Jedi up

I’ve hear this (read) phrase several times .
What does “ Jedi up “mean to you ?
I know I use it very difrently than posted and intended . Even the word “savy” . I use savy as like a -replacemt for - the phrase ya know ? I’ve heard some get offended at the use and even Jedi up.
So I ask the General population - how do you use it - what do you mean by Jedi up?
Just wondering Temple !

I'm unfond of it as it's a non-informative way to indicate the other person does not meet the speaker's perception as to what a Jedi is.

I understand the intent, similar to man up, but that phrase also encourages toxic masculinity in that you have to be strong all the time and to disregard your feelings or thoughts on a matter to make the speaker think you are a man.

TL;DR: If you have time to say "jedi up" you also have the time to type out ways someone could improve their perception or attitude without the proverbial like/dislike button.

I'm with Nakis.

Nakis wrote: TL;DR: If you have time to say "jedi up" you also have the time to type out ways someone could improve their perception or attitude without the proverbial like/dislike button.

I've always made the assumption that a person should know what it means to them, like when someone says "Grow up/act your age/ext". Its essentially a reminder of what you are and what you could/should be. Solid advice can be given to those that have yet to get there to begin with, but for those that have been there before, it is a call to return to such a place. It becomes a wake up call. ;P

Arisaig wrote:

Nakis wrote: TL;DR: If you have time to say "jedi up" you also have the time to type out ways someone could improve their perception or attitude without the proverbial like/dislike button.

I've always made the assumption that a person should know what it means to them, like when someone says "Grow up/act your age/ext". Its essentially a reminder of what you are and what you could/should be. Solid advice can be given to those that have yet to get there to begin with, but for those that have been there before, it is a call to return to such a place. It becomes a wake up call. ;P

Historically, one has to wonder how helpful those "wake up" calls are.
Rather than go with "they as helpful as the person makes them/lets them be". Can we answer a bit differently

Just wondering if that is any different than a man calling a boy "sissy" or telling him to "not act like such a girl"....seems to me that using Jediism in that manner makes it toxic.

Is there such a thing as toxic jediism??

.... wow ....
that’s a can of worms there ...
I tend to use - return - the word “return “ implies nothing on subject but soley - to the individuals choice how and where - strictly to them. Is Jedi up a good term or can it be used as a good term?
I see Ari-s idea of return to your idea—- but I can also see how it can be taken the wrong way so easily . Any alternatives ?

Athena_Undomiel wrote: Just wondering if that is any different than a man calling a boy "sissy" or telling him to "not act like such a girl"....seems to me that using Jediism in that manner makes it toxic.

Is there such a thing as toxic jediism??

There could be.

Consider not only what the receiver takes it to mean, but also the intent

Something motivational can often be used to critique. I reckon the difference between the two is part the nature of the relationship between the two people, and the intent of the person saying it.
So yea, the intent is my concern.... because its one of those things which can work when used properly but most easily is not used properly. Such that some see it being used in an acceptable way (to those involved) that it can translate across to misuse easily in different circumstances.
To me it always sounded like 'shields up', such that it was part of the retinue of tools to assist in 'focus' on ones path - but that was in the parlance of it being used in a joint environment where the understandings existed to the extent of what was expected among what was happening and what was really happening among the people using it. I think the term 'trusted' relationship is too strong, but some hybrid of close relationship and working relationship, where purpose and awareness of those invovled enables a freedom to express more energetic language without it being misintepreted. But in comparison, used in the wild without that relationship - the intent becomes unclear, and therefore can fairly expected to be taken out of the intended meaning. So it probably falls aside under that 'practice empathy and perspective taking' as an offhand remark IMO.

I think if you're someone who likes the more straightforward and simple image and idea of being a jedi with many of the predictable traits that would commonly entail (like using the doctrine at your every opportunity, posting pics of yourself in robes swinging a lightsaber, and telling the community vigorously about how amazing you are at meditation and pumping iron this week and waving your warrior label to make sure everyone knows it), then the term "Jedi up" likely would be in one's accepted nomenclature.

But I think there are many in the community who don't feel that way about being a Jedi, so while, for instance, I understand it's intention to be... motivational... it tends to come off as a shallow phrase meant to dictate to someone that they should be how you think they should be (as if the dictator really knew).

This is one of many other nuances that have come out of the more radical crowd of the general community over the past several years, a product of "Jedi Pride". It can be good for those who adopt it for themselves and use it on themselves, but I'm lead to believe that most don't understand this, that when we wave our "Jedi path" in others' faces, we've kind of damaged the integrity of it.

Arisaig wrote:

Nakis wrote: TL;DR: If you have time to say "jedi up" you also have the time to type out ways someone could improve their perception or attitude without the proverbial like/dislike button.

I've always made the assumption that a person should know what it means to them, like when someone says "Grow up/act your age/ext". Its essentially a reminder of what you are and what you could/should be. Solid advice can be given to those that have yet to get there to begin with, but for those that have been there before, it is a call to return to such a place. It becomes a wake up call. ;P

I believe that the intent is as Arisaig stated above, but that it is frequently received as most other posts have described it. I do think it comes down to the relationship between the person saying it and the intended audience as Adder mentioned.

For instance, I always associate this phrase with Cabur (who I believe wrote a sermon bearing that name) and whenever he would say it I took it as a call to arms, a reminder of what I could be. In contrast I know that there are other people who could say it and I would not respond to it well, viewing it as an intended mockery like they're telling me I'm a terrible Jedi.

Thank you all for your time and effort as well as your understanding. Seems that intention of use is key here for “Jedi up” and how it’s used. Has multiple meanings. I’m still open to more views if there are any more out there .
Thanks again and may the Force we seek and serve and share find us all ... still!

I have very fond memories of the times Cabur used that phrase , but like with all phrases in all groups and communities it can become an empty phrase only to be used when you think someone is not your kind of Jedi.

Is 2018 the year I get to read a ridiculous article by someone with as much skill at giving life advice as your average door knob on "toxic toxicity"?

I'm off to buy orange juice and socks, so if you want me to spoon feed you an explanation of exactly how and why I find it an uninterestingly wrong line of thought you'll have to wait.

I think that people, especially Jedi, are way too sensitive. As is evident by all the heated debates, arguments, and discord in what is presumably supposed to be peaceful and educative. Its been a long while since I have seen Jedi act like actual Jedi...

Harsh words?

*Shrugs* its how I believe.

"Jedi Up" is a very appropriate term and applying special snowflake political sensitivities to it is only doing you all a disservice and further proves how sensitive people are.

"Jedi Up" is and was merely meant as a reminder to act what you preach. To not get dragged down by the forum politics and BE a Jedi. BE the Doctrines you claim to follow. BE the training you claim to commit to. To BE...JEDI.

Everything else is just extra baggage each individual has chosen to apply to it because people don't like being told what to do or how to behave (Even though that's part of Jedi training....improving your best and controlling your worst impulses)

Just my 2cents

Jedi up... cowboy up... man up. It's all rather demeaning. As if to say, who you are isn't good enough.

Streen wrote: Jedi up... cowboy up... man up. It's all rather demeaning. As if to say, who you are isn't good enough.

Which begs to question. When said statement was given, were you behaving in your best? Were you shining your brightest when said person told you to Jedi Up? Were you? Or are you just salty that they called you out on your darker dealings and now your forced into a spotlight of owning up to it and improving your methods or covering it up with excuses?

No one is going to be perfect.

There is an old saying "It takes a village to raise a family." - We - We are all "Family" and we all came to be a Jedi to learn and self explore as well as help others learn and self explore. If you can't take a reminder to be what you preach....then why are you here? (Here as in the Jedi Community)

Its all a matter of choice. Choose to find a positive in the instructions life gives us, or choose to be offended all the time.

Man up, Jedi up both simple tools of language that are often misused. And like so many things that get misused or misunderstood people wish to blame the tool and get rid of it or say its bad of itself rather than blame the misuse.

I'll start with man up. If I tell someone to man up it has one of two meaning depending on the situation. In one case I could just as easily be saying hey buck up/focus up you got this. In the other case its stow you stuff for now because work needs to get done. Particularly in the Navy if someone was having a hard time during operations or evolutions they would get told to man up. That does not mean you cannot feel or that you cannot show emotion. It means now is not the time and your distraction could get someone hurt. So get your head in the game and we can address the issues later when we are not going to get hurt or fail an exercise.


When it comes to Jedi up I've rarely ever used it except for myself with my diet. Meaning I tell myself hey muster up your guts and tough it out. A Jedi takes care of mind AND body so suck up the hard part of this and do what you must.
If I were to say it to another person I might as well be telling them hey remember your training I dont think you are acting/thinking clearly right now so maybe we need to chill and look at the basics here. That or it is being used the same as man up above in the first case as an affirmation that hey you are worrying when I know you got this and all you need to do is start moving forward.

So - as a family , if we see , as a family , that as we speak - to the family , if it hurts some - not all - maybe it’s time change the approach?

Hey - I’m jedi ing up - right ?

JamesSand wrote: Is 2018 the year I get to read a ridiculous article by someone with as much skill at giving life advice as your average door knob on "toxic toxicity"?

I'm off to buy orange juice and socks, so if you want me to spoon feed you an explanation of exactly how and why I find it an uninterestingly wrong line of thought you'll have to wait.

I patiently await your valued opinion in bated breath until your magnificent return from your orange juice and socks adventure...
This is the type of negative attitude that is being referenced in this topic perhaps you need to Jedi up and not be so condescending...