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30 Aug 2012 21:52 #71816 by
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Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion I gain strength.
Through strength I gain power.
Through power I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.

That is our code. Any student is asked to define it at the beginning of their studies and at the end of the first section of assignments. Each Sith I've met has defined it differently. I choose a simpler interpretation as I do not hold to lofty ideas of the Force. I answer to my own ethics and my honour.

When asked to define the Force I said that I am the Force. We are the Force. It's my passion, my strength, my power, my victory. I break my chains. Does that seem self-centred? Maybe. But I know how to be what I am, and embracing the truth will change your fate.

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30 Aug 2012 22:17 #71819 by PatrickB
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In the years I have past i been fighting again guys like you on the street of life and I know you don't learn from the jedi knight you are just studying there as you there Passions there mentalities and behavior and symptom and character and there compassion sense in the sitiism there no reel compassion well ti is the same to you over and over

You most know the jedi knight ears well and there are not def or sourd it in french sense it not important to you the second language speaking in the world to bad for you as they say in francais a la prochaine.

Where there pleasure there no shyness.

Where there is shyness there is no pleasure

where there sources there is information

where there is amnesty there is sensibility.

where there is pleasure there no shyness.

and whit pleasure there is peace

where there is sensei's

there is smartness

where there is stupidity

there is sitiism

if somebody who train as a jedi for answer to patrickB

(and PS no sith allowed)

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30 Aug 2012 22:23 #71821 by Adder
I'm both Jedi and Sith, go figure :blink:

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30 Aug 2012 22:49 #71822 by
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PatrickB wrote: :whistle:

In the years I have past i been fighting again guys like you on the street of life and I know you don't learn from the jedi knight you are just studying there as you there Passions there mentalities and behavior and symptom and character and there compassion sense in the sitiism there no reel compassion well ti is the same to you over and over

You most know the jedi knight ears well and there are not def or sourd it in french sense it not important to you the second language speaking in the world to bad for you as they say in francais a la prochaine.

Where there pleasure there no shyness.

Where there is shyness there is no pleasure

where there sources there is information

where there is amnesty there is sensibility.

where there is pleasure there no shyness.

and whit pleasure there is peace

where there is sensei's

there is smartness

where there is stupidity

there is sitiism

if somebody who train as a jedi for answer to patrickB

(and PS no sith allowed)




I'm not meaning to be mean or anything, but I don't think your code there translated very well directly to English. Maybe you could post the original language and I can try and work it through some translating programs and see if it makes more sense to me.

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31 Aug 2012 00:29 #71829 by PatrickB
Thank you for asking .I going to explain the phrases that i wrote .But i created the phrase in English .So if you want to translate them that's alright with me and send me the text or create other phrase or event play with the words.that how it goes.Csmith

Where there's pleasure there's no shyness
Where there's shyness there's no pleasure
( i meant by that ,it is to put emphasis on feeling pleasurable factor to stay alert on believing the pleasure it is good to feel. Shyness because to be shy is a deception the way the body unexpressed him self and contract your muscle in put you to rest of moving you speaking ability.)

Where there's sources there 's information
Where there's amnesty there is sensibility
(In fact is to be honest with people and if you know something useful for you to progress.)

Where there's pleasure there no shyness
and with pleasure there is peace
(with the pleasure create just by saying peace it creates beautiful felling.)

Where there's sensei's
there's smartness.
(It means when you practice long an off something in life you become a master.)

Where there'stupidity
there's sithiism
(It means criminal is no good and no values to know them only they bring you dow with them.)

I hope it is clear if you have any question please write to me
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31 Aug 2012 00:50 - 31 Aug 2012 00:51 #71830 by Adder

PatrickB wrote: Where there'stupidity
there's sithiism
(It means criminal is no good and no values to know them only they bring you dow with them.)


Calling all Sith bad, stupid, criminal, evil etc. sort of goes against one of the struggles Jediism (and perhaps Jedi Realists) are trying to make - the distinction between the fiction to real world application.

Quite simply the very notion that there is any place in society for fostering 'orders of evil domination' is just delusional fantasy, biding time until the proponents wake up to reality (if ever) or they progress enough to be dealt with by authorities as criminals. Therefore why bother using the term Sith in that way? The Sith in the movies were not acting Sith, they were acting evil. If someone is acting evil then call them evil.

I guess my point is perhaps consider that some people see the potential in Jedi and Sith as effective paradigms for modern philosophical, cultural and religious application. Not to mention the entire notion of criminality is subject to jurisdiction and content of laws to begin with I would have imagined, so one persons criminal could be another's saviour. Sorry if it reads critical but I've yet to see you say anything Sith about being Sith.

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31 Aug 2012 01:08 #71832 by PatrickB
I just mean that there a site of Internet that is call sithiism and it's the link a saw of Jon front page and if you see it's not fiction any more and it's real people who identifies them self from the character in the movie that is considered criminal there no misunderstanding for me adder.You see jedi knight identifies them self as protector of the peace.And the sith to killer of the war they are warrior do you see that distinction adder

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31 Aug 2012 01:08 #71833 by RyuJin
One does not have to be "evil" or bad or a criminal to be sith...sith have an inward focus....they look to themselves first and most help others after themslves....jedi have an outward focus choosing to help others before helpng themselves....both methods work...and they compliment each other perfectly....once you learn to balance the two you become complete...I've been done both roads and know the benefits and drawbacks of both...the only evil is in the heart of the individual

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31 Aug 2012 01:21 #71834 by PatrickB
It depend to who you identify your self.To center on your self is to believe in that good if you don't help no one how are going to find work and contribute to society.And furthermore if you have been in both road are you still in both direction or are you washes from the who are not frequent able or is that why you quit because there wore up to no good in the neighbourhood

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31 Aug 2012 01:33 #71835 by RyuJin
I am simply jedi...though it would be more acurate to call me a grey jedi or a rogue jedi....I see merit in both paths but I choose my own path...I do what is needed even if it isn't always nice...or as qui gon jinn would say " I will do what I must"....the world needs both light and dark....with no night the crops would dry out and burn with no day they would freeze and die

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31 Aug 2012 01:44 - 31 Aug 2012 01:46 #71836 by Adder

PatrickB wrote: You see jedi knight identifies them self as protector of the peace.And the sith to killer of the war they are warrior do you see that distinction adder


I read what you wrote, but disagree with your interpretation, as outlined in my previous post but also because protector/guardian denotes the external interaction whilst warrior can safely and easily describe the internal focus ie; inner warrior. To your position though, I'd argue that the dark side enables that which it so dramatically represented in the fiction, but does not necessitate it. Therefore the practise becomes perhaps risky, but not inherently evil. The individual is responsible for their actions, society has no place for that fictional antagonism and this is not a role playing site/community. So as others have said it seems more accurate to judge the individual, and I'd be careful about using blanket labels to focus negative emotions, as that is a type of dark empowerment in itself (imo).

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31 Aug 2012 01:51 #71837 by PatrickB
I Have read that a jedi rouge is consider as a stih inquisitor is that true for you . and night is there to rest your body and the crop refresh them self and sand is the essential of the earth heat for instance there the dark who mean criminal and the temp to be obscure of the force i don't consider night or black colour obscure of the force. May the light side of the force be with you always i like to have a commentary on this, can you give me the insights on a jedi rouge or fallen .
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31 Aug 2012 04:25 #71848 by
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It seems that you are still going more on the fiction than the reality. First of all, you can't always believe what you see online. You can find a site for Sith that may be more grounded in the fictional aspects. They may be role players who don't admit to role playing and do it subtly. And then you may come across those who are merely joking around...trolling if you will.

To be a Sith does not mean you are focused on evil...on crime...on destruction...whatever else there is. This is the fictional interpretation of the Sith. However, just like in the Jedi community, you will find those who take things a bit too far. And this is why you can't judge the Sith as a whole. There are people who look at us Jedi and see a bunch of nerds wielding plastic lightsabers and wearing robes all the time. What you're doing to the Sith is what "outsiders" do to the Jedi community. Make accusations...stereotype.

Now, a lot of Jedi I have met do not use the different Jedi and Sith labels (protector, healer, warrior, inquisitor, etc etc) mostly because those are labels for the fictional aspects of the two groups. Some Jedi and Sith will use these labels to better define what their intentions are, but most won't go walking around saying "I'm a Jedi protector" or "I'm a Sith inquisitor" or what have you. As I said, it's because these labels are more for the fictional aspects.

Much like the labels listed above, you will also see things like "light jedi", "grey jedi", "dark jedi" and so on. Once again, these are used more for showing people the path you follow, and not really as labels like in fiction. You will also find that with these labels come different interpretations as to what each one means. That's the great thing about Jediism and Sithism...there is no set definition for anything. You make of it what you want. You get to define yourself. You can throw a label out there to help people figure out who you are, but most know that it's just a tool, and not an actual label. That's how I see it, at least. I've been here for 6 months now, and I have yet to use any of these labels (at least not to my knowledge) because I don't want to people to make judgement based off of the fictional aspects of those labels.

Now, I will be honest and tell you that my reply is coming off of most other people's replies, because most of the time I really can't understand a thing you're saying, lol. I'm not picking on you or being mean, because I know this isn't your first language and that you are learning, i'm just letting you know where my reply is coming from. So if I ever hit on something you that didn't really say, I apologize in advance :P I've never been good when it comes to understanding broken English...which is terrible because that's all I hear at my job (that's what you get for living near the border of Mexico, lol).

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31 Aug 2012 15:10 #71888 by RyuJin
when i say rogue, i mean it in the generic sense of the word...i'm not a bad or evil person, but not everything i do is considered good/legal etc...i will do whatever is needed, even if it means breaking a rule or two as long as its outcome and intention is for a good cause...i will not do something for greedy or selfish reasons, unless it benefits others as well...i walk the line between, if i have to break a few eggs so be it....but i also have my own lines that i will not cross....i have no problem accepting the consequences for my actions good or bad....humans are too complex to pigeon hole into simply light or dark...there is a very large grey area that most people live in....

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31 Aug 2012 18:00 #71901 by
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When I say Rogue I'm talking about D&D or WoW.

I have seen class-based titles here though. Can anyone PM me the significance as far as the Realist Order goes?

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31 Aug 2012 21:49 #71909 by
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PatrickB wrote: I hi williamkeade I am composing in English all right and i am not arguing with anybody and it's true my education is french speaking and i practice two languages how smart is that.

Well... in Europe, isn't bilingual speaking pretty much par for the course? So the only trick then is to become fluent enough to pass for a native English speaker.

Williamkaede wrote: English is regarded as the hardest language in the world to learn isn't it?

I heard that was Icelandic.

English is up there, though. We've got too many linguistic rules and exceptions and junk.

Hadi Apollos wrote: To be a Sith does not mean you are focused on evil...on crime...on destruction...whatever else there is. This is the fictional interpretation of the Sith.

I dunno, I'd say the Sith are more Lawful Evil. They don't really go for the crime stuff. They're more interested in rewriting the laws, THEN doing the bad stuff. :P

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01 Sep 2012 03:22 #71920 by
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I'm more Chaotic Good, aren't I so damn original.

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01 Sep 2012 05:49 #71926 by
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Chaotic Good

Superb expression....

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01 Sep 2012 06:30 #71933 by PatrickB
I hope it's ironic

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01 Sep 2012 14:28 #71957 by
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Williamkaede wrote: When I say Rogue I'm talking about D&D or WoW.


So you do it from behind then?

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