The Jedi Path
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For those that have not, I highly recommend that you buy and read this book if you can. The interactive elements, as well as a lot of visual aids, makes the read very enjoyable even for those (like myself) that aren't big fans of heavy reading. It really is one of the most enjoyable ways to learn about Jediism that I have come across. So please, if you haven't already, read it. You will be glad you did.
The book offers a lot of insight into Jediism as well as some interesting information on a galaxy far far away that we all know and love.
For those that have read it, what did you think about it?
If you are debating whether to read it or not, what is motivating or keeping you?
If you start reading it, feel free to leave comments on the material here as you go along. Much like you do with your Journals for the IP. I would love to hear your thoughts and offer whatever I can in response.
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I enjoy it immensely as a piece of Star Wars fiction, and admittedly it was what first started me thinking about studying "The Jedi Path" in the real world before I knew Jediism existed. Also, the lights and sounds box was fun the first few times and then I just left the book out because it was too much hassle.
In my opinion though, while the basic principles of being a Jedi in it are sound (namely that all things are connected through the force), they are too entrenched in the fictional Star Wars universe to be of any practicality for studying in the real world much beyond the idea of daily exercise, meditation and study.
If you love Star Wars and you want an entertaining read, I say go for it. If you want to learn Jediism, stick to the IP.
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Maybe we could get it over here since so many folks have been mentioning it?
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J. K. Barger wrote: there is a 200-level course over at the Institute for Jedi Realist Studies that is basically a walkthough or bookstudy for TJP.
Maybe we could get it over here since so many folks have been mentioning it?
Id be interested in seeing it (without having to jump through the course hoops) but dont think schools should cross over ike that. I think it would be more beneficial for students to actually go to Ifjrs and take the course there. seperatly.
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Dano Ori said:
Same here, so I am immensely thankful for the book and whoever took the time to make it.I enjoy it immensely as a piece of Star Wars fiction, and admittedly it was what first started me thinking about studying "The Jedi Path" in the real world before I knew Jediism existed.
I think it is crucial that we never forget where the idea of Jediism and all that has sprung from it originated. This all came from Star Wars and though it is important that we separate what is applicable and what is not we must remember that Jediism and Star Wars are linked and always will be.In my opinion though, while the basic principles of being a Jedi in it are sound (namely that all things are connected through the force), they are too entrenched in the fictional Star Wars universe to be of any practicality for studying in the real world much beyond the idea of daily exercise, meditation and study.
I have a fundamental issue with this statement. The first sentence is fine. I would say most of us love Star Wars and thus would/should read The Jedi Path for that reason alone. However, there is no one source for Jediism. If there is one source it is Star Wars, as I mentioned above. Sure, the IP is a phenomenal way to learn and understand many fundamental principles that are helpful for any Jedi (I would even argue it would be helpful for anyone, not just Jedi). Though, it is one way to learn about Jediism. No matter how great it is, it alone would not yield a great Jedi. Jedi should seek knowledge from many sources. The Jedi Path is one of the better sources, much like the IP.If you love Star Wars and you want an entertaining read, I say go for it. If you want to learn Jediism, stick to the IP.
Response to Kit: refer to Trisskar's post (below).
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Exactly Trisskar. That way of going about things will always yield better knowledge. It is important to realize that though something might be fiction, it was not written to be discarded as such (something that is stressed in the IP). There is a useful meaning, as you say, "between the lines".I use The Jedi Path as a guide for some of my lectures at Just Jedi. Its a good book. One just has to look between the lines
Response to J. K. Barger: I think that is a great idea. That was the intention of this post.
Response to Trisskar (second post): A school can learn from another school. Just as a teacher can learn from another teacher or even a student. I think any materials being transferred should be examined to make sure they are of use. However, just because it is material from a different school does not mean it can not be used here. Divisiveness will get us nowhere.
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Perhaps, but following that logic we must remember where Jedi (and Star Wars) themselves came from, which was a combination of Eastern philosophies (and samurai films) and Campbell's writings, both things which didn't spring forth from Star Wars, and are taught here (to varying degrees.)Anison wrote: I think it is crucial that we never forget where the idea of Jediism and all that has sprung from it originated. This all came from Star Wars...
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Anison wrote: Response to Kit: refer to Trisskar's post (below).
Trisskar said:Exactly Trisskar. That way of going about things will always yield better knowledge. It is important to realize that though something might be fiction, it was not written to be discarded as such (something that is stressed in the IP). There is a useful meaning, as you say, "between the lines".I use The Jedi Path as a guide for some of my lectures at Just Jedi. Its a good book. One just has to look between the lines
HAHahaha I don't think you realize how important fiction is to me. Search my journal for Kamizu's stories if you're curious (in fact, here is his introduction .) I've said often enough, he's saved my life. All of the 'people' I looked up to growing up were fictional. My daughter is named after one of them.
Now, that being said. If you read what I wrote I said I didn't find value for my daily practice. If you find value, that's all well and good, enjoy. But I would caution on lecturing other people on what they do or do not find useful or applicable (or assuming they're tossing it aside simply because it's fictional lol). Half the struggle in Jediism is finding out what works for you and what doesn't, since there's very little set mandate. And what works for one person, may or may not work for another.
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Anison wrote: I have a fundamental issue with this statement. The first sentence is fine. I would say most of us love Star Wars and thus would/should read The Jedi Path for that reason alone. However, there is no one source for Jediism. If there is one source it is Star Wars, as I mentioned above. Sure, the IP is a phenomenal way to learn and understand many fundamental principles that are helpful for any Jedi (I would even argue it would be helpful for anyone, not just Jedi). Though, it is one way to learn about Jediism. No matter how great it is, it alone would not yield a great Jedi. Jedi should seek knowledge from many sources. The Jedi Path is one of the better sources, much like the IP.
Steamboat sums up how I feel about this. I concur there are a vast number of similarities between Star Wars jedi and Jediism Jedi but, as I see it, they are separate branches from the same trunk in that Star Wars is based upon the same foundation that (TotJo) Jediism is founded on rather than TotJO being founded upon Star Wars. In much the same way that Taekwondo and Hapkido were derived from Taekkyeon and Subak (and other influences) despite popular impression that Hapkido derived from Taekwondo.
For me personally, I find benefit in defining a separation of fiction. If you are more comfortable amalgamating them then by all means do so. After all we are each on our own path even if the direction is the same. That is why I qualified my statement with "In my opinion". Far be it from me to dictate what anyone else should believe. It was exactly that approach that turned me away from mainstream religion. I do however find it interesting to see just where each of us draw the line that separates the fiction from the non-fiction as much is open to interpretation.
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J. K. Barger wrote: there is a 200-level course over at the Institute for Jedi Realist Studies that is basically a walkthough or bookstudy for TJP.
Maybe we could get it over here since so many folks have been mentioning it?
Are there objections if you or we do it over there? I mean i see lovely things on other Jedi websites and study them there as well as futher my study here
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I'm not talking about unifying all the Jedi or making everyone the same. Only a particular project with a well defined purpose that several of the Jedi groups could come together and produce. It'd be fun. I'm sure it'd be enriching. So if anyone has any ideas my PM button is right here over on the left.
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Br. John wrote: There are no objections at all. I visit other Jedi sites. Speaking personally, I hope this is the year The Order has a joint-venture with a few of the other long standing stable Jedi organizations. Having different points of view and different ways of doing things is good.
I'm not talking about unifying all the Jedi or making everyone the same. Only a particular project with a well defined purpose that several of the Jedi groups could come together and produce. It'd be fun. I'm sure it'd be enriching. So if anyone has any ideas my PM button is right here over on the left.
I know you dont Br John , i am just pointing out that we can go "there" instead of stuffing everything in OUR library loll
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