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What form(s) of magic(k) do you practice?

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25 Jul 2014 22:38 - 25 Jul 2014 22:42 #153481 by
Though I don't discuss this often on the forum, I am active in a few Pagan/occult traditions and practice a number of different forms of magic. I've had long time love affairs with John Dee's Enochian magic (esp. early applications like the Tabula Bonorum), New Orleans voodoo (as distinct from hoodoo ), runic magic , and magical practices related to Huna - and despite no longer being a practitioner of shamanism or chaos magic , I still utilize techniques from those traditions on occasion.

I'm interested in hearing about the types of magic that other people in the community practice - and if you are comfortable sharing, I am also curious how you have effectively used your practices to enhance your individual experiences with Jediism. This is not a subject that most of us are able to talk about regularly or without receiving odd looks, so I thought it might be fun to get a conversation going in this section of the forum.

I would like this to remain a safe space where we can discuss our practices freely and without judgment. So I ask, please, that others respect this and not turn this thread into a debate about the authenticity of magic or its value.
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25 Jul 2014 23:21 - 25 Jul 2014 23:23 #153483 by Br. John
For half a buck, a vial of luck,

Or a bottle of nifty breaks,

Or a flask of joy, or Myrna Loy,

For luncheon with sirloin steaks.

Pour out a mug from this Old jug,

And you'll never get wet in rains.

I've bottles of grins and racetrack wins,

And lotions to ease your pains.

Here's bottles of imps and wet-pack shrimps,

From a sea unknown to man,

And an elixir to banish fear,

And the sap from the pipes of Pan.

With the powdered horn of a unicorn

You can win yourself a mate;

With the rich hobnob; or get a job —

It's yours at a lowered rate.

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25 Jul 2014 23:51 #153484 by
Hello.ive been practicing a form of snchromystisism .an knowledge has been flowing.some really cools snchronicitys have been popping up in triplicate as well as standard double doses.i viewed a holographic universe seiries I downloaded on youtube.it was subliminal deconditioning to standard model thinking.it was basically the secret teachings downloaded right into the cortex.ever scince I've study said series .i can actually say .....the force is one stand up way of viewing the universe

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26 Jul 2014 00:41 #153489 by void
Syncretic Christian mystic checking in.
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26 Jul 2014 01:22 #153492 by
I'm studying Tarot card reading and I would participate in a number of different pagan rituals if asked, but at the moment none. I do it more for understanding rather than to enhance my own spiritual life (although understanding is a big part of my spiritual life).

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26 Jul 2014 01:40 #153495 by Adder
My own blend, mostly using Vajrayana Buddhism for internal alchemy, which tends to translate externally through changes in perception, which then relates back to 'connection', which allows direction of effort to achieve a balancing transfer of energy. Some external effects are likely consequence of tracking 'karmic traces' and managing mindfulness, but the point is to seek out and understand the higher fidelity results. So I basically wander around in the dark trying to find my own best methods.

As I'm getting a bit older now, I think I'm loosing 'range' or projection and instead falling back on myself a bit - to better understand my self in regards to this physical shell and its place in the Force. I'll call it bubbleism, lets all be round and shiny
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One day I might 'pop', but perhaps I'll grow big enough to bridge two layers/planes and continue on as a conduit... fed but fuelling in perpetuity
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26 Jul 2014 01:52 #153497 by
Ninjafretshadow: Interesting. I am pretty obsessed with synchronicity myself and it is frequently a focus in my magical workings. I wonder how common a thread the interest in synchronicity is in this community (in general or where other Pagans, witches, magicians, and mystics are concerned)?

steamboat: I had been wondering how you defined yourself in this sense. Thank you for sharing. If this is not too personal a question, how does the Jedi path fit into that? Or does it? I mean, it sounds like Jediism is an extension of Christian mysticism for you, but I'm curious if Jediism plays a part in terms of practical application or if it is more of a philosophical layer?

Jamie: Cool. I studied tarot for quite some time and would love to talk with you about it if you ever feel up to it. Do you have a favorite deck? I always worked with the standard Rider-Waite deck and Crowley's Thoth deck (the latter was generally for personal readings, and I admittedly used tarot less for divination than I did to figure out where my own head was at a given time). :)

Adder: Ooh. Very interesting. In all honesty, I don't even know where to start asking questions about your practices, but I'm genuinely intrigued. I can definitely appreciate the 'wander around in the dark' approach too. :) "Bubbleism, lets all be round and shiny"... nice! Forgive me, but you made me think of this...

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26 Jul 2014 02:19 #153498 by
Tarot is a very good practice.studying tarot from Carl yuengs view as pertained to psychology with the anima an animus the archetypical thought process can bring real understanding an practical uses for appealing to the comman being the magik view for the initiate.micheal tsarions work in that arena are all over youtube..I just had a synchro trip...I saw a commercial for a witch bubble 2 app downloaded it played it then came to the site an I see the bubble vid.far out! The tarot,sacred geometry,an numerology and psychology from yuengs teaching.......man that just blows the mind

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26 Jul 2014 03:47 #153500 by void

Arcade wrote: steamboat: I had been wondering how you defined yourself in this sense. Thank you for sharing. If this is not too personal a question, how does the Jedi path fit into that? Or does it? I mean, it sounds like Jediism is an extension of Christian mysticism for you, but I'm curious if Jediism plays a part in terms of practical application or if it is more of a philosophical layer?


I was originally drawn here for practical reasons, though I've found only philosophy. It's not a loss--I needed that, too--but I continue to see "Jediism" as an extension of the energywork I've done for years, and continue to pursue it in a practical manner.
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26 Jul 2014 04:50 #153506 by RyuJin
I'm currently exploring my own blend...a little shamanism/hedgecraft...in the past I've studied wicca, enochian, tarot, I-ching, runic, astrology..

I have my own staff(oak aka wizards wood), wand (spruce), a jade chalice( don't know where or when I got it), also have a flagon of holy water I blessed myself, and a small vial of lightning infused soil...I have no idea what to use it for yet, when I collected it I was walking my dog outside and a bolt of lightning struck a tree 50 feet from me, my dog didn't even look up to see what happened...it blew all the bark off one side, and sent large splinters everywhere, and blew a big hole in the ground where it went in...I saw that and didn't hesitate to scoop some up...how often does one get an opportunity like that?...

When shaping my staff I had a dream that someone in a black robe told me "call my name" he then turned into a dragon and vanished into a mist..I shaped the staff head into a dragon's head, put my markings on the staff and waited until I finally learned the name. For the awakening I anointed it with the holy water and a small amount of the lightning infused soil, and called his name...I did the ceremony on halloween which just happened to have a full moon...

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26 Jul 2014 05:08 #153508 by

RyuJin wrote: I did the ceremony on halloween which just happened to have a full moon...


That sounds excellent. :cheer:

I realize I could simply look this up, but figure asking you will yield a more interesting answer... What is hedgecraft? Is it related to shamanism and/or witchcraft?

Do you recall which version of Enochian magic you studied? The Golden Dawn interpretation of the elemental tablets is obviously the most accessible, but I also found it a bit too complicated for my poor little brain. :)

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26 Jul 2014 05:40 - 26 Jul 2014 05:46 #153509 by RyuJin
Hedgecraft is sometimes called kitchen magic...it's a blend of ritual magic, herbology, etc...practitioners are often called kitchen witches ( due to the use of ordinary household items etc) or more traditionally hedge-riders, because spiritually they ride the boundry (or hedge) between this world and the spirit world...

Golden dawn sounds familiar....of course it's been almost 24 years since then...I do remember learning that my magickal responsibility was dragon's blood...

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26 Jul 2014 18:37 #153549 by

RyuJin wrote: Hedgecraft is sometimes called kitchen magic...


Ah! Thanks. I thought that sounded familiar. I've heard the terms "kitchen witch" and "hedge witch" on various occasions, but wasn't aware of what those practices fully entailed. :) The way you've described it, I'm imagining sort of a mix of witchcraft, hoodoo, and shamanism. Cool.

It seems like you have a pretty sophisticated and diverse collection of techniques that you use then? Did you design/construct your own staff and wand?

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26 Jul 2014 22:30 #153570 by void

Arcade wrote: The way you've described it, I'm imagining sort of a mix of witchcraft, hoodoo, and shamanism.


There's also a lot of orphan folklore and superstition involved in some of it, too. It's basically the "local" everyday variant of magick. It's one of those things that, in the cultures or families it's big in, seems to be as engrained as tradition in the cultures and/or families in which it's practiced. I've spoken with a few folks that see it as "normal" and a "harmless gateway" to other practices and/or faiths.

Which brings me to a curious question for this thread, if I may--those of you who have answered, do you practice a religion as well? Does it influence your practice? Is it compatible, or is your practice secular in nature?
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26 Jul 2014 22:38 - 26 Jul 2014 22:45 #153572 by Edan
I no longer practice magick, but while a Satanist I had my own kind of brand of magick; a mix of Egyptian heka, goetian (goetic?), and other things from my interaction and work with others.

do you practice a religion as well? Does it influence your practice? Is it compatible, or is your practice secular in nature?


At the time, my answer would have been yes to practising (I was theistic then), however not of one of the big organised religions obviously. It was a very big influence on my work.

"Evil is always possible. And goodness is eternally difficult."
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27 Jul 2014 02:52 #153589 by

Edan wrote: a mix of Egyptian heka, goetian (goetic?)

Yep. Goetic magic. :) I've dabbled. Egyptian magic, on the other hand, I've always found incredibly complex. Such a detailed, intricate system. I took an Egyptology class in college and the magic and religion section of the course was very fascinating, but also made me realize how challenging any form of modern application of Ancient Egyptian practices would be. I would enjoying talking with you about this sometime.

steamboat28 wrote: Do you practice a religion as well? Does it influence your practice? Is it compatible, or is your practice secular in nature?

Technically, I'm a practitioner of Haitian Vodou (a monotheistic religion), since I attend fets (celebratory services for the ancestors) a few times a year, but as of this moment I don't consider myself a Vodouisant. I try to distance myself a little by specifying that I'm a NOLA voodoo practitioner (which, in my case, is a fairly secular practice), but the local Vodou community is full of lovely people and I like that community element sometimes, so I am often pulled in that direction. :) It definitely affects and influences my practice. I have integrated into my regular practices a decent amount of techniques, rituals, and ideas that I've learned at fets.

I also practice Germanic paganism (Anglo-Saxon Heathenry), but am not connected in any way to modern reconstructionist communities. If I were to claim a religion, I would say that this feels closest to who I am. But is it a religion without a community element? I'm not sure. Still, the spiritual connection that I feel with the Germanic deities is very strong and most definitely influences my magical practices. Passionate modern Heathens might argue that magic was rarely practiced by the ancient Germanic people, but that spiritual current can still be an inspiration (and it has been for me in a big way).

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27 Jul 2014 04:28 - 27 Jul 2014 04:32 #153590 by RyuJin
The wand just sort of appeared, I was working out on my porch and heard something fall on my air conditioner pretty hard, when I went and looked it was sitting there...I was kind of reminded of yoda's walking stick and kept it...

The staff was a small tree that had been cut down and left laying in back of the complex for over a year....everytime I walked the dog my gaze was drawn to it, so eventually I picked it up and went to work...the markings include my astrological symbol, the kanji symbols for:dragon, earth, air,fire, water. There is also a leather grip I made and the feathers are from a young bald eagle that was molting and currently resides atop a flagpole 3blocks away....


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It's hard to see but the head of the staff is carved into a dragons head...I have a philosophical lifestyle....as I dislike the concept religion has become....philosophy is flexible, religion is rigid....

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27 Jul 2014 16:11 #153618 by
Wow, RyuJin! Very nice. It's not often that I find myself flowing with the kind of drive and creativity that clearly inspired your pieces, so I genuinely appreciate your work.

RyuJin wrote: I have a philosophical lifestyle....as I dislike the concept religion has become....philosophy is flexible, religion is rigid....

Understandable. There are some religions with a greater amount of flexibility, but I don't like things carved into stone either (unless we're talking about runes). :)

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27 Jul 2014 19:07 #153633 by
I'm really glad this topic was started because it inspired me to continue my pagan studies (on a site similar to TOTJO in function and purpose but for Wiccans and other pagans). I'm not a diehard fan of the Wiccan tradition, but what I appreciate is the structure while their emphasis is in modifying the structure to suit the needs of the individual or coven. I've actually been writing my own versions of standard rituals (Open the Temple, Consecration of Tools, etc) with Jediism incorporated in as well as less emphasis on specific deities and more on the values of the Jedi and the interconnectivity life through the Force.

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28 Jul 2014 03:24 - 28 Jul 2014 03:27 #153672 by

Jamie Stick wrote: I'm really glad this topic was started because it inspired me to continue my pagan studies


Excellent. :) I think we've spoken about this, but I was a proper Pagan for just over 6 years (mostly non-traditional, though the first year I was practicing Wicca). I wasn't aware of Jediism at the time, but I can totally see how you would be able to integrate what you've talked about into your Pagan beliefs and practices (and vice-versa). That's also inspiring.

It's great that you're writing your own rituals and moving in your own direction. I found the basic framework that Wicca set out for me invaluable, but once I had a solid understanding I started traveling down my own branch of the path as well. All the best to you. I hope your journey takes you interesting places and brings you much peace and joy.
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