Can Good Create Evil?

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07 Dec 2021 15:17 #364551 by ZealotX
Simple question:

Can Good Create Evil?
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07 Dec 2021 16:03 - 07 Dec 2021 16:04 #364556 by Loudzoo
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07 Dec 2021 16:58 - 07 Dec 2021 16:59 #364557 by River
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"Create" is an interesting word...

My first thought was yes, because sometimes we try to do good but we were misguided, or misjudge, or just make mistakes, and it turns out pretty messed up. But then, is that really good creating the evil or did evil step in a perpetuate itself somehow...? Honestly I just get confused from there.

I think some of the problem I'm having in sorting my thoughts about this is that I don't really see good and evil as being separate enough to be able to consider them in this way. Sometimes my good can certainly be someone else's evil, and in that sense good creates evil (and vice versa). I'm just not sure good and evil are distinct enough from each other for me to say that they exist without the other in the first place.
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08 Dec 2021 05:18 #364585 by Gisteron
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Haha, how is that a "simple question"? There are so many subtleties here! For all four words one can ask just what is even meant by them in this context, or for that matter, what is meant by the whole...

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08 Dec 2021 15:27 #364593 by ZealotX
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River wrote: "Create" is an interesting word...

My first thought was yes, because sometimes we try to do good but we were misguided, or misjudge, or just make mistakes, and it turns out pretty messed up. But then, is that really good creating the evil or did evil step in a perpetuate itself somehow...? Honestly I just get confused from there.

I think some of the problem I'm having in sorting my thoughts about this is that I don't really see good and evil as being separate enough to be able to consider them in this way. Sometimes my good can certainly be someone else's evil, and in that sense good creates evil (and vice versa). I'm just not sure good and evil are distinct enough from each other for me to say that they exist without the other in the first place.


What role does intent play? Can you be or do evil by mistake?
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08 Dec 2021 16:51 - 08 Dec 2021 16:51 #364601 by River
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ZealotX wrote:
What role does intent play? Can you be or do evil by mistake?


I know this doesn't answer your question, but I don't know the answer. I don't even know if there is an answer. I'm not good at wrestling with the complexities of what ifs, but I also felt that I should respond and not just leave your question hanging.

So, I don't know if evil can happen on accident or if it's all about intent. I'm not sure it matters, for me and how I live anyway. What is, is. I do my best in a given moment and I trust that others are doing their best in a given moment, and we will do our best to deal with whatever the outcome may be.
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09 Dec 2021 11:31 #364614 by Wescli Wardest

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. ;)

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09 Dec 2021 11:51 #364615 by Edan
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Wescli Wardest wrote:
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. ;)


It's funny you picked a quote, I was going to go with

'All it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing'.

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09 Dec 2021 17:59 #364617 by Lewis22
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I would like to offer you a reflection in connection with the proposed sentence.
Once I asked a great and recognized Christian Catholic Priest if God, being omnipotent, could destroy evil and therefore have only good. He replied that being God immensely good, he could not do an evil deed by "destroying" something.
Certainly in this summary answer there are many implications and theological errors.
In a pantheistic vision, perhaps the two things, good and evil, must necessarily coexist, such as light and dark, heat and cold, and so on.
Life is always changing and the balance between 2 things is always in the hands of humanity, with our individual actions.

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09 Dec 2021 21:56 #364627 by Kobos
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I would offer the opposite of this question can: Evil create Good?

Sometimes, it's not so easy as labeling good and evil. It's always a perspective thing.

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I've seen a good man sin
I've seen a tough man cry
I've seen a loser win
And a sad man grin
I heard an honest man lie (uh)
I've seen the good side of bad
And the downside of up
And everything between"-Everlast

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