years, and continue to pursue it in a practical manner.
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I have my own staff(oak aka wizards wood), wand (spruce), a jade chalice( don't know where or when I got it), also have a flagon of holy water I blessed myself, and a small vial of lightning infused soil...I have no idea what to use it for yet, when I collected it I was walking my dog outside and a bolt of lightning struck a tree 50 feet from me, my dog didn't even look up to see what happened...it blew all the bark off one side, and sent large splinters everywhere, and blew a big hole in the ground where it went in...I saw that and didn't hesitate to scoop some up...how often does one get an opportunity like that?...
When shaping my staff I had a dream that someone in a black robe told me "call my name" he then turned into a dragon and vanished into a mist..I shaped the staff head into a dragon's head, put my markings on the staff and waited until I finally learned the name. For the awakening I anointed it with the holy water and a small amount of the lightning infused soil, and called his name...I did the ceremony on halloween which just happened to have a full moon...
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
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RyuJin wrote: I did the ceremony on halloween which just happened to have a full moon...
That sounds excellent.
I realize I could simply look this up, but figure asking you will yield a more interesting answer... What is hedgecraft? Is it related to shamanism and/or witchcraft?
Do you recall which version of Enochian magic you studied? The Golden Dawn interpretation of the elemental tablets is obviously the most accessible, but I also found it a bit too complicated for my poor little brain.
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Golden dawn sounds familiar....of course it's been almost 24 years since then...I do remember learning that my magickal responsibility was dragon's blood...
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Quotes:
Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
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Former Masters: GM Kana Seiko Haruki , Br.John
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Former Apprentices:Adhara(knight), Zenchi (knight)
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RyuJin wrote: Hedgecraft is sometimes called kitchen magic...
Ah! Thanks. I thought that sounded familiar. I've heard the terms "kitchen witch" and "hedge witch" on various occasions, but wasn't aware of what those practices fully entailed.
It seems like you have a pretty sophisticated and diverse collection of techniques that you use then? Did you design/construct your own staff and wand?
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Arcade wrote: The way you've described it, I'm imagining sort of a mix of witchcraft, hoodoo, and shamanism.
There's also a lot of orphan folklore and superstition involved in some of it, too. It's basically the "local" everyday variant of magick. It's one of those things that, in the cultures or families it's big in, seems to be as engrained as tradition in the cultures and/or families in which it's practiced. I've spoken with a few folks that see it as "normal" and a "harmless gateway" to other practices and/or faiths.
Which brings me to a curious question for this thread, if I may--those of you who have answered, do you practice a religion as well? Does it influence your practice? Is it compatible, or is your practice secular in nature?
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do you practice a religion as well? Does it influence your practice? Is it compatible, or is your practice secular in nature?
At the time, my answer would have been yes to practising (I was theistic then), however not of one of the big organised religions obviously. It was a very big influence on my work.
"Evil is always possible. And goodness is eternally difficult."
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Yep. Goetic magic.Edan wrote: a mix of Egyptian heka, goetian (goetic?)
Technically, I'm a practitioner of Haitian Vodou (a monotheistic religion), since I attend fets (celebratory services for the ancestors) a few times a year, but as of this moment I don't consider myself a Vodouisant. I try to distance myself a little by specifying that I'm a NOLA voodoo practitioner (which, in my case, is a fairly secular practice), but the local Vodou community is full of lovely people and I like that community element sometimes, so I am often pulled in that direction.steamboat28 wrote: Do you practice a religion as well? Does it influence your practice? Is it compatible, or is your practice secular in nature?
I also practice Germanic paganism (Anglo-Saxon Heathenry), but am not connected in any way to modern reconstructionist communities. If I were to claim a religion, I would say that this feels closest to who I am. But is it a religion without a community element? I'm not sure. Still, the spiritual connection that I feel with the Germanic deities is very strong and most definitely influences my magical practices. Passionate modern Heathens might argue that magic was rarely practiced by the ancient Germanic people, but that spiritual current can still be an inspiration (and it has been for me in a big way).
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The staff was a small tree that had been cut down and left laying in back of the complex for over a year....everytime I walked the dog my gaze was drawn to it, so eventually I picked it up and went to work...the markings include my astrological symbol, the kanji symbols for:dragon, earth, air,fire, water. There is also a leather grip I made and the feathers are from a young bald eagle that was molting and currently resides atop a flagpole 3blocks away....
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It's hard to see but the head of the staff is carved into a dragons head...I have a philosophical lifestyle....as I dislike the concept religion has become....philosophy is flexible, religion is rigid....
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Quotes:
Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
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Understandable. There are some religions with a greater amount of flexibility, but I don't like things carved into stone either (unless we're talking about runes).RyuJin wrote: I have a philosophical lifestyle....as I dislike the concept religion has become....philosophy is flexible, religion is rigid....
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Jamie Stick wrote: I'm really glad this topic was started because it inspired me to continue my pagan studies
Excellent.
It's great that you're writing your own rituals and moving in your own direction. I found the basic framework that Wicca set out for me invaluable, but once I had a solid understanding I started traveling down my own branch of the path as well. All the best to you. I hope your journey takes you interesting places and brings you much peace and joy.
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