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02 May 2010 19:21 #30300 by 666
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I'm gonna say something that maybe not too much people know...
and also sorry

Do you think that forms, and videos and everything else are what?

THATS A CIRCUS !!!

I train for several years, and I can tell you HOW easy is to perform with a dummy sword, lightsaber or boken, or shinai... that is only to train
how many of you was in the back of a real sword... with an opponent in front of you with another REAL sword... how many ...

so easy with a saber than never hurt you....

I lose a thumb in a real battle, and 3 month of reconstruction was needed to have it in place again ( but not functional, only for griping)

I been in real combats several times, and I am alive... with not visible damages, no scars others than my finger, ( maybe lucky, maybe I'm was good)
that is part of my past, and I can tell how easy is been confused when you see some of this videos...

anything near the reality ...

I do not recommend the training with a real sword, but, ALWAYS take in mind...

when you do forms... you are far far away from reality

for circus, I prefer \"cirque du soleil\"

and if you are smart ... be far away from a real combat... not for fun

sorry guys...

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02 May 2010 20:28 #30301 by RedHeron
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I would agree that being as far away from combat as possible is the best course of action... but it does pay to be prepared.

I was hoping for some instruction in ideas to use in swordsmanship. I have used a sword to drive someone trying to do a \"home invasion\" from my house. It was effective... but EXTREMELY stupid. I brought a glorified knife to a gunfight and happened to get lucky.

Learning swordplay isn't about combat; it's about learning a pattern of thought: discipline, not efficacy. If you want to be effective with a sword, go back a couple of hundred years. If you want to simply learn the means to understand how things fit together at a more or less universal level, study the sword.

So far as with your \"saber\" question, I'm pretty confident. Perhaps overly so, but perhaps not. A friend of mine learned swordplay before going through 2 tours in the Middle East. He survived because of his training in the sword--not because he picked something up and swung it around, but because he understood the value of discipline.

I have trained with live steel. Rattan, oak, plastic... these have basically different properties than moving a metal blade at full speed, and to be in a battle against an enemy with swords... let's just say that hasn't happened in the past century, that I'm aware of.

With a sword, you also have to be ready to put an enemy's blood all over you. HIV, hepatitis C, and other bloodborne pathogens make the risks of war phenomenal at that level. With a rifle, you aren't as personally involved. It's easier to discount what you see at a distance. It's easier to kill. And to be killed.

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if you are trained in the military or just a hobbyist who requires discipline to understand the way they used to do it in an ancient military force. The end result is that discipline is the way we extend our lives, and live to an older age than those who are without it.

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02 May 2010 20:49 #30302 by RyuJin
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trust me, i know these videos are for show, but they do have some useful information once you filter through the \"circus\" material....even stage fighting like jackie chan, jet li, sammo hung, and jason statham use can become effective in the real world. it only takes the right mind to adapt it.

my body is covered in scars...all learning experiences, from swords, staff, sai, nunchaku, etc... i've even done demonstrations in the military using only a single sheet of notebook paper as a weapon....

i was taught kendo on the beaches of guam, in sand up to my knees making it difficult to run, this forced me to learn to block, dodge, and read my opponent. the man that taught me didn't use pads, and didn't show any mercy...i had many bruises and finger dislocations until i got good at it. when we worked on footwork it was done in the water standing on sharp coral(wearing dive shoes)in the current...this forced me to master my balance, footing, and built leg strength...

when my uncle taught me renshinken-ryu ninjutsu(also known as shorinji-te/fuma style)he also showed me no mercy and used no pads...it was learn from the pain or don't learn at all....i have done a lot of weapons training in my life...

when i studied shuri-te we were learning kata's and i didn't like doing it because i felt there was no real danger in a controlled set-up...later i learned that kata is mainly to show how certain techniques work together and can be strung together in combinations, as well as to control the flow of a fight....i've never been good at kata because i'm what my instructors all called a \"static fighter\"...meaning i read and react, using my speed to counter my opponent then stopping, rather than using combinations to controll my opponent...it sometimes comes off as being arrogant, but it's simply because i don't like to fight and was raised to never strike first...

back to the original train of thought.....yes these videos are mainly flash and as such should not be thought of as instructional for combat...

to redheron:

i love being unorthodox...it's a great advantage over pure form... it does have its weaknesses as does any methodology, but i always look for them and my techniques constantly evolve...i've once dislocated my own shoulder to get out of a triangle hold....painful, but effective...of course i spent a few weeks unable to use my arm once the adrenaline wore off....i fully agree that every technique has a counter...even the unorthodox ones(though they're harder to figure out)...i've modified effective holds, and locks to make them easier to apply, and maintain....i'm constantly tinkering with martial arts techniques...the monte kiffin of martial arts :laugh:

my kendo instructor was always impressed with how i blended my other sword techniques with his while sparring...the last time we sparred ended in a draw...and considering he won everytime prior i felt good about it...

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14 May 2010 13:05 #30625 by Vitharr
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I watched all the videos and I also have several books that have frame by frame pictures of each technique but I found that none of them were really my style and like RyuJin I found myself making my own technique to suit my style unfortunately I still didnt feel like it was for me even though i made it up. I then a couple years back saw that a new star wars game was coming out, The Force Unleashed, and I have to say I found this style really comfortable and so fluent for me it looks unorthodox feels unorthodox compared to the natural forms but I find it great.

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14 May 2010 13:09 - 14 May 2010 13:10 #30626 by RedHeron
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Congratulations... you're both practicing Jeet Kune Do. :D
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14 May 2010 18:21 #30638 by RyuJin
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funniest part is that that actually is the basis of jeet kune do - take what works for you and discard the rest all so you can express yourself truthfully as the late great bruce lee would say

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15 May 2010 21:17 #30666 by Beowulf1985
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23 May 2011 22:32 #38973 by YadinHowwalker
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Thank you so much my freind for posting these videos. I was unsure exactly how to train with these forms but these are so much help!!

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22 Jun 2011 19:12 #39892 by Isame
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In reply to the first video posted, that form looks extremely similar to the first form of Senkotiros, a Filipino martial art that I took awhile back but had to quit because of personal reasons.

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