Ivan Pavlov

Ivan Pavlov was a Russian physiologist whose research on the physiology of digestion led to the development of the first experimental model of learning, Classical Conditioning. Most of his research was gathered studying salivating dogs.

What would he think about us and our cell phones today?

WOW! I'm a little surprised about the 0 response. I think it obviouse how our cells phones strongly condition our response in almost any situation we are in to the point of addictive behavior.

Maybe it's just me that feels the knee jerk grabbing of the cell when it rings is it controling me rather me it?

lol, I missed this Rickie...

But, I WAS thinking this very thing a short while ago...

I was across the shop, and the phone started ringing, and I automatically stopped what I was doing and headed toward it, thinking I should hurry or they will hang up...

Then I realized it was probably a salesman, and without running, I wouldnt make it in time, lol...

And, as it was probably a salemans, and he isnt worth my RUNNING...:lol:...

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While I am always on my phone, I do it consciously...

When I am busy, my phone ringing is a distraction, I am not dependent upon it, although I do choose it often for 'time killing', lol...

When I worked at Walgreen's, I was helping a customer...

The photo manager told me I had a call one day, and I said, I was busy...

He said, "Its the store manager", with a hint of 'you better take this'...

I said, "my job is to take care of customers, not talk on the phone, if you tell the manager I am helping someone, anbd will come find her as soon as I am done, I am sure she will be fine with it"

She was, and actually commended me on it...

One of the things that I feel offends is you are talking to someone and they have to answere their cell to tell the caller they will call them back.

OR this one: They put you on hold to take another call like the are soooo much more important thsn you.

A cell phone rang once in church, the priest looked up in the direction of the ring and said, "It better be god."

Ring the bell and people respond automatically. I just wonder if people know they are being conditioned and controlled.

Who is really in charge here?

I worked at Target for three years (I think, retail work all starts to blend LOL) and if I am in a Target and an employee's radio beeps I still reach for where I use to clip mine. :laugh:

The minute we give into impulse, it is the "ego", I would argue...

By distracting us, and not allowing us to pay attention to the moment, thinking there is something more important then NOW...

Ego wrote: Surely, whoever is on the phone is more important than what I am doing right now, regardless of what it is, so I will focus on the possibilities, instead of the realities..

i meant to answer sooner rickie but then i got a call

or i thought i did; turned out it was a phantom ring

By distracting us, and not allowing us to pay attention to the moment, thinking there is something more important then NOW

We read/hear about this all the time, stay in the now. Focus is about staying in the now by avoiding distractions. Life is happening now. What you do now sets the stage for the future. Kinda like being on the internet at work. :whistle:

employee's radio beeps I still reach for where I use to clip mine.

Classic conditioning.

Surely, whoever is on the phone is more important than what I am doing right now, regardless of what it is,

IMHO Must not be engaged in anything worthwhile to think that

so I will focus on the possibilities, instead of the realities

Really nothing wrong with that but do you stay in a holding pattern waiting for the phone (opportunity) to ring/knock?

OB1Shinobi wrote: i meant to answer sooner rickie but then i got a call

or i thought i did; turned out it was a phantom ring

:laugh: :lol:

Rickie wrote:

By distracting us, and not allowing us to pay attention to the moment, thinking there is something more important then NOW

We read/hear about this all the time, stay in the now. Focus is about staying in the now by avoiding distractions. Life is happening now. What you do now sets the stage for the future. Kinda like being on the internet at work. :whistle:

Yes and no... :lol:..

Its why I "disappear" sometimes, my physical world has more "in my face" demands, and sometimes i half write a post, only tonleave it for 3-4 hours, then forget my point...

I talk to very few using G+, and sometimes, in the middle of having a conversation, I must go...

Surely, whoever is on the phone is more important than what I am doing right now, regardless of what it is,

IMHO Must not be engaged in anything worthwhile to think that

if you notice, I was quoting my ego, which thinks anything that supports itself is important....

Phone ringing = someone needs me (to answer)....

Better see who it is...

:lol:.....

so I will focus on the possibilities, instead of the realities

Really nothing wrong with that but do you stay in a holding pattern waiting for the phone (opportunity) to ring/knock?

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Nope, just showing me ego's thinking...

I love when people groan, as they answer the phone, like its an inconvenience, but they must...

The only must I've found is, "if we are born, we must die"...

Everything else is choice....

Choose wisely...

I'm not picking on your ego. Just chatting.

The only must I've found is, "if we are born, we must die"...

Taxes?

Everything else is choice....

Even after your a married man?

Choose wisely...

Happyness or right?

Especially then? :laugh:

lol...

Ah, lol... I missed it, haha.....

Well, I though you missed it, lol.....

Nope, even taxes...

Jestor wrote:
Nope, even taxes...

THATS NOT WHAT RYUJIN TOLD ME

paying taxes is the most favorable option....

pay taxes or go to prison.....the irs is the new king george.....

after a stint in a maximum security brig and a couple of runs in county.... I HATE CAGES enough to simply take it up the @$$ from the irs....

so yeah it's a choice....just not a pleasant one...... :sick:

I used to feel a lot like one of Pavlov's dogs/mice when I had Facebook. I don't use social media now (I only have g+ so I can use hangouts/leave feedback on Google store) and only when I gave up Facebook did I realise how much it sucked me in. It worries me how much kids are 'jacked in' to the net, we call it normal but it can look a lot like addiction.

You can be addicted to anything.

TOTJO is social media.

I answer my phone when it rings because all of five people have the number, and if im getting a call its important.

Conditioning, and addiction, are not the same things.

Training is conditioning.

People here try to condition themselves to handle there environment.

Meditation, for example,is a method to condition yourself to deal with stimuli in a specific way.

Toilet training is a form of conditioning.

The difference is, people tend to think whats important to them does not fit in a specific category.

Still, its not different, the only difference, is what you think is important and what isnt, and that, is something you have conditioned yourself to think.

Facebook isnt a problem

If its a problem for you...Well, thats conditioning,

You can condition yourself one way, or another.

Everyone thinks there special, perhaps on the outside looking in, but the world is but a small marble in the cosmos and were all on the same wheel.

I didn't say conditioning was addiction... but if children are not able to give up their phone, internet etc for a short period of time that's a lot like addiction. The number of radio and tv news reports and research into addiction in teenagers suggests it's a problem.

Couldn't agree more Edan. It struck me the other day, on the tram home from work. Everyone was sat there staring at their phones. When I say staring, I mean for the 20 minutes of the journey they were solidly staring at screens and tapping; and when I say everyone, I mean almost literally each and every person. It was utterly bizarre, but I suppose that's the way things are now. I thought it was odd, and sort of sad in equal measure. Everyone has to be constantly connected to everything now, it's weird, and does no good for the already short attention spans people seem to have, I think.