Possible world wide revolution?

Heavenly Warrior wrote: Most fictional and mythological heroes had military experience. For example, ... Joan of Arc...

Ejumakate me more, master.

Yabuturtle wrote: I wonder if anyone has read these

I don't know why some deny it even though the people that are voted in constantly reference it over and over.

"First they came for the communists,
and I did not speak out because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists,
and I did not speak out because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me...
and there was no one left to speak out for me."
~Martin Niemoeller - Prisoner in a Nazi concentration camp during WWII.

"If the American people ever allow PRIVATE BANKS [The Federal Reserve / Bank of Canada...] to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered...I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."
~Thomas Jefferson

"For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. IT IS A SYSTEM WHICH HAS CONSCRIPTED VAST HUMAN AND MATERIAL RESOURCES INFO THE BUILDING OF A TIGHTLY KNIT, HIGHLY EFFICIENT MACHINE THAT COMBINES MILITARY, DIPLOMATIC, INTELLIGENCE, ECONOMIC, SCIENTIFIC AND POLITICAL OPERATIONS. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed."
~John F. Kennedy, The President and The Press Speech, 1961

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine, and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their PROMISES OF DISCRETION for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to DEVELOP OUR PLAN FOR THE WORLD if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during these years. But the world is now more sophisticated and PREPARED TO MARCH TOWARDS A WORLD GOVERNMENT which will never again know war, but only peace and prosperity for the whole of humanity. The supranational sovereignty of an INTELLECTUAL ELITE and WORLD BANKERS is surely preferable to the national auto determination practiced in the past centuries."
~David Rockefeller in an address to the Bilderberger group in Baden-Baden, Germany, June 10, 1991.

“TODAY AMERICANS WOULD BE OUTRAGED IF U.N. TROOPS ENTERED LOS ANGELES TO RESTORE ORDER; TOMORROW THEY WILL BE GRATEFULl! This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond whether real or promulgated (fake), that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will pledge with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS WILL BE WILLINGLY RELINQUISHED for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their WORLD GOVERNMENT."
~Henry Kissinger in an address to the Bilderberger group in Evian, France, May 21, 1992.

"For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate INFLUENCE THEY CLAIM WE WIELD OVER AMERICAN POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC INSTITUTIONS. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘INTERNATIONALISTS’ and of conspiring with others around the world to BUILD A MORE INTEGRATED GLOBAL POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC STRUCTURE - one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I STAND GUILTY AND I AM PROUD OF IT.
~David Rockefeller, from his autobiography “Memoirs”

TIME Online: New World Order for the Economy -
www.time.com/time/magazine/articl ...

"In SEARCHING FOR A NEW ENEMY TO UNITE US, WE CAME UP WITH THE IDEA THAT pollution, THE THREAT OF GLOBAL WARMING, water shortages, famine and the like WOULD FIT THE BILL... All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. THE REAL ENEMY, THEN, IS HUMANITY ITSELF."
~ The First Global Revolution: A Report by the Council of the Club of Rome (global think tank) [September, 1991]
www.clubofrome.org/eng/home/
www.amazon.com/First-Global-Revol ...

Council on Foreign Relations -
www.cfr.org/

Royal Institute of International Affairs -
www.chathamhouse.org.uk/


Oh and here is the real reason for the The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 (Bailout).

Sec. 8. Review.
Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and MAY NOT BE REVIEWED BY ANY COURT OF LAW OR ANY ADMINISTRATIVE AGENCY.
New York Times - www.nytimes.com/2008/09/21/business/21draftcnd.html

I would read this and let it sink it in for a while. I know some might ask for links and I am providing some. But I want some to really read this and think about it.

I am hoping some will consider it. It may be to the point where politicians are going to flat out install martial law, call it an empire and some people will put their head in the sand and constantly deny it because it's easy to just take order and go along with it because you don't have to think for yourself and it's discomforting to realize that the government you worked along with were traitors all along to so it's much more comforting to live in fantasy, pretend that they know best and that there is no conspiracy to divide and enslave you. Living a lie is comforting but it is not right.

Henry Luce was a member of Skull and Bones and I think that William Huntington Russell might have been the founding father of globalism.

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: And yet you are joining the navy so that you may contribute to the issue you perceive. Makes little sense to me...

He must do what he feels is right, of course.

Gisteron wrote:

Heavenly Warrior wrote: The Dark Side of the Oort cloud clouds everything!

Everything except all of the light from beyond it that passes right through it almost entirely unhinered.

The aliens on the Death Star might be jamming us. But how could they be jamming us if they don't know we're searching for them?

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chandra-x-ray-telescope-experiences-175923866.html

What if the Oort cloud is a Dyson sphere?

Just because you don't know anything of what you speak of, doesn't mean noone else does either.

How did we get from possible revolution to ice clouds being Dyson spheres?

Arisaig wrote: How did we get from possible revolution to ice clouds being Dyson spheres?

Because the faith and confirmation bias used here to form these grand conspiracies are not paths to truth and so any conclusion can be arrived at. Someone can say the Oort cloud is a dyson sphere just as easily as one can say that the illuminati are real and both will be just as viable using these techniques.

Exactly. It's because the line between criticism and attack is blurred. This, ladies and gentlemen, is what happens, when "everything can be wisdom, from a certain point of view".
That's the entire strength of (and problem with?) the Campbell material, really, and much of what else is based on it. It is so flexible that it can vindicate anything and everything. For those who want to hear that nothing is wrong, no matter how stupid, it can be made to sound just so. For those who want to hear that our fictions are worthwhile rather than an accurate description of the world, it can be made to sound just so also. Truly, it is an embodiment of its own central message, a masterpiece, indeed!
It is, however, this attitude, that is so antithetical to critical, discerning, discriminating thought, to making judgements even, no matter how useful or necessary, that enables us to watch mad ramblings like this and think nothing of it. Heaven forbid we sound antagonistic with those pesky inquiries or intellectual critiques of any sort.
This person could be a troll, and yet we keep them after they ceased being funny. They could actually seriously need help, too, yet we are not bothered. We would sooner question what we mean by normal, sane, or generally healthy, long before admitting that this may well be none of that and that mayhaps we'd do well by ourselves and by them to at least speak back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kJp8as4fE4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmyPssH549c

I think it's probably best to accept that lots of forces on this earth go un-noticed and because the fact that it's not there in front of you, it does not mean it isn't there or does not exist.

How many illegal criminal activities where there in the government? Especially CIA, one of which they smuggled in drugs in bodies of people but they don't mention that

I wonder if anyone knows about Agent Orange from Monsanto which is currently defunct although now owned by Bayer

I know many of the ones that deny it are usually the ones who are find with mindless media, eat processed food, drink good ol' poisoned water, i.e. fluoride in the water which is a poison even in small doses. All of this combined and more does have an affect on a person's mind and how easily they are influenced.

There are many weak minded people. A reference made even in star wars.

Yabuturtle wrote: I know many of the ones that deny it are usually the ones who are find [sic] with mindless media,...

Skeptics - known for being unskeptical.

... eat processed food,...

As opposed to what, hunting and gathering on their own and then eating the produce raw and untreated?

... drink good ol' poisoned water, i.e. fluoride in the water which is a poison even in small doses.

Which you'd know nothing about were it not for food and water processing. It's also in most table salts. And in body hygiene products...

All of this combined and more does have an affect [sic] on a person's mind and how easily they are influenced.

There are many weak minded people. A reference made even in star wars.

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Yabuturtle wrote: There are many weak minded people. A reference made even in star wars.

And there it is right there. Yabu implies most of us are sheep but he has a stronger mind than most and knows something special about the world we do not. Conspiracy theorists like this find themselves alone with their own view that has no correspondence to objective reality so they come to places like this in search of others like themselves that think the same way. And when they find those others it gives them the false sense that they are actually on to something. That they have some deep insight into the world that no one else has. This is delusional thinking. These people create a world devoid of curriculum that could otherwise tell them their ideas are full of horse hockey.

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote:

Arisaig wrote: How did we get from possible revolution to ice clouds being Dyson spheres?

Because the faith and confirmation bias used here to form these grand conspiracies are not paths to truth and so any conclusion can be arrived at. Someone can say the Oort cloud is a dyson sphere just as easily as one can say that the illuminati are real and both will be just as viable using these techniques.

The flaw with that is that the order of Illuminati is documented and historical. The aims of the order exposed and known to have influence within the Masonic Lodges..

You couldn't do the same with an oort cloud. People aren't speaking of these things of their own mind, mostly. There's real evil out there, "Deep and abiding evil". There are people who participate in what could be termed "dark side rituals". There are real cults who's practitioners seek power and control above all else and will do whatever necessary to achieve those goals.

To remain willfully ignorant of the obvious and documented conspiracy of power being played out is illogical to say the least..

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote:

Yabuturtle wrote: There are many weak minded people. A reference made even in star wars.

And there it is right there. Yabu implies most of us are sheep but he has a stronger mind than most and knows something special about the world we do not. Conspiracy theorists like this find themselves alone with their own view that has no correspondence to objective reality so they come to places like this in search of others like themselves that think the same way. And when they find those others it gives them the false sense that they are actually on to something. That they have some deep insight into the world that no one else has. This is delusional thinking. These people create a world devoid of curriculum that could otherwise tell them they are full of horse hockey.

To be truly objective would be to investigate the claims and the debunkers. Come to your own conclusion. Not dismiss the claims outright. The more absurd the claim the more it should be put to the test.. To just label it and throw it to the side without much more than a glance is just intellectually lazy..

For one, it's been known for millennia that majority of humanity lives in more of a hylic state. Animal or child-like, with a good degree of ignorance to the truths of the world and their own nature. As they grow, they become mental/psychic. Until eventually they reach a more pneumatic state. Understanding the deeper principles of Creation. None of this determining the actual nature of the being in question. Light or Dark.. This idea is where that reference comes from.. the natural growth of the soul..

In keeping with this idea. When in less developed phases. A being is more susceptible to influence and control in its search for direction. Much like a child. Left to their own devices, they would develop slowly but naturally. However, there are always souls that develop with the tendency towards controlling others as a way to recreate in their own image. The more self-focused, the more "outer"-disconnect occurs. The more disconnect, the less one hears the "conviction of the spirit" for their advancements to their goals..

There are hungry people in this world that will think nothing of devouring us to achieve maximum advantage. At a point they stop being like us and are more like beasts. Devouring sheep and wolf alike, until all that remains is their power.. I'll pull a famous line from "Scarface"... "Don't be naive, Kate."

Uzima Moto wrote: The flaw with that is that the order of Illuminati is documented and historical. The aims of the order exposed and known to have influence within the Masonic Lodges..

You couldn't do the same with an oort cloud. People aren't speaking of these things of their own mind, mostly. There's real evil out there, "Deep and abiding evil". There are people who participate in what could be termed "dark side rituals". There are real cults who's practitioners seek power and control above all else and will do whatever necessary to achieve those goals.

To remain willfully ignorant of the obvious and documented conspiracy of power being played out is illogical to say the least..

That all sounds pretty good right? Except NONE of it is true. Yes there was a real Illuminati but guess what, they had no designs on world power. What they did do was setup up an enlightened society that opposed superstition, obscurantism and religious influence over public life. What happened to them? They were systematically dismantled by the catholic church who got the govt to declare their activities illegal. After that the church vilified them by deeming them a secret occult underground bent on the enslavement of people. That is the true story of the Illuminati. You actually want to find a true society that wants to rule the world, you only have to look as far as the catholic church.

As for your claim of dark side rituals? What exactly is a dark side ritual? Where exactly is this "evil out there" you are claiming exists? You are engaging in nothing more than fear mongering just as the catholic church does with all their false claims of demons and the threat of hell if you don't do as they command. Sorry but I will reject those things out of hand. And if you want to call me an Illuminati or a Sith because of that feel free. I welcome any title meant to throw off the chains of control through unsubstantiated fear.

It was also sought by its members to create a caste society based on Masonic structure. Which in modern times is rule by intelligence. Replacing one hierarchy with another. Whether or not HE personally wanted global power is up for debate. What's not is that he set the precedent of the technocratic world order..

Which also means rule of the occult, withholders of knowledge..

If you want to keep the wool over your eyes that's your choice. You're being skeptical to the point of bias towards your own opinion. There's enough historical documentation of conspiracies of power alone to justify the assumption that they still happen. Globalism must include them. There's evidence to suggest it was even started by the power brokers.. all most politicians do is play their role.. Especially people like Bush, Clinton, and Obama.. some being consciously aware of what "utopia" they're building..

Don't ignore, 1984!

Last time I checked. Cremation of our care for Life is a very dark thing to do.. like cutting your heartstrings.. what dark and evil effect could that have on the individual..

Uzima Moto wrote: .. Especially people like Bush, Clinton, and Obama.. some being consciously aware of what "utopia" they're building..

Don't ignore, 1984!

Do you have any actually evidence to back any of that up or are you just going to keep on asserting things over and over and then quoting works of fiction as support for your bias?

Uzima Moto wrote: Cremation of our care for Life is a very dark thing to do

I can even begin to try and come to some idea of what you mean by this statement?

*actual. There's plenty. They've found enough for 911 alone to request it to be presented to the Grand Jury.. However, I doubt any mainstream presstitute media outlet will report on it..

I'm astonished at how in all your "research" you haven't come across ANY conspiracies? I mean, even the official narrative of 911 can be called a conspiracy theory..