Can a force senstive person train themselves

Can a force senstive person train themselves in the ways of the force and lead to becoming a jedi through the way of holcrons and other itesm of that sort

Firstly, welcome to the temple How are you finding things?

Quick query, what exactly is it that you mean by 'force sensitive' and 'the ways of the force'?

If you asking movie style can we have that specific trade, then sadly I'm afraid it only exist in the movies.
Force sensitive. That's a big idea with a great answer.
What is force sensitive. Real, not movie fake.
If I believe in the Force( I totally do) how can I be sensitive to it? That is a very common question here. How do I become a part of it, how does it become a part of me. When do I feel it. Sadly, we live in real life so the only thing we Can and WILL experience is what we seek to find. Hopefully that's what you will find here. We share a lot of fan based ideas, but over time, there is noticed a connection. Some are more sensitive to the connection. How is your connection? To the Force? Check it lately? Do some pass and review, some dress right dress some good old fashioned check on your lines... see what you find friend!

I spent 18 years or so studying and practicing before I found this wonderful community. 'Progress' can be made alone (indeed some of it must be alone) but its a bit like stumbling around in the dark by yourself, rather than walking along a well-lit path. The metaphor isn't quite right but hopefully you see what I mean! Guidance and support from a like-minded community makes a huge difference in my experience

Incidentally I believe that everyone has the potential to be 'Force sensitive' and although holocrons don't exist - fortunately libraries, and all the resources of the internet do

Perhaps a bit like Loudzoo I also did decades of work in this area on my own. So much information is accessible these days its almost too much #firstworldproblems
The progress is in the doing, and for me that was meditation, explorations, experiences, contemplations and generations (of sensations). So I didn't try to do it on my own, but I did tend to ignore doing what others prescribed unless it 'felt' right with my broader spiritual application/effort.

It is my belief that, as soon as a person adopts the Jedi beliefs and cultures, they are a Jedi. Obviously you can't just say "yep, I agree with that. I'm a Jedi", you have to really believe it; which is what most people here do! So theoretically, if you are here, and believe in the Jedi way and are studying it, then you are a Jedi.

However being taught by someone or with someone's help is always a great deal easier. That is what we have appreticeships here. I believe that the IP and the apprenticeship program are layed out as they are because they are the best all round way to learn. However, we must also respect it isn't the best way for everyone!

So yes, you can teach yourself, but it may be harder. Perhaps meditate on it for a while before taking any immediate action.

Genoe Jhalam wrote: Can a force senstive person train themselves in the ways of the force and lead to becoming a jedi through the way of holcrons and other itesm of that sort

Yes a force sensitive person can train themselves because they are very intuitive. INFJ or INFP are very capable of this. (MYER.BRIGGS) I presume holocrons and other itesm refers to reading and meditation. The only obstacle to intuitive types is discipline. A Master can greatly help with this but few remain. The ego dominates this living plain. It is better to go it alone before submitting to an egotiscal guru.

Since this is in the Star Wars subforum, I suppose you mean your question in the context of fiction. In that case it depends on what you consider canon and what you mean by train themselves. Luke Skywalker was far more proficient with the Force by the time we saw him in Return of the Jedi than he was when the Empire Strikes Back credits rolled and it is not strictly implied by either film that he had been trained by another master in the meantime. Of course, he did start his training with Ben and Yoda and was at least understanding of the kind of direction he needed to go. But this again does not mean that nobody could train themselves from the ground up without any masters, though whether we pay attention to sources confirming or contradicting that is of course a matter of taste.

If you mean this outside of the fiction, I'd be curious to hear what you mean by a Force-sensitive person...

"yep, I agree with that. I'm a Jedi"

Loll that was my exact thought when i first read this site ...

a person can train them self to do anything, however this usually involves loads of trial and error...having the benefit of someone else's guidance saves on time but also can rob us of the experience gained by failing if the guide doesn't allow us to make mistakes and fail...

although it is possible to train themselves, it would be better to be trained by a jedi to avoid all tempts of the dark side.

I spent years working on learning what would or could be equated to the way of the Force.
One thing I did not know I was missing until I found TotJO is a unity of teachings and various views on the spiritual understanding. In short, learning in the group has given me a far more complete view and understanding.

It also changed what I focused on. Many things I was doing before was more of a selfish nature and less of selfless service. Which I think is more in line with Jediism and the ways of the Force than a purely self-development approach. Because, I learned more of the Force from working for others and how the connections are made/used and completed than just internalizing self-contained knowledge.

I offer this.

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https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/Clergy/115769-the-block?start=20

So, I'm new here, and know it will take time to assimilate into the Temple in all its glory, but this is an interesting topic, in an interesting forum.

My background is in theatre. Then I studied youth studies, and took a youth and spirituality class. My undergrad also included audio and video production, which gives me a technical advantage when watching a film series like Star Wars. From theatre, I know the intricate details of creating the scene, setting the mood, interpreting a script, and know that producing an enterprise that captures the hearts and minds of millions is quite a feat. In doing so, did George Lucas create a new religion? L. Ron Hubbard did.

Just as sacred scriptures are the source of beliefs and method of teaching for established religions, are the Star Wars books and movies a new realization in exploring society, people, and relationships to all around us? Is it a natural progression for those who find similar feelings, thoughts, and inspirations in what was supposed to an entertainment venture to come together and discover a deeper sense of community—the bridge from fiction to life.

I think so, and I think that is why we are here on TotJO. 2¢.

Uh... was this moved from elsewhere? It seems to be in the Star Wars section but many of the replies sound like it wasn't.

Er... I know Kyle Katarn did, but then again Kyle Katarn also assaulted several Imperial bases on his own.

I'm going to resurrect this chat because there's newfound information that could well be useful.

This thread was made 3 months before the release of "Rogue One", and therefore we didn't know about Chirrut Îmwe during this conversation until now.

Chirrut Îmwe, more commonly known as "that badass blind Force ninja dude from Rogue One", is (probably) an example of what you get if a Jedi trains themselves.

Îmwe decided to join the "guardians of the Kaiba", which is a group of Force sensitives who neither agree with the Jedi nor Sith. It's safe to say that, while he was taught the Martial arts he uses, everything else he's pretty much taught himself through faith; much like our Temple!

So yes, a Force sensitive can probably train themselves but to a very limited degree. To put it in perspective, Îmwe was probably able to teach himself that very first lesson Ben Kenobi taught Luke Skywalker on the Millennium Falcon, but go no further from there.

I don't think Chirrut Îmwe was a force sensitive, only a force faithful. I am pretty sure if you are truly force sensitive, within the context of the movies, you can train yourself to great potential. Case in point is Ray, who is obviously a force sensitive individual, has already mastered the Jedi Mind Trick as well as become pretty good with a light saber. She did this in an incredibly short amount of time. Think of what she can accomplish given more time and some effort.

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: I don't think Chirrut Îmwe was a force sensitive, only a force faithful. I am pretty sure if you are truly force sensitive, within the context of the movies, you can train yourself to great potential. Case in point is Ray, who is obviously a force sensitive individual, has already mastered the Jedi Mind Trick as well as become pretty good with a light saber. She did this in an incredibly short amount of time. Think of what she can accomplish given more time and some effort.

Perhaps some Force sensitives are more adept at others? I don't think it would need to be a binary true/false trait.

Gwinn wrote:

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: I don't think Chirrut Îmwe was a force sensitive, only a force faithful. I am pretty sure if you are truly force sensitive, within the context of the movies, you can train yourself to great potential. Case in point is Ray, who is obviously a force sensitive individual, has already mastered the Jedi Mind Trick as well as become pretty good with a light saber. She did this in an incredibly short amount of time. Think of what she can accomplish given more time and some effort.

Warning: Spoiler!

I'd tend to think he was sensitive, considering he was blind and was able to see people through the Force. Not only was he able to defeat multiple enemies, knowing where they were without vision, but he also made a reference to his perception of the Force changing around someone who was about to kill.

Perhaps some Force sensitives are more adept at others? I don't think it would need to be a binary true/false trait.

He also knew she had the Kyber stone around her neck...

Well i dont know. This is taken from the wookipedia site.

Chirrut Îmwe was a blind human male, with pale blue eyes, black hair and tan skin. Although he lacked Force abilities, Îmwe was a strong believer in it and the Jedi way, carrying a simple staff and traditionallightbow bowcaster, contrasting greatly with his partner's more pragmatic personality. His devotion to spirituality helped him overcome his blindness and become a formidable warrior.

It also says he uses his incredibly honed hearing to help him fight.