Thoughts/reflections about Revanism

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14 Dec 2019 16:48 - 14 Dec 2019 16:49 #347260 by Kraz
What is your thoughts about revanism (the ideology of Darth Revan)?

Beneath is both of the "Revanite Codes" that exists:

"The “True Revanite” Code
Without emotion, there is no compassion.
Without peace, there is no rest.
Without ignorance, there is no learning.
Without knowledge, there is no foundation.
Without passion, there is no beauty.
WIthout serenity, there is no contemplation.
Without death, there is no life.
WIthout the Force, there is no one.
WIthout the Dark Side, there is no ambition.
Without the Light Side, there is no temperance."

&

"The Revanite Code

There is no light without the dark.
Through passion, I gain focus.
Through knowledge, I gain power.
Through serenity, I gain strength.
Through victory, I gain harmony.
There is only the Force."

(both gathered from: thereisonlytheforce.obsidianportal.com/w...s/the-gray-jedi-code )

I think its a though topic. On one point, I see that the Codes seems very "moderate" and more open and human, but at the same time it also opens up for the corruption by the dark side. I guess his title is "Darth", after all... But seriously; is it a Grey Jedi"-thing, or is it a Dark Side-ideology? Because these two Codes that you see above seems much more like Grey Jedi to me than Dark Side. You follow what I mean?

Another issue is that Revan himself changes his ideological positions once in a while (I dont know the details about this or just what his ideological positions is at the different times of life), so that just confuses things even more...

What are peoples thoughts about Revanism?

The Gray Jedi Code (Leor Danal’s Final Code):
"Flowing through all, there is balance.
There is no peace without a passion to create.
There is no passion without peace to guide.
Knowledge blinds without the strength to act.
Power blinds without the serenity to see.
There is freedom in life.
There is purpose in death.
The Force is all things and I am the Force."
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14 Dec 2019 17:01 #347261 by Rainbow Firefly
I agree that it looks more like Grey Jedi philosophy than Dark Side. Because we can see here a kind of harmony between light and darkness, a logical connection between them, while a true Dark Side follower usually concentrate on the darkness only.
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14 Dec 2019 17:10 #347262 by Kraz
And what do you think is the positive/negative influences Revanism possilby could have in comparison to Jediism? What are your thoughts about it as a Code to live by?

The Gray Jedi Code (Leor Danal’s Final Code):
"Flowing through all, there is balance.
There is no peace without a passion to create.
There is no passion without peace to guide.
Knowledge blinds without the strength to act.
Power blinds without the serenity to see.
There is freedom in life.
There is purpose in death.
The Force is all things and I am the Force."
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14 Dec 2019 22:57 #347267 by Jake Nislan
I personally think there is no practical difference between Jediism and Revanism. It seems to me that Revanism is a variation on the Grey Jedi code, and many modern Jediists, I for one being one already live by this principle. However for the ones following the original Jedi code I think that the only difference is that they only focus on the light and are more wary of the negative emotions that can corrupt ones mind. I don't think there's a negative or positive difference, they're both different ways of understanding the same path as is also stated in our doctrine.

Flowing through all, there is balance
There is no peace without a passion to create
There is no passion without peace to guide
Knowledge stagnates without the strength to act
Power blinds without the serenity to see
There is freedom in life
There is purpose in death
The force is in all things and I am the force

- Novice of Temple of The Jedi Order

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14 Dec 2019 23:04 #347268 by Jake Nislan
Also liking the code, so I might steal it if you don't mind :laugh:

Flowing through all, there is balance
There is no peace without a passion to create
There is no passion without peace to guide
Knowledge stagnates without the strength to act
Power blinds without the serenity to see
There is freedom in life
There is purpose in death
The force is in all things and I am the force

- Novice of Temple of The Jedi Order

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15 Dec 2019 08:27 #347281 by Adder
My brain works differently, so I had to rewrite the later one to get anything that I liked;

'There is no light in the dark.
There is only the Force.
Through passion, I give focus to it.
Through knowledge, I gain power from it.
Through serenity, I gather strength for it.
Through victory, I grant harmony face of it.
There is only the Force.'

A bit dark and 'burning delusion' but hey, why not. He is a darkee.

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15 Dec 2019 08:58 #347282 by Kraz
By all means do - sharing is caring! :D

The Gray Jedi Code (Leor Danal’s Final Code):
"Flowing through all, there is balance.
There is no peace without a passion to create.
There is no passion without peace to guide.
Knowledge blinds without the strength to act.
Power blinds without the serenity to see.
There is freedom in life.
There is purpose in death.
The Force is all things and I am the Force."

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15 Dec 2019 09:04 #347283 by Kraz
Thank you very much for your reflections! :)

Very cool! So, theres aknowledgment for that its "many" ways to Rome (if not all?)?

Do you know if the Temple thinks there are limits to "which road" you undertake (thinking of all the different kinds of Jedi-resembling Codes, etc.) that could be beneficial or non-beneficial?

Where can I read more about whats stated in the principles? Do you refer to the principles stated on the front page?

The Gray Jedi Code (Leor Danal’s Final Code):
"Flowing through all, there is balance.
There is no peace without a passion to create.
There is no passion without peace to guide.
Knowledge blinds without the strength to act.
Power blinds without the serenity to see.
There is freedom in life.
There is purpose in death.
The Force is all things and I am the Force."

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15 Dec 2019 09:12 #347284 by Kraz
Hehe, nice one! ^^

Me myself only edit the last part. Instead of the original: "Through victory, I gain harmony.", I switch it to become: "Through harmony, I gain victory.".

I think maybe that last part of it is one of the main things that categorise it as "Dark Side", since the Dark Side got more focus on the materialistic conditions. So, in order to try to make it a little more "Jedi-like", I edited it that way you see above so that the inner harmony is whats conditions the materialistic situation, instead of the opposite :)

The Gray Jedi Code (Leor Danal’s Final Code):
"Flowing through all, there is balance.
There is no peace without a passion to create.
There is no passion without peace to guide.
Knowledge blinds without the strength to act.
Power blinds without the serenity to see.
There is freedom in life.
There is purpose in death.
The Force is all things and I am the Force."
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19 Dec 2019 19:47 - 19 Dec 2019 19:48 #347437 by Kraz
Any Knights here on the forum who would like to take a stance on the matter?

Would be interesting to know what a Jedi Knight thinks of Revanism.

The Gray Jedi Code (Leor Danal’s Final Code):
"Flowing through all, there is balance.
There is no peace without a passion to create.
There is no passion without peace to guide.
Knowledge blinds without the strength to act.
Power blinds without the serenity to see.
There is freedom in life.
There is purpose in death.
The Force is all things and I am the Force."
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