Kroviej's lightsaber question

May I ask do any Jedi in this order practice lighsaber skills ?

I do not practice "lightsaber" skills due to the fact that lightsabers do not exist and therefore have no use in my personal life. I do practice sword play though, and I guess that if lightsabers were to come into existence then I would take my sword background into practicing with a lightsaber.

I would assume Kroviej25 was refering to replicas.

I own a replica and occasionally spend some time learning saber spins. There are definatly clubs/schools out there that teach lightsaber combat if you're looking to learn. And youtube of course:P

probably true, i know theres a school that teaches swashbuckling like that of a pirate :woohoo:

Right I understood that he meant replicas and not a real lightsaber, my response was more in the sense that I don't see much point practicing how to use a lightsaber since it isn't real, just like I would find no use going to a shooting range with a plastic pistol.

If any the use I could find would be more of a meditative or personal use, as in an exercise or calming effect, but for the use of combat or self defense I see it as being pretty useless.

Sorry if this was not clear originally.

Also, I don't want to sound rude, only trying to explain why I feel your time could be better spent training in a different discipline.

I'm interested in finding someone to practice with in the Seattle area. If anyone knows about such a place, I'd love to hear about it.

Thanks,
DurgaDas

i bellieve skills in lightsaber combat could be applyed to swords and staffs just because ther not real dont mean one cant train with one the same way u would with wood swords i no of a dojo that teachs lightsaber combat and teach you how to apply it to swords for self defense

I could see it being applicable to staffs maybe because staffs can do damage from any side of the weapon, although a staff is a blunt trauma weapon where as a theoretical lightsaber would be a slashing and cutting weapon, the sword is a hard one because the sword counterpart to a lightsaber would be like a rapier most likely, but very few schools do formal training with a sword like that, most do fencing, which wouldn't cross with a lightsaber skill set well in my eyes, or katana, which is a one sided weapon and thus very different then a lightsaber. I don't know, I don't see it crossing over very well, that's all.

The combat that is unexpected, finding you unprepared, is already slipping out of your control - so makeshift weapons should always be a consideration. A straight-ish piece of thin rod-like material could be pretty common like broom handles, sticks, bars etc, and against an unarmed aggressor might help leverage some more defensive options. If they counter with wielding the same makeshift type of device then you might find most of the saber techniques could become applicable.... otherwise I think not so much, but it looks kewl and I think is great for spatial and kinesthetic training.

I've got a great looking hilt and practise lightsaber techniques also! I havent gotten around to buying the internals and blade yet. I am going to try and integrate it into my renewed interest in QiGong to tie it into meditative efforts to power up my connection to the Force, and I've been told Tai Chi has some sword work so I'm going to look into that as well.

Right I agree that it would be good to be trained to use a makeshift weapon like that, but I feel like staff training would go over better with a stick, broom handle, etc, than lightsaber training, because to train in a lightsaber correctly, would be to train with a weapon that is used to slice cut and main, not a blunt force weapon like a staff or a broom handle.

I do agree that it would be good for spatial and just overall fitness, but I do not see it as being a useful and effective thing to train in for combat, at least not in todays world. Maybe if lightsabers become real than yes, but not now, not in my eyes, I think your time can be invested better.

Tai chi does have some sword work btw adder, you should definitely look into it if you are interested!

Actually it wouldnt be bad to do as a meditative feeling. Ive been a student and teacher of the Martial arts for over 30yrs. Not all is for combat, they might have combat applications but that doesnt mean it cant also be used for other purposes. Look at fencing, I did this in school a long time ago. There really is not any real world applications on it. But people still practice it.

In my style of karate we use Kama (sickles), Tonfa, Sai, nunchuka, Bo (staff) and I am learning the Eku Kai (boat oar). The only one you might see a person use in real world is the Bo. Cause one can find a broom stick handle or something as a defensive weapon.

I've also practiced Iado on my own which is the art of drawing of the sword and some kendo techniques. I do all this for meditation reasons. The swashbuckle school i mentioned is true and I can see why people would take it. It looks fun and it gets people to doing things.

MTFBWYA!
brian

Yeah see I can agree with you on all of that, I don't want anyone to think I'm totally dismissing it as being useful because I'm not I am sure there are uses and benefits from training in lightsaber. I was strictly talking about it in a combat or defense situation being pretty useless.

Ultimately though I feel like you can train in any discipline out there and there will be great benefits from it for the mind, soul, overall body. It's always a good thing to train regardless of the discipline.

Hmmm I wonder if electromagnetic blades (rod) could be produced. Given enough power and switchable pole it could make for some non-traditional sword techniques. You'd have blades resisting or attracting each other and a strong enough field might mean you could use the blade to move metal objects without touching them in certain circumstances. Just thinking out loud again but magnetism is a fundamental physical force so it might have some relevance to a broader Force and if that could be incorporated into the spiritual and ceremonial sword practise it might add more legitamcy (not that its needed) to including such things into the spiritually focused Jediism.

Training with swords to simulate lightsabers is fine and dandy, but hardly a good substitute, I dont mean to sound rude but the blade of a lightsaber is completely weightless, you would need a whole different kind of fighting style with it, and a lightsaber can cut through anything, so you would have to train for years to avoid self inflicted injuries

Gedrith wrote: Training with swords to simulate lightsabers is fine and dandy, but hardly a good substitute, I dont mean to sound rude but the blade of a lightsaber is completely weightless, you would need a whole different kind of fighting style with it, and a lightsaber can cut through anything, so you would have to train for years to avoid self inflicted injuries

I guess it depends on 'why' the person is training. If it's to be able to wield an actual lightsaber then your right because of those reasons (and also since lightsaber's do not exist!). If the person's intention through training is something different though, then it might not matter that the blade has weight nor cannot cut effortlessly. On the starwars.com site it says "To carry a lightsaber is an example of incredible skill and confidence, dexterity and attunement to the Force" and I personally think sword/sabre training is one way to become better attuned to the Force as well.

Yeah training in lightsabers is fine and dandy, but hardly a good substitute for a sword . I mean swords are real and exist, so I think we should be able to agree that training with a sword is more practical and applicable than training in a lightsaber. Also people that train with swords definitely train hard not to hit themselves with their own sword gedrith, so I don't see why you think that a swordsman would chop himself up with a lightsaber that doesn't make a whole lot of sense, plus if you watch the actual lightsaber forms from the movies, they are all totally similar and based off of other weapon forms.

I know Coryduran but my point was that if a weightless lightsaber can cut through anything effortlessly it would be much easier to lop your arm off than with a heavy metal sword that takes some degree of effort. Sorry if you were confused.

I wasn't confused I just disagree with your point. A well trained swordsman would be able to use a lightsaber pretty well without too much additional training. That's how I feel.

Gedrith wrote: I know Coryduran but my point was that if a weightless lightsaber can cut through anything effortlessly it would be much easier to lop your arm off than with a heavy metal sword that takes some degree of effort. Sorry if you were confused.

They are a devestating close in weapon idea. One mistake and you've sliced yourself in half!!!! I think the practise in real terms for Jediism best represents a meditative human kinetic and spatial physical regime like Tai Chi etc, and it just happens to have some limited combative potential in the real world as a sword technique but the kinesiology aspect and spatial awareness helps improve fighting ability in all disciplines.

Plus the fact the blade lights up means sparring can be done in a lower light room which further tests ones sense of balance and awareness.

i use a blindfold to work on my awareness...by robbing myself of sight i have to depend on my other senses picking up the slack...

as to a trained swordsman using a lightsaber...i'd have to say that no matter their skill level they would still need some time to get accustomed to the lack of weight in the blade...of course higher skilled people would need less time to adapt but they'd still have to adapt regardless...i've trained with fencing swords(rapiers, etc) broadswords, sabers, katanas, etc...and they all act differently due to weight