"guest' rank

I've recently noticed that my rank is listed as "guest". I'm confused about this and I was wondering why. While transient, I am actively studying the initiates program, and have sworn my oaths and registered fully. I suppose I'm just wondering if all my information is filed correctly. If someone can direct me to some information, it will be greatly appreciated.

Thank You.

Unfortunately I cannot answer your question, but I hope you don't mind if I use your thread to issue another request.

I might have just missed the thread or notice etc, but I think it would be good for all members of The Temple if there was a list and explanation behind each of the given ranks.

As I said I might have missed it, so if I have I'd appreciate the link as I'm sure others who may have missed it would as well.

akkarin i stumbled across this yesterday: http://www.templeofthejediorder.org/faq##13.%20Don%27t%20these%20sound%20awfully%20Catholic?



i think this is what you're looking for

no problem with hijacking the thread, Akkarin. Chances are, if you want to know about something, I will to.

Don't quote me on this, but I think you have to finish the initiate program before your rank is changed. The simple oath is more of a personal thing; dedication to the path. I hope I'm not wrong, but if you read new member instructions, that might help.

without demeaning the ranks and i respect those of high rank shouldn't it be more about the experience gained the rushing thru the ranks, secondly as i read somewhere ranks are a possession and jedi shouldnt get too attached to possessions as they lead to unwanted emotions??

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There's no rushing. It took me months to become An apprentice, and I've been an apprentice for 3 years, where the average apprenticeship is 8 months. Second, there is no one here who is attached to their rank, they are a representation of experience and respect.

If you have completed oath and application, your rank should be "Temple member", if you are studying (have done a couple of lessons), Your rank should be "novice".

Jestor takes care of this stuff, but he's only a man, so it can take time.

Second, there is no one here who is attached to their rank, they are a representation of experience and respect.

i only implied that ranks could create unwanted emotions that arent they way of the jedi

shaunk wrote: without demeaning the ranks and i respect those of high rank shouldn't it be more about the experience gained the rushing thru the ranks, secondly as i read somewhere ranks are a possession and jedi shouldnt get too attached to possessions as they lead to unwanted emotions??

Correct, I am in charge, currently of changing ranks.... Before, it was done in a very hodgepodge fashion....

Here and there...whenever it was brought to a seniors attention....

I am in the process of changing the new folk, and going back, reading applications, double checking Oaths, etc...

I got a spreadsheet, and everything....:woohoo:

After I get 5 new applications, I check 5 new and 5 old members for proper criteria....

Here is how ranks currently work:

Guest = site only
Guest = training only, no oath/no app
Member = oath/app
Novice = oath/app/in training
Initiate = oath/app/training complete
Apprentice = oath/app/found Master
Knight= oath/app/council approval
Senior Knight = oath/app/own apprentice
Master = oath/app/based on merit/council approval
Grand Master = oath/app/based on merit/council approval
Cardinal= oath/app/based on merit/seat open/council approval

I hope that helps....

Yes, shaunk, you are correct about ranks...

The newest Newb may be further on their path than I am on mine, but whose to say?

The ranks are so people know where a person is in our hierarchy here ati TOTJO....

I learn from people's journal entries all the time...

Many forums use the term member for a person who registers. We call a person who registers a Guest. Guests are welcome to train and keep a journal and be known only by their user name. We can't grant a degree or rank to an anonymous person but such an one can nonetheless take advantage of our training and materials. As we are a non-profit member corporation and a church (yes we're a temple, church is a legal term) one becomes a member of Temple Of The Jedi Order by posting The Oath and submitting a True Jedi Application.

If a person lies on the Jedi Application it's Void.

To avoid confusion one person sets the rank statuses. It must be done manually. Unless you've actually completed a few lessons don't expect to see a rank change just because you've announced your're going to begin training. If you have posted responses to several lessons and you see your status has not changed then you may PM Master Jestor. For PM purposes you'll only put Jestor in the send to line.

While it is true that a Jedi should not become too attached to any possession or thing, it is my current understanding that this refers to an unhealthy attachment. That is to say, a Jedi should never become so attached to something that he/she could not stand to lose it. That being said, my rank isn't of GREAT concern to me, however, if it is not recorded that I'm completing the initiates training, or that I completed my oaths, then I cannot be considered for apprenticeship. Something I hope to achieve to further my knowledge.

Thank you Br. John and Jestor. As it stands I have completed my oaths and my True Jedi Application (I think, I completed all of those more than a year ago). I have also completed all of the Joseph Campbell lectures and posted them in my journal. From what I can tell, my long periods of absence have made it so that Jestor simply hasn't gotten to me yet. I'm fine with it, I only hope to be notified if there is a problem with my official application, oaths, etc.

You have now been changed....

New folks are being done now....

I do contact if there is an issue....