RANKING: Jedi Vs. Clergy
When a shunt seemed to be leaking the nurse (an LVN) had to get another nurse (the RN) to come check it since she was not qualified or allowed to do that procedure.
That’s four types of nurses with four different titles in a routine day but the Hell with it.
They are all health care professionals’; right?
So let’s just forget about those troublesome distinctions and not even have doctor, surgeon, nurse, respiratory therapist, ophthalmologist ….
Let’s just call all of them health care professionals (HCP’s) and save all the bother.
Br. John
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Regardless, I believe that I've said enough on this matter, as have you Br. Tom, it seems as though most members are waiting on a victor in this discussion to get behind, so I will voice no further opinion, untill I feel that enough of the members have voiced theirs, and not simply reiterated mine or yours. Do please remember, this is by no means an attack on you or your beliefs, I simply just feel it should be more generalized, or not at all.
DK
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When I was staying in the hospital recently with relative I noticed something. There were nurse aids, licensed vocational nurses (LVN), registered nurses (RN) and even nurse practitioners who could write prescriptions.
When a shunt seemed to be leaking the nurse (an LVN) had to get another nurse (the RN) to come check it since she was not qualified or allowed to do that procedure.
That’s four types of nurses with four different titles in a routine day but the Hell with it.
They are all health care professionals’; right?
So let’s just forget about those troublesome distinctions and not even have doctor, surgeon, nurse, respiratory therapist, ophthalmologist ….
Let’s just call all of them health care professionals (HCP’s) and save all the bother.
Br. John
Br. John, how is it that you can so easily put into words that which I cannot, LOL. Thank you for this wisdom.
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DK
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With all due respect Br. John, I agree, lets do away with it all together. Otherwise, the ones I suggested before, still have a heirarchy of experience, that correlates with Jedi type titles, therefore, would still serve the purpose of the distinct experience levels of the clergy.
DK
Again, they are not one in the same. Jedi experience does not denote experience as Clergy. To simply do away with them and replace it with one name would be like changing all the distinctions in the hospital to simply health care professional. How would they then know who was qualified to do what? That is what he is saying.
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Jedi High Cleric=Archbishop
Sr. Jedi Cleric=Bishop
Jedi Cleric=Rev.
or
High Cleric=Archbishop
Sr. Cleric=Bishop
Cleric=Rev.
These keep the titles Jedi specific and still denote the levels within the clergy, but all can be referred to as Rev. during conversation with no disrespect intended whatsoever or concern for addressing the right person the right way. You could easily use them when writting your rank and clergy level without any confusion too, i.e.,
Sr Jedi Knight/Sr Jedi Cleric
or
Sr Jedi Knight/Sr Cleric
The titles still carry the same duties and responsibility, but are not leaning towards any particular other religions titles which seems to be the ongoing conflict. There is no confusion that one carries more responsibility than the other and doesn't get confused with the Jedi ranking system and their levels of authority either. I've been following this thread and have commented on it before, but this is just my offer for how to deal with it. It is just a suggestion to deal with the subject at hand.
Awaiting comments and suggestions.....
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Non Clergy -- - Clergy
Master Jedi - Master Jedi Cleric
Sr. Jedi Knight - Sr. Jedi Knight Cleric (or just Sr. Jedi Cleric)
Jedi Knight - Jedi Knight Cleric (or just Jedi Cleric)
Jedi Apprentice - Jedi Cleric Apprentice
Jedi Initiate - Jedi Cleric Initiate (though I don't believe someone should be ordained until they are atleast an apprentice)
These represent those who do not choose to be Clergy, and those who do, They separate those with more responsibility, seniority, knowledge, experience or whatever for both for Clergy and Non Clergy. It makes distinct separation for either, and makes it quite easy to discern who to go to if you need someone for a Clergy matter, regardless of the level you need to talk to. And under no circumstance, should Jedi be left out. First and foremost, everyone of us should be a Jedi, and if your not a Jedi, you should not be any sort of member of Jediism Clergy. By denying what we are, Jedi, we are selling ourselves short. You can be a Jedi and a member of the Clergy, by taking the term Jedi out of it, it would seem you have to choose one or the other. Just some more thoughts.
DK
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