The Vision of Knighthood

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23 Jan 2015 15:56 #178450 by
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Ok guys! Next Game: Describe in one Paragraph what the "Vision" of a Jedi Knight, is.

Think of the Vision like a kind of Mission Statement. Something that the Jedi Knight is aspiring to achieve for himself, the public and community.

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23 Jan 2015 16:08 #178451 by Kit
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I can give you my personal mission statement :)

Have respect for all things living. Never lose your curiosity or enthusiasm for learning. Strive to see life through the eyes of a child. And above all, never forget how to play.

...it's a work in progress XD
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23 Jan 2015 16:09 #178452 by
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I'll be a tad cryptic.

"This is water

This is water

This is water"

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23 Jan 2015 16:18 #178455 by
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Kamizu ^_^ Cute! B)

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23 Jan 2015 16:28 #178457 by Proteus
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Be here now.

“For it is easy to criticize and break down the spirit of others, but to know yourself takes a lifetime.”
― Bruce Lee

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23 Jan 2015 17:01 #178461 by J_Roz
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Walk in Beauty in regards to all life around you. We are all Related.

"O Great Spirit, Help me always to speak the truth quietly, to listen with an open mind when others speak, and to remember the peace that may be found in silence"

Kaylee: How come you don't care where you're going?
Book: 'Cause how you get there is the worthier part.
Firefly Series

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23 Jan 2015 17:44 #178470 by
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I'll be that guy. Also, I'm not a Knight yet so this might change as I get closer. But...

I am a Jedi, an instrument of peace;

Where there is hatred I shall bring love;
Where there is injury, pardon;
Where there is doubt, faith;
Where there is despair, hope;
Where there is darkness, light;
And where there is sadness, joy.

I am a Jedi.

I shall never seek so much to be consoled as to console;
To be understood as to understand;
To be loved as to love;
For it is in giving that we receive;
It is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
And it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.

The Force is with me always, for I am a Jedi.

B)

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23 Jan 2015 17:51 #178471 by Proteus
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Kitsu Tails wrote: Ok guys! Next Game: Describe in one Paragraph what the "Vision" of a Jedi Knight, is.

Think of the Vision like a kind of Mission Statement. Something that the Jedi Knight is aspiring to achieve for himself, the public and community.


Actually, we have a Knight's Code here.

The Knight's Code wrote: A Knight is sworn to valour.
His heart knows only virtue.
His blade defends the helpless.
His word speaks only truth.
His shield shelters the forsaken.
His courage gives hope to the despairing.
His justice undoes the wicked.
His image brings peace.
His code breaks the darkness,
His legend brings light.


It is recited at each Knighting as a mission statement of sorts, on its own, for each Knight to consider and stand by.

“For it is easy to criticize and break down the spirit of others, but to know yourself takes a lifetime.”
― Bruce Lee

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TM: Alexandre Orion | Apprentice: Loudzoo (Knight)

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23 Jan 2015 17:58 #178473 by
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A Jedi knight is no different than any other rider. What should be your vision?
Doing good.
Act with honor.
Protect the innocent.
Always act with kindness.
Have value.
Defend peace and justice.
That's my opinion.

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23 Jan 2015 18:06 #178474 by
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Proteus wrote:

Kitsu Tails wrote: Ok guys! Next Game: Describe in one Paragraph what the "Vision" of a Jedi Knight, is.

Think of the Vision like a kind of Mission Statement. Something that the Jedi Knight is aspiring to achieve for himself, the public and community.


Actually, we have a Knight's Code here.

The Knight's Code wrote: A Knight is sworn to valour.
His heart knows only virtue.
His blade defends the helpless.
His word speaks only truth.
His shield shelters the forsaken.
His courage gives hope to the despairing.
His justice undoes the wicked.
His image brings peace.
His code breaks the darkness,
His legend brings light.


It is recited at each Knighting as a mission statement of sorts, on its own, for each Knight to consider and stand by.


The goal was for everyone to make up their own ;)

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23 Jan 2015 18:27 #178475 by
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Why make up our own when we have a perfectly good one? This is the Knight part, I feel like it kind of neglects the Jedi part, which is highly spiritual (for me, anyway).

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23 Jan 2015 18:45 #178476 by
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Connor L. wrote: Why make up our own when we have a perfectly good one? This is the Knight part, I feel like it kind of neglects the Jedi part, which is highly spiritual (for me, anyway).


Do you see Knight as separate from Jedi, then...Connor?

It is in my opinion that it is healthy and educative to every so often flex those brain muscles and think for yourself rather than blindly follow predetermined Codes, Rules, Vows and Visions. As Jedi we should be able to think and act of our own accord and value our own self definitions of things. If the Predefined Mission Statement matches with your own then whats the fuss about? :) Have you never grown up doing mind games before?

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23 Jan 2015 18:50 - 23 Jan 2015 18:51 #178477 by OB1Shinobi
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everything we say or do
supports a cause

always say yes
or
never say no
?
nobody ever has more than a handful of original thoughts or ideas in their whole life
everything youve ever thought has been floating around in the air since the last time someone thought it
you just picked it up
its not yours so dont be so attatched to the idea of where it came from or whose it is

If you really love me
share the noblest of your thoughts with me
i will love you back

and rememner that every time you speak you are sharing your thoughts
are the thoughts you are sharing right now
the noblest thougts of your heart?

People are complicated.
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23 Jan 2015 18:53 #178478 by
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I have, it's just not what I'm interested in right now. Though, I do see the merit.

I see the Knight as separate, yes. It is an addendum to the Jedi name. One can be a Knight. One can be a Jedi. One can be a Jedi Knight. How is that not the adding of the two terms? Master is a little different. One could be a Master alone. But Jedj Master is not the adding. It is rather an adjective to Jedi. A Jedi who is a Master.

A Knight who is a Jedi. A Jedi who is a Knight. Knights have their own conditions. At IJRS, our schema shows a difference.

One can go down the path of the Knight, which is a well-rounded Jedi with knightly qualities. But one doesn't have to to become a Jedi Master. Not everybody is meant to be a Knight. So we have Jedi Healer, Jedi Diplomat, etc. They can become Jedi Healer Masters.

I do not believe in limiting the Jedi path to the Knightly one (in terms of advancement). One can reach totality, enlightenment and be a Jedi Master without ever stepping foot in a Knight's shoes (in my mind, anyway).

This is, of course, different for everybody. I do not claim monopoly on the Path. Just my path. Lol

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23 Jan 2015 19:07 #178480 by Proteus
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Kitsu Tails wrote:

Connor L. wrote: Why make up our own when we have a perfectly good one? This is the Knight part, I feel like it kind of neglects the Jedi part, which is highly spiritual (for me, anyway).


Do you see Knight as separate from Jedi, then...Connor?

It is in my opinion that it is healthy and educative to every so often flex those brain muscles and think for yourself rather than blindly follow predetermined Codes, Rules, Vows and Visions. As Jedi we should be able to think and act of our own accord and value our own self definitions of things. If the Predefined Mission Statement matches with your own then whats the fuss about? :) Have you never grown up doing mind games before?


If somebody resonates enough with something they find, and it describes what they feel better than what they themselves come up with, there is nothing wrong with choosing it. Why limit this to making up your own, when you can either do that, or post something you have discovered elsewhere that does just as good a job?

“For it is easy to criticize and break down the spirit of others, but to know yourself takes a lifetime.”
― Bruce Lee

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TM: Alexandre Orion | Apprentice: Loudzoo (Knight)

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23 Jan 2015 19:21 #178481 by Carlos.Martinez3
Hey Kit, I'm game...


Be different be, the difference...

Chaplain of the Temple of the Jedi Order
Build, not tear down.
Nosce te ipsum / Cerca trova
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23 Jan 2015 20:19 - 23 Jan 2015 20:27 #178486 by
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Thank You Carlos B)

Connor - If your not interested in it....why comment? I'm not forcing you to participate in the exercise.

As for the rest of what you said. I am not in opposition in the belief of different paths for Jedi. Do however believe that each of those paths are in fact connected and in unison of the meaning and purpose of Jedi. It is just a different method of doing Jedi. Eveyone has a little Knight in them, a little healer, a little guardian, a little Sentinel....We each and everyone of us hold these qualities. We just choose to Master in one of them. That makes us no less or separate from: Jedi.

If I thought that you guys enjoyed this game for "Knight" I had planned to do the same for the other classes....

Proteus - Just because a person my "Resonate" with something doesn't mean it has to be the exact same tune, that is what we define as....A Cult. It is not like I am asking people to change their beliefs or start following it or that TOTJO should change theirs. Its just an exercise.
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23 Jan 2015 20:39 #178490 by Amaya
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Keep your heart open, your actions in line with your words and always..always... Laugth till your belly hurts and share your love with the world.
we are one and connected to all so just enjoy the journey, especially the twists and turns ;)

Everything is belief
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23 Jan 2015 20:53 #178493 by Carlos.Martinez3
I think the world needs to see the difference. If we r the difference, shouldn't we act like it? I think the time for the Knights and Jedi will come soon. Our time is coming, let us show that we are what has been missing all this time. Let the Force be with and in us and in everything we do

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23 Jan 2015 21:46 #178495 by
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For me the name "knight" is less about the title and more about the tradition it comes from and the idea it is built on, chivalry. As a knight, one should be expected to live by a very ideal code of conduct. A knight will be held to a much higher standard when being judged by that code of conduct. It is why the title "knight" is an honorable one that must be earned.

So as it applies to Jedi, a Jedi Knight is one who has an understanding of our ideal code of conduct and has demonstrated that they are committed to living their life accordingly. Along with the title, they also accept that they should and will be judged by a higher standard than other Jedi.

In the middle ages, the definition and moral code of a knight could vary from kingdom to kingdom. Just as it was in medieval times, the definition of "Jedi Knight" will vary from organization to organization of Jedi.

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