Can't be a Jedi if you support Trump...?

RyuJin wrote: Where is your proof there wasn't?...i have personally spoken with survivors of these camps, i have seen military footage of them...

Jews did die. That's entirely true. 6 million? No. Was it a "holocaust", certainly not. Were Jews gassed by the millions? No.

I really wish people would stop saying "oh the poor Jews" and focus on the Holocausts that actually happened, like in Russia... and like with the First Nations people, and the disgusting thing with the residential schools and all those graves.

Deimos wrote: So why the fighting? If you aren't trying to change minds or push a point, then what are you fighting for? And if you are, given the audience, then it's the wrong way to do it.

Why the fighting? Anger, a sense of being right, and a sense of being wronged.

Okay, and you are well within your right to feel that way. But why metaphorically crap on those who defended on your friend? Cuz that seems to be what you are effectively doing from where I stand.

Deimos wrote: Okay, and you are well within your right to feel that way. But why metaphorically crap on those who defended on your friend? Cuz that seems to be what you are effectively doing from where I stand.

Personally, I hate Kobos. He just rubs me wrong. As for the rest, you know how I feel about censorship... and also, I can't stand the insane war between left and right at this point. People have forgotten to freaking think.

Okay, then why be here if it does not serve what you desire? It sounds similar to masochism, but all joking aside, it seems counterproductive if this Temple does not have what you seek.

Deimos wrote: Okay, then why be here if it does not serve what you desire? It sounds similar to masochism, but all joking aside, it seems counterproductive if this Temple does not have what you seek.

I want to see this place split in two and fall. There, I said it. Originally, I didn't feel this way. Now? I do. By splitting, the tension will be relieved and what is left will either be enough to succeed it and grow into something worth having or it won't. FA experienced a similar break, though it hasn't recovered and likely won't. Perhaps I'm wrong? Time will tell.

But why though? I don't understand the end goal in how it betters people.

Deimos wrote: But why though? I don't understand the end goal in how it betters people.

Have you ever observed a forest burn down, only for a healthier one to grow in its place?

Considering I don't think I'd find enjoyment in it no.

Deimos wrote: But why though? I don't understand the end goal in how it betters people.

Have you ever seen an order split, burn down, only for the spit off portion to develop into something successful? What about governments?

No not really. I prefer to fix something instead of destroy it.

Deimos wrote: Considering I don't think I'd find enjoyment in it no.

You don't have to find enjoyment in it. I personally do... in both the destruction and birth.

Deimos wrote: No not really. I prefer to fix something instead of destroy it.

Some building's aren't fixable or aren't worth being fixed, since there is more gain in destroying them. Familiar with that reference? Do you know anything about building demolition? Look at the One World Trade Center. It only exists because the old buildings were destroyed.

But look at the way it happened. I doubt it was the end goal to have it rebuilt.

Deimos wrote: But look at the way it happened. I doubt it was the end goal to have it rebuilt.

Plenty of controversy on that one. Either way, I find the new building more beautiful and especially more precious, considering all the death surrounding it.

Okay you have a point. I personally say if it breaks, let it happen naturally. Doesn't mean I can't try to save it provided it even needs saving.

Deimos wrote: Okay you have a point. I personally say if it breaks, let it happen naturally. Doesn't mean I can't try to save it provided it even needs saving.

Saving such a thing is like saving someone on permanent life support from a devastating category 5 storm. Nothing useful.

Phoenix Vidensia wrote:

Deimos wrote: No not really. I prefer to fix something instead of destroy it.

Some building's aren't fixable or aren't worth being fixed, since there is more gain in destroying them. Familiar with that reference? Do you know anything about building demolition? Look at the One World Trade Center. It only exists because the old buildings were destroyed.

Leaving this out?

Casualties of the September 11 attacks

Phoenix Vidensia wrote:

Deimos wrote: Okay, then why be here if it does not serve what you desire? It sounds similar to masochism, but all joking aside, it seems counterproductive if this Temple does not have what you seek.

I want to see this place split in two and fall. There, I said it. Originally, I didn't feel this way. Now? I do. By splitting, the tension will be relieved and what is left will either be enough to succeed it and grow into something worth having or it won't. FA experienced a similar break, though it hasn't recovered and likely won't. Perhaps I'm wrong? Time will tell.

Thank you for your confession. As you have publicly stated your intent to harm and disrupt The Order you are banned from the site.

I don't think that was part of her point. She's left anyway, so what's said is said.