Ways to experience an alien invasion

Rosalyn J wrote: The Fossa aren't attacking right now. We are too busy calling members of our own species aliens. We haven't warranted the type of alien traffic that would lead to an invasion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5ABUJRGZKg

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: Or they setup shop on mars but then decide that mars is not as cool as earth and they can have a better life on earth and so they start crossing the mars earth boarder illegally in hopes that they get a better life and then they start interbreeding with humans to produce anchor babies and the next thing you know we are all aliens because we never setup a boarder wall!!!!

Been hanging out with Donald Trump too much lately? Bring me a Big Mac haha.

Manu wrote:
Been hanging out with Donald Trump too much lately? Bring me a Big Mac haha.

All I can say is I hope hes still the president when the aliens come because the Space Force will kick ass!!!

I am up for more discussions on the idea of it. Let me know what you think

Manu wrote: TotJO should definitely have a “Useless hypotheticals” subforum under the Humor category. :laugh:

Superior alien invading race? We are going to be eradicated, eaten, or enslaved.

Or maybe they infiltrate government and take over financial systems and resources and use capitalism to legally own us.

Your breakfast is getting cold.

Ok.

What do you base this on anyway?

Who knows what they would do?

So pretty much anyone who wants to hypothesize something is considered useless because yourself don't agree with it?

Kind of arrogant if you ask me. It's called a discussion form. You discuss. You know, about stuff?

Yabuturtle wrote:
So pretty much anyone who wants to hypothesize something is considered useless because yourself don't agree with it?

Kind of arrogant if you ask me. It's called a discussion form. You discuss. You know, about stuff?

Seems your doing the same thing. You are disparaging manus idea just because you don't like it. As the renowned conspiracy theorist you are you should be well aware of the lizard men that have infiltrated the govt as well as the secret alien races that are already working with our govt to enslave mankind. So why all this talk of an invasion. The invasion is already under way just as you have described. The ways of force have not worked so now they are taking us over by putting us to sleep through subterfuge. ... right?

Yabuturtle wrote:

Manu wrote: TotJO should definitely have a “Useless hypotheticals” subforum under the Humor category. :laugh:

Superior alien invading race? We are going to be eradicated, eaten, or enslaved.

Or maybe they infiltrate government and take over financial systems and resources and use capitalism to legally own us.

Your breakfast is getting cold.

Ok.

What do you base this on anyway?

Who knows what they would do?

So pretty much anyone who wants to hypothesize something is considered useless because yourself don't agree with it?

Kind of arrogant if you ask me. It's called a discussion form. You discuss. You know, about stuff?

I'm sorry Yabuturtle, I didn't mean to be offensive.

I'm just musing at the fact that we tend to get caught up in these super long conversations about stuff that may never happen, or that we have almost no data about anyway to make any meaningful decision about it, while there is so much to do in terms of personal development and positively impacting society (you know, the stuff TotJO stands for).

Not that I am above it. Of course not, I do it as much as anybody else, which is why it amuses me. I like laughing at myself. Didn't mean to imply I was mocking you specifically only because you were the OP of this particular thread.

I think we err if we automatically assume that a hypothesized visit from extraterrestrial aliens would be an invasion.

Of course, it could be so. Perhaps the first interstellar travelers we collectively encounter might be as acquisitive and violent as many humans with whom we are familiar. But there are other possibilities, too. Members of an alien species could have developed a culture that nurtures individual compassion, or they could be united in some kind of hive mind that makes causing harm to a member of their own species or a similar one inconceivable. They might just think we are an interesting curiousity, like we would regard a pack of purple kangaroos, and leave us after only a short visit. They might be galactic traders, willing to provide us with fantastic medical devices and mind-boggling computers in exchange for large quantities of Snickers bars, and Ti-D-Bol

For our part, it may be that despite our fears, we have an almost subconscious understanding that an alien culture is more likely to be wise and kind than our own. As someone once said, there's a reason that all of our equipment employed in the search for intelligent life in the universe is pointed somewhere else.

There is no need to discuss this possibility further. Its pretty obvious aliens have been here many centuries and in fact are already in the act of invasion. The thing we need to be talking about now is how to stop these diabolical creatures from deep space!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA9k3n-mIDo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjLkMJ_7VcU

It's fine and I respect that so thank you. This was really more of a discussion on what to do in case it does happen which I think it likely will eventually in out future given our vast universe, assuming there's not another universe out there and we are one of many dimensions ect. And the more advanced one gets, the likely hood we are to encounter them and some may be hostile.

I understand it won't be everyone's cup of tea and people (Like Kyrin) assume that if I believe in one or more theories I believe in all of them. For all I know aliens are already here but I can't be certain but honestly would not be surprised due to how many secrets our government keeps, the abductions that have happened, roswell ect. Who knows if it is lizards, greys ect.

I don't think every alien contact however will be hostile and some will be like other people you get good and bad here and there.

Although no matter what it may be or how, I sometimes wonder what humanity really would do. Would we like other people surrender in order to preserve our species or just fight until the last human is alive or run away from it. It's really more of a study and discussion of how humans really would reach to such a force. It has not happened but it also does not mean it will never happen either.

Humanity would probably first crash, how that would look I don't know. Some would probably surrender and be whatever. Some would hide, then organize and fight back. In the end we either get wiped out, enslaved or we have a years long war until our technology catches up in order to liberate ourselves. This is essentially the natural order of life forms interacting with each other. Technology levels play no role in the natural pattern of strife in all life forms. One wins out, one adapts, other adapts and evolves, repeat until there is no life left.

We often over look this natural pattern because we focus on our own impact on the environment. Just by existing we do kill things off, whether by pollution, expansion to even just bacteria and viruses evolving within us and spreading to other species. Honestly, an air borne virus from dogs could literally kill 98% of us. The rest evolve, reorganize and the species goes on repopulating in a different social form. This is without technology so adding tech just manipulates the mechanics not the end game.

In the end our species would continue to fight to survive, what that looks like is questionable. I like to think it would be like Independence Day.......Jeff Goldblum breaks computers on a system that in no way makes any sense being compatible with alien computers and then we all mop them up. However, Jeff is getting old so low probability now.

Much Love, Respect and Peace,
Kobos

Yabuturtle wrote: It's fine and I respect that so thank you. This was really more of a discussion on what to do in case it does happen which I think it likely will eventually in out future given our vast universe, assuming there's not another universe out there and we are one of many dimensions ect. And the more advanced one gets, the likely hood we are to encounter them and some may be hostile.

I understand it won't be everyone's cup of tea and people (Like Kyrin) assume that if I believe in one or more theories I believe in all of them. For all I know aliens are already here but I can't be certain but honestly would not be surprised due to how many secrets our government keeps, the abductions that have happened, roswell ect. Who knows if it is lizards, greys ect

Wait a minute now. You do believe in the world govt illuminati conspiracy and the fact that aliens crashed in Roswell right? So why is it so far fetched that aliens are working with the illuminati to enslave mankind? I want to know where the disconnect is between these two ideas?

For-Emris wrote: First of all. How do you imagine the negotiations with aliens? We do not know their language. They do not know ours. In order to learn a foreign language, you need a certain time. This is provided that you have a dictionary and textbook. But here - an absolutely new, unknown language.
If a conflict begins ... Everyone will choose for themselves what to do in this situation. But, the survival of the human race is a priority. More important than personal ambition, pride or the desire to maintain power.

Some don't really have to learn it. I wouldn't be surprised if they had translators or had telepathy (which some people who have had encounters with aliens actually claim some are telepathic but that's another story so who knows but again, not outside the realm of possibility)

The main reason why wars are fought are for territory and resources. Something to add to an empire or to take our resources to add it to their own. Although I don't doubt there are fanatical alien zealots out there that would impose what they consider the vision of a perfect world but our territory and resources are what they'd likely go after.

As a Starseed and Contactee (and thus inclined to identify with / as said aliens), i can definitely say that there are some real funny ideas going around. :blink: ?

I am not gonna say much, other than First Contact and such, is going to be alot more like sci-fi elements (especially things like Babylon 5 and Star Trek), than you would believe possible.

slavery, cannibalism, just ..... *head-desk* :pinch:

What is a Starseed/Contactee?

Arisaig wrote: What is a Starseed/Contactee?

Nm, needed to find out, so looked it up.

"Star seed or starseed may refer to: Star people (New Age belief), individuals who believe they originated from another world, dimension, or planet. Starseeds, space-traveling creatures used by Outsiders to plant life on planets in Larry Niven's Known Space science fiction series."

and a contactee is: a person who claims to have been contacted by alien beings, especially through an abduction.

Now, I like to think myself open minded... but you believe yourself to be extraterrestrial in nature? If so, then how are you also a contactee? Wouldn't being contacted by aliens, as an alien, just be... well, getting a call from mom? Or, if they're alien to you, that would mean anytime you talked to a human, as an extraterrestrial, would be 'alien contact'...

EDIT: further research on how one finds out if they're a Starseed, to me, looking at it, just seems like common symptoms of depression. "Feeling like an outsider" "Having a drive, but easily discouraged when it falls in on you" "Feeling trapped by your body".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDKRh48U69Y

From the Video:

Starseeds, otherwise known as “Homo Novis” are a mixture of ET and human DNA. They are a specific type of hybrid through augmentation. They possess empathy, telepathy, aura manipulation, rejuvenation and past lives memories.

I think we have discussed paranormal abilities here to quite a great extend and at best the conclusions are inconclusive but it seems the first part of this claim would be quite easy to prove the existence of these beings. A simple DNA test from Ancestry.com should do the trick quite nicely! Think of this amazing revelation. I wonder why this has not been done yet?

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: A simple DNA test from Ancestry.com should do the trick quite nicely! Think of this amazing revelation. I wonder why this has not been done yet?

I wonder what would happen if alien dna was put into one of our primitive tests. Would it come back 'unknown' (I've heard of cases of that happening, usually a small percentile ~<1%), or would it come back with a false positive (It says you're mostly Norweigian!... they say, to the obviously far eastern man).

Assuming that "alien DNA" is something that would even be a thing at all, and compatible with our own (big assumptions right there already), I'm not entirely sure that it would be similar enough to show as just some particularly exotic never-before-seen race of human. While we can pinpoint differences between each other very well indeed, we have to keep perspective here. Ancestry are not comparing the entire genome but only typically varying portions of it. Our overall genome is almost entirely identical to those of the other great apes. It is about 90% identical to those of rodents and something like half of it is still matching up with plants. My incredulity is by no means a strong argument, but I have no expectation at all that a human-extraterrestrial hybrid would show up as any kind of human at all, considering we would be sharing at most an insignificant portion of our evolutionary history.