Can't be a Jedi if you support Trump...?
Deimos wrote: I don't think that was part of her point. She's left anyway, so what's said is said.
Her point was to sow dissent, and make fools of anyone she could, and the banning is because she's playing a game by leaving beforehand...
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
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Can we Jedi and be opposite every one else ? Thats kinda the point right ? To share and learn?
VixensVengeance wrote: When sides become this polarized war is the only option. One must violently dominate the other in order to achieve any peace. We have tried here, many times to settle the waters, smoke the peace pipe, give concessions and still those that oppose us bring war to our doorstep by calling us the aggressors, the nazis. And they call for our complete and total suppression.
Note that those calling you "the aggressors" are a minority. The majority are not calling for your suppression.
It does not follow then that you should conclude that war is the only option. Furthermore, in an online community, victory does not look like "domination". Being able to effectively communicate and persuade others to truly consider your point of view is how you achieve victory in this setting.
VixensVengeance wrote: But I ask you, how is their form of oppression in denying nazis to speak any less fascist than the nazis themselves?? I ask you, no i implore you, to consider your positions here and try to see reason or war will be the result. And I will be on that front line, win or lose like my ancestors, I will fight to the death for nazis to speak their mind no matter the cost
The root problem I continue to see is quick judgments made on group identity. While I think that any person who would publicly wear a Nazi swastika is an idiot, I continue to wonder "how did that individual arrive to that place? And what does he or she truly want?". If the actual answer is "to kill Jews (or any other person based on the idea of racial supremacy)", then that person is dangerous. But I can appreciate that the answer is sometimes that these people are fed up with being called out as privileged and made the enemy when all they want is to be able to say "I am white" without an avalanche of condemnation following.
As Jedi, we believe in freedom of speech and of association. So people are free to gather and think whatever they want. We should hold people liable only for their actions.
“The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.” - Joe Klaas
- Uzima Moto
Because, first of all, fascism is an economic system. Which is historically backed with nationalistic ideology.. but it's just another form of Socialism tbh.. the centralized control or regulation of the means of production.. as opposed to it being decentralized and controlled by the general population.. IMO all forms of centralized control are inherently oppressive and unnecessary..
That being said, "in passion, I seek control".. and in passionate discussions such as this, people should step back and really observe themselves and their actions and evaluate their effectiveness at resolving the issue at hand.. mainly that, for whatever reason, folks think we are at risk of a Fascist Takeover. Complete with concentration camps (those border facilities lack a few qualities to be considered Death Camps).. as if the recent actions of the Federal Govermnent are new... a govermnent that has allowed people to bomb innocent foreigners, caged children, attacked whistleblowers, assassinated foreign/domestic challengers, or otherwise terrorize those who are "threats" to its interests long before Trump was put in office..
Trump is the least of our worries. He, like most presidents before him, is a tool for certain powerful interests. Whether he inwardly knows it or not..