We need you!

It is also helpful to remind people that you don't have to be a member of the Clergy, or even a Knight, to submit a sermon to be posted. I know that that held me back for a long time.

My intention with this post was really leaves the question open for those with a little more time. This month will surely be a little more difficult, people who are in college are in final exams, those who work are in season year closing.
To make a sermon, one has to really be at a certain level of training, but what matters most is that this message comes from the heart. I'm sure for some, even the most simple words can make a big difference.
So my invitation remains open

I wrote two sermons: one open, one live. Neither were used and in fact one was completely discarded in favor of another. Why should I bother?

Really?? Im so sorry. It was likely my oversite. My appologies

I get that we all make mistakes, but I had gone out of my way to notify you that the sermon was ready just a few days before it was to be published. I put it in the queue and all that was necessary to publish it was for someone with proper access to hit "publish".

My name was on the Sermon Schedule for both dates and somehow they were completely overlooked. I'm asking why I should bother signing up, putting the effort and forethought into writing them if this is the kind apathetic negligence they get? I know people are busy, but so am I and it's ridiculous that I'm being asked to write more while this issue has gone unnoticed and unaddressed.

And before anyone appeals to our "go with the flow" kind of culture here at the Temple, there's a difference between a controlled relaxed atmosphere and an atmosphere ripe with things falling apart. Why should anyone put the time and effort into a writing a sermon when they're not treated as such? The time and effort, the meaning of the sermon; all trampled on under the foot by a lack of respect.

Agreed...

Since you seem to really be put out, I would suggest you don't offer to write anymore...

Use your time for something you find worthy of your time and energy...

Same advice I would give to anyone...

I've seen years of work tossed out here, and a similar reaction...

It happens..

Genetally, it is neither "lack of respect", nor should it be taken personally...

But, that also happens...

I don't take it as a personal offense, but it was still disrespectful. Do I think Ros or anyone here is out to devalue my work? Nope. But I also think that even the most unintentional negligence can be disrespectful or harmful.

I have already started to redirect my energy to different pursuits to benefit the Temple and I'm awaiting a reply from the Synod, however because my proposal was sent in just a week before Thanksgiving and there are two Americans on the Synod, I suspect it will be another week or so before I even get an acknowledgement.

Jamie,
I want you to know that I am working on being more responsible so that this doesnt happen again.
For example, I will have emails for sermons coming to my phone. That way I can know sermons are waiting. Bruno has been helping me with reminding people of their sermons and such. Also, there was a period of time in which notifications of PMs were getting sent to my spam (for whatever reason). This position has been a learning process for me.
I'm sorry I slighted you.

Look, I don't want to get bogged down in the details of one specific case because I don't think it's going to make anything better, but for the record you did reply to my message thanking me for letting you know (that the sermon was completed and waiting in the queue) which means you received my message, read it, replied and simply didn't use the sermon I sent in for whatever reason. People got really mad at me for wanting to formalize the processes which the clergy use to do stuff and I was told not to take things so seriously, but this kind of thing was exactly why I was the way I was about it. It's not being stuffy for the sake of being stuffy, but rather trying to dignify the work people do for this Temple with the proper respect it deserves.

The clergy is disorganized and just about every naysayer (within and without the clergy) has said so, but the Synod (like all bureaucracies) is a slow-turning wheel made worse by a relaxed culture where we strive to be as flexible as possible while not acknowledging the fact that at times it's not flexibility but an absence of attentiveness. I have decided that my time would probably be better spent helping reconstruct the clergy than enable the dysfunctional lack of process which the clergy operates on.

Ok. Like I said, I'm really sorry. I don't actually remember getting a message from you. For the record, I had a look at the article manager and the only sermon I see is "Honoring Today" I'm not going to make excuses. I'm just going to commit to doing better.

Edit: Oops, was thinking of the wrong person...under duress and all. The author of that sermon was actually cryo

Jamie Stick wrote: The clergy is disorganized and just about every naysayer (within and without the clergy) has said so, but the Synod (like all bureaucracies) is a slow-turning wheel made worse by a relaxed culture where we strive to be as flexible as possible while not acknowledging the fact that at times it's not flexibility but an absence of attentiveness. I have decided that my time would probably be better spent helping reconstruct the clergy than enable the dysfunctional lack of process which the clergy operates on.

Everyone here is human and doing the best they can. They are all volunteers. To error is human and you helping is one of the best things you can do. Patience is called for. Things take time. Have faith, all will urn out well.

Peace

Jamie,
I just want to get some clarification because I dont see an unpublished sermon for the 7 or 17th of October. Once you saw the sermons in the manager were not published, did you go ahead and delete them? If not, they should still be there, but they are not.

The live service isn't in there because I didn't put that one in the queue (I had planned to do that after delivering it). The open sermon is still there when I look at the Article Manager (ID 2220).

What is the name of it?

The Blinding Darkness of Anger? Sounds a bit ominous :silly:

I took the liberty of screenshoting MY view of the sermons. To my knowledge, your sermon should have been right after Rugaad's. So here is the picture



As you can see, there is no sermon by that name in the manager. So, what I believe happened was a technical error. Is it published in the "Sermons" section on the article manager, because if it is not, I cannot see it. We cannot publish it either

The sermon sounds really interesting and I would love to read it. Perhaps you can publish it again

It does not appear to be in the 'Sermon' category, it is instead in the 'Uncategorised' category.

Adder wrote: It does not appear to be in the 'Sermon' category, it is instead in the 'Uncategorised' category.

AHA!!!

It is now in Sermons...

Give it a bit to appear...

Idk who can change things in articles besides Akkarin and Alex...

Sorry if I stepped on toes....

I'd like to get this thread back on track. Ive made a few changes to the calander. An updated version is here: https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/Weekly-Sermons-and-Live-Services/111166-2015-2016-sermon-schedule?start=10#208908
As always, my pm box is open if youd like to be added