What Kind of Jew Are You?

Why is Sephardic there but Ashkenazi isn't. Looking at it, it seems like you assume that Orthodox equates to Ashkenazi, who were only the Germanic Jews. Also, what about the Arab Jews or the Indian Jews (Yes they existed).

on a five star scale i give this chart, or am i too overwhelmed by the titling of the subject, twenty nine stars, but essene could also be branched out, Nazarite/Nazarene for one.

thank you.

Br. John wrote: This chart speaks for itself. It's remarkable thinking about this. For all in this Rite studying this is indispensable. For any student of comparative religion it's a must.

So most everyone is Christian origin?

i remember reading that roman catholicism had a lot to do with the creation of islam. or they actually wrote most of the koran.

How did Mormonism grow from Methodism?

dont mess with me i know jew jitsu

i mean, ah, shalom!

That chart is a load of rubbish. One of the many errors is the assumption that the listed religions are monolithic in the sense that they remain constant throughout their history and across geography. Not so. Judaism is itself influenced by a variety of sources and has never been monolithic.

The chart is so wrong in so many ways. The lines between religions is supposedly showing development (influence?) from one to another. So, what was Christianity before Paul if he is its first interpreter? But he was of the Pharisaic tradition so that line has to be re-drawn. Judean Christianity is a misnomer. The earliest competing tradition was Galilean or does the chart mean Jerusalem? Then that would have to be part of 1st century Judaism before the destruction of the Second Temple. After that everything changed.

Cathars? Why does this heresy get a place?

Sadducees? They ARE the Northern Tribal which is a meaningless term anyway.

i am jewbaca!

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dont be offended; im southern

(we dont have class so we make up for it in detention)

Connor L. wrote: How did Mormonism grow from Methodism?

....Good question.

the way i understood it is that joseph smit was a methodist before he had his vision and found the ancient writings which he used to become the "new moses" and write the book of mormon

It's been some many many MANY Long ages since I studied the religion of my birth (Realtives go back in mormonism since the beginning) But as I recall.... Joseph Smith wasn't any one religion, he jumped into many of them and found them all to be un-truthful. Which is what got him seeking and studying the path to god and eventually running into the woods to pray because of all the sinful relgions around him.

I could be mistaken though.

If he was ever Methodist, they sure did a lot in Sunday School to make sure we never knew about it. :whistle:

Well it is a given fact that The LDS Never taught the truth of a great many things lol After all, Joseph Smith wasn't exactly the Saint they make him out to be :laugh: But in the case of it's foundation I don't think the Charts Tree is accurate either.

Ob1Shinobi is correct: Joseph Smith joined the Methodist faith before he founded Mormonism.

ETA: But, as someone else pointed out with the other faiths on that list, Mormonism didn't take root from Methodism or in other words, its founding wasn't directly related to a schism with Methodism. Mormonism was a form of Restoration Christianity.

And as Kitsu Tails related to the full history of Mormonism not being fully in the open, there are many Mormons that don't know that Joseph Smith joined the Methodist faith AFTER he had his grand first vision where he claims God told him all other religions were wrong.

Go figure...

Kitsu, I meant that the Methodists didn't want to be associate with him.. probably for good reason. haha

LTK: I can see why that would be on the chart then. But, it's kind of a mis-representation. Methodism is nowhere near Mormonism. They aren't even closely related. dear lord...

Connor L. wrote: LTK: I can see why that would be on the chart then. But, it's kind of a mis-representation. Methodism is nowhere near Mormonism. They aren't even closely related. dear lord...

Agreed. I made an edit to my post that's inline with your comment.

i had to break up with a girl friend once because it turned out that she was even mormon than me

Congregational. Tried looking it up since it's not on your chart, but can't seem to find which denomination it branches off from.

Edit: Found some charts... It branches off of Methodist, which I'm not sure I believe, cause there are other charts that just don't list it, so I'm just confused.

Edit Again: Another chart lists it as a mix of Baptists, Methodists, and Presbyterians. Even more confused now.

I would say that unless one can prove that one is a direct descendant of the tribe of Judah, one can not be a Jew. It was more than just Jews who were at the base of mount Sinai and received the covenant laws of YHWH.

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