What would help the Temple Be A Better Place? Suggestions please...

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6 years 2 months ago #290183 by TheDude

Wescli Wardest wrote: "Protocol for removal of Officers other than by Council vote"

Has been mentioned. And removing an Officer is one thing; but, it leaves a void that will have to be filled until a replacement can be selected. Has anyone given thought to how we might do that?

In Council, we have been looking at the use of applications and a selection process. Normally we reserve Officer Position for those that have achieved the rank of Knight or higher. Is a process like that something that would be wanted by the membership?


This isn't a comment on any council members, but in general practice, is it better for a position to be open for a suitable person to eventually fill, or for it to be filled by someone unsuitable for that specific position (whether that means available time to commit or individual ability) to fill it? Is the idea of an open position such a bad thing?
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6 years 2 months ago #290184 by
Totally agree.

Benchwarmers sap morale, raise expectations yet don't contribute more than an empty seat. At least an empty seat can be filled, when the right person comes along.

Given the number of active members on the site, I don't see a situation where we couldn't recruit someone valuable pretty much immediately anyway.

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6 years 2 months ago #290188 by Edan
There's no reason why apprentices couldn't fill vacant seats, after all, I did.

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6 years 2 months ago #290190 by Wescli Wardest
How do you know if someone is going to be a bench warmer or is capable of filling the position until you have given them the chance?

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6 years 2 months ago - 6 years 2 months ago #290191 by
I'm not sure what you're asking... you pick people you think can and will do the job, people with a track record of contributing and being active, people who you believe will be good candidates... and those who prove to be benchwarmers, you ask to improve, and if they don't, you remove them. Like any job, really.

The issue is not in giving people a chance... it's in keeping all seats filled so no-one has a chance.
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6 years 2 months ago #290192 by Wescli Wardest

tzb wrote: I'm not sure what you're asking... you pick people you think can and will do the job, people with a track record of contributing and being active, people who you believe will be good candidates... and those who prove to be benchwarmers, you ask to improve, and if they don't, you remove them. Like any job, really.

The issue is not in giving people a chance... it's in keeping all seats filled so no-one has a chance.



Right, and I asked a few posts ago if filling those seats was something we had considered in addition to removing people from them.

Removing a person that has responsibilities needs to be filled as soon as possible because the removal of said person cause a strain on those that have to pick up the slack.

But we have no real idea how people will behave until they are put in the position and given the chance. I. for one, have never put someone somewhere because they were by buddy or whatever. I only put those in place that have shown they can do the job. But that doesn’t mean they are always going to do the job to the standard or liking of everyone else. We just don’t know till they are in that position. And then you have to “ask to improve, and if they don't, you remove them. Like any job, really.”

And that again takes time where someone else has to pick up the slack for that position not being done.

Some jobs, it isn’t as big a deal to the daily running of things. Some, it can be a complete pain in the butt.

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