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26 Nov 2018 21:05 #329675 by Tetrahedron


Just to play Darth's Advocate.

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26 Nov 2018 21:47 #329679 by Silvermane
In the words of one of my beloved mentors, whom also lost his battle with cancer at the beginning of the year, who loved to be as helpful and insightful as Yoda, the answer to all of your questions and statements: “Yes”.

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27 Nov 2018 01:53 #329704 by Uzima Moto
For those who ask for evidence go look if you care to.. if you don't, don't come on a thread like this asking for it.. it's counterproductive to the actual solution orientated conversation trying to take place.. and there also been attempts to bring some. Deconstructing the proof is necessary. However, there's been more bashing then an actual discussion..

Personally, as someone who respects The Force as I do. It will not let me accept methods of coercive control over my life or the lives of its other conscious children. People can do just fine without other people controlling them for their own purposes.. it's not just and it's not natural.. as we respect The Force we should respect people and the freedom Nature gave them.. because of that, as a "Jedi" it's part of my mission to see the liberation of Life from Darkness and evil.. *natural cycles of nature not included*

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27 Nov 2018 18:54 #329760 by Kyrin Wyldstar

Uzima Moto wrote: For those who ask for evidence go look if you care to.. if you don't, don't come on a thread like this asking for it.. it's counterproductive to the actual solution orientated conversation trying to take place.. and there also been attempts to bring some. Deconstructing the proof is necessary. However, there's been more bashing then an actual discussion..



Actually the only bashing going on here is your accusation that the criticisms provided to your claims is nothing more than bashing. Instead of addressing the criticisms you are providing red herrings and claiming unfair treatment. None of these are valid approaches to justifying your claims. The criticisms are the opposite of counterproductive, in fact they have been the most productive part of this thread. You cannot provide a solution to a problem that does not exist.

As for your demand that critics of half-baked ideas and pseudo-scientific claims not come on threads in an open and public forum, I’m afraid that will fall on deaf ears. I suggest if you want to discuss such things free of critique you should be the one to leave forums like this alone and instead go to a conspiracy forum where such ideas are coddled.





Uzima Moto wrote: Personally, as someone who respects The Force as I do. It will not let me accept methods of coercive control over my life or the lives of its other conscious children. People can do just fine without other people controlling them for their own purposes.. it's not just and it's not natural.. as we respect The Force we should respect people and the freedom Nature gave them.. because of that, as a "Jedi" it's part of my mission to see the liberation of Life from Darkness and evil.. *natural cycles of nature not included*



I agree that methods of unjust coercive control over the sovereignty of individual lives should be eradicated where we find them. It’s the reason we fought WWII against Hitler and it’s the reason we as a nation made reparations including payouts of 1.6 billion to Japanese Americans that were placed in internment camps during that same time. Mistakes were made, sure, but the people spoke out and legislative action was taken to correct them. This is just one example. If these secret organizations were truly in control why would they have allowed these actions to payout and legislate new laws so it never happens again to come about?

To take these things to a level where you see stereotypical and consummately cartoonish evil people like Snidely Whiplash around every corner in secret league with Boris and Natasha who have absolutely no redeeming qualities or regard for human life all stroking their mustaches as they enact plans to manically take over the world or commit such atrocious attacks of terrorism against their own people just so they can hold the world at ransom is just paranoid delusion.

You have your mission as a Jedi and that’s great. But stop fighting wind mills and instead turn your attention to the real issues this world faces and actually do some good in that regard instead of wasting time chasing shadows. And if you disagree with that and insist on your course of action then I must pursue my mission as a Je’daii and see the liberation of life from the misconception and outright lies these conspiracies bring. To help people realize that there is no such thing as evil, that the darkness is necessary because it is within and should be embraced and harnessed for mankind’s true advancement as a species.

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27 Nov 2018 20:45 #329764 by Yabuturtle

Tetrahedron wrote:



Just to play Darth's Advocate.


It's actually kind of concerning that the most powerful people in the world are people we barely know, which alone should concern people among the numerous secret meetings they have

Whether it's Rothschilds, Bilderbergs, Area 51, Roswell, Monsanto, those groups always seem to love secrecy, which should let people know if they have a lot to hide, they are likely not up to any good, especially the kind of power they wield.
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28 Nov 2018 19:25 #329787 by Kyrin Wyldstar

Yabuturtle wrote: ...which should let people know if they have a lot to hide, they are likely not up to any good...


This very temples controlling powers hide a lot. They hide certain forums, certain conversations, have secret meeting places and exclusive gatherings. By your flawed logic they must be up to no good as well, right?

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28 Nov 2018 22:04 #329789 by Adder
Bilderbegs et al want you to waste your time with celebrities and conspiracies.... and if they wanted to create fear they don't need to resort to 'false flag' operations, for the lack of real threats is only part of the illusion of the conspiracy to begin with. There are plenty of real enough threats out there which if they wanted they could just allow to slip through, if indeed their power is so deep. It would be much safer and easier for them!!! So when conspiracy theorists go to false flags its a sure sign to me they are buying into the conspiracy narrative rather then developing their logical construct of actual conspiracy!!!

The biggest threat to rich people is people learning about how to be rich, because it erodes their base of power ever so slightly..... and while it would take millions of people for them to actually feel it - the one thing rich people realize is how easy is it to lose compared to how hard it is to make, which is why they like their privacy and hold their cards close to their chest. For example, you don't build a house and then invite termites in, you keep the buggers out at all cost!!! BUT there is nothing stopping termites building their own houses. Its all just a competition and the only thing stopping people from playing is themselves - you don't need to be born into wealth to get wealthy. But privacy is pretty par for the course so its existence alone is not enough reason to assert abuse.

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06 Dec 2018 00:27 #330157 by Uzima Moto

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: Actually the only bashing going on here is your accusation that the criticisms provided to your claims is nothing more than bashing. Instead of addressing the criticisms you are providing red herrings and claiming unfair treatment. None of these are valid approaches to justifying your claims. The criticisms are the opposite of counterproductive, in fact they have been the most productive part of this thread. You cannot provide a solution to a problem that does not exist.

As for your demand that critics of half-baked ideas and pseudo-scientific claims *bash" not come on threads in an open and public forum, I’m afraid that will fall on deaf ears. I suggest if you want to discuss such things free of critique you should be the one to leave forums like this alone and instead go to a conspiracy forum where such ideas are coddled.


I've actually provided evidence and could provide more. I have, in no way, tried to throw out things to distract from the argument. However, that [providing evidence] wasn't the point of this thread. The point of this thread was to come up with solutions to these OBVIOUS problems.. and you have been the red herring itself to that entire discussion.. If you want to remain blind and gullible you have that right. Everybody isn't going to join you in the dark though.

No amount of bashing, which I marked in your quotes, will run me off to some corner where people like you can make sure we're out of the way. No, I'll just ignore you personally. Continuing with the conversation at hand. I would advise anyone else who wants the discussion to do the same. The only people who could marginalize me by force is the Council itself.. thankfully, you're NOWHERE near that..

I don't mind actual discussion. I don't mind the representation of evidence on both sides. What I won't acknowledge is the outright attack of people's ideas. Even the one's I'm adamant about, like the natural tyranny of Socialism..

I agree that methods of unjust coercive control over the sovereignty of individual lives should be eradicated where we find them. It’s the reason we fought WWII against Hitler and it’s the reason we as a nation made reparations including payouts of 1.6 billion to Japanese Americans that were placed in internment camps during that same time. Mistakes were made, sure, but the people spoke out and legislative action was taken to correct them. This is just one example. If these secret organizations were truly in control why would they have allowed these actions to payout and legislate new laws so it never happens again to come about?

To take these things to a level where you see stereotypical and consummately cartoonish evil people like Snidely Whiplash around every corner in secret league with Boris and Natasha who have absolutely no redeeming qualities or regard for human life all stroking their mustaches as they enact plans to manically take over the world or commit such atrocious attacks of terrorism against their own people just so they can hold the world at ransom is just paranoid delusion.*bash*

You have your mission as a Jedi and that’s great. But stop fighting wind mills and instead turn your attention to the real issues this world faces and actually do some good in that regard instead of wasting time chasing shadows. And if you disagree with that and insist on your course of action then I must pursue my mission as a Je’daii and see the liberation of life from the misconception and outright lies these conspiracies bring.*bash* To help people realize that there is no such thing as evil, that the darkness is necessary because it is within and should be embraced and harnessed for mankind’s true advancement as a species.


See, Kyrin.. How are you going to debate against my point when you don't even understand it? Then, at the same time, you actually agree with my whole point..

See, you mention Hitler. However, the set up for WW2 began at the end of WW1. It had been said before that the peace treaty was little more than a 20 year ceasefire.. not only that, but the same interests behind WW1 also put Hitler in power. WW2 was simply a do over.. The secret deals and agreements happening without the knowledge or consent of the people lead them into the tyranny of war in WW1. Just so these interest groups could reshape the world in their image.. you seem to hold a cartoonish view of what tyranny looks like.. the same images you accuse me of having actually point to your misunderstanding of my argument.. even though there are sociopaths who would be attracted to power.. mass internment is Hard tyranny, but despotism comes in other forms. Even democracy itself can become despotic.. to think that just because people make reparations that it's proof that these moves are totally altruistic is a fallacy itself..

You cannot liberate people from being suspicious of Power. It is an intrigal part of a healthy and free society. There's nothing delusional or paranoid about it. There's nothing that could even argue against that point. The ENTIRE ideology behind the US revolution was suspicion of Power BECAUSE OF people's tendency to centralize and abuse it, or ignore that process as it happens around them. Which, in truth, is the real delusion.. the true evil that excuses and allows much darker evil to exist unabated..

I'm letting you know now. Your mission will be a failure.. with little to no input from me.. because these Elitists will expose themselves. Just like how Chemtrails were a "cOnSpIrAcY tHeOrY" until they're not because we can use them to combat "gLoBaL WaRmInG".. but then, weather modification isn't in the U.S. Code to look pretty or tickle my suspicion. Your accusations of falsity HAVE NO MERIT.. if only because of the amount of documentation out there on these subjects.. but also because you can't back your accusations with ANY proof or logical argument..

Fighting "climate change" is fighting windmills. What I propose is a decentralization of Power, Wealth, and Force.. that is the real good and righteous work I am committed to.. using people's good nature and fears to coerce them into a system of control IS THE REAL ISSUE... not CO2 or Donald Trump.. Decentralization will empower the masses into prosperity.. not Central Planning.. good luck with that though if that's part of your mission.. just don't end up on the wrong side of history..

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06 Dec 2018 00:33 #330159 by Uzima Moto
Kyrin..

Climate change is propaganda..

911 was aided by elements WITHIN our governing institutions..

Spiritual Light is real, existing within us and in nature(outside us).. Darkness is the ugly void..

Until you have something credible to back your accusations of falsity of these claims. I WILL IGNORE YOU and encourage others to do so. If you have real questions or skepticism. Please feel free to express them in a loving manner..

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06 Dec 2018 05:53 #330174 by Gisteron

Uzima Moto wrote: Climate change is propaganda..

It is. Climate science is a profoundly important topic and reveals very urgent issues that people, whether they are themselves powerful or only voting for others to be, need to be well informed on. That's why there is so much of a push to propagate this information as far as it'll go. To not propagandize it could be argued to be a literal crime against humanity, just as spreading lies about it could.


Spiritual Light is real, existing within us and in nature(outside us).. Darkness is the ugly void..

What does that even mean? And once that is cleared up, how do you know?

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