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3 quotes to think on
13 years 6 months ago #30522
by RyuJin
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Do not just memorize sayings, recite words, and discuss Zen and the way based on books. The Zen way is not in books. Even if you can recite the teachings of the whole canon and all the masters and philosophers, they are just useless words of no avail when you are facing death.
-Chien-ju
O let us live in joy, although having nothing! In joy let us live like spirits of light!
-Buddha
The truth indeed has never been preached by the Buddha, seeing that one has to realize it within oneself.
-Lamkara Sutra
the first one is a really interesting one i'll have to think on for a bit...it is pointless to memorize words and phrases, memorization is not living in the moment but preserving the past and blocking the future.
the second one i feel points out that we should be happy with what we don't have as much as with what we do have, by taking joy in everything we cease to suffer.
the third , buddha merely showed the way, it's up to the individual to take the path or not.
-Chien-ju
O let us live in joy, although having nothing! In joy let us live like spirits of light!
-Buddha
The truth indeed has never been preached by the Buddha, seeing that one has to realize it within oneself.
-Lamkara Sutra
the first one is a really interesting one i'll have to think on for a bit...it is pointless to memorize words and phrases, memorization is not living in the moment but preserving the past and blocking the future.
the second one i feel points out that we should be happy with what we don't have as much as with what we do have, by taking joy in everything we cease to suffer.
the third , buddha merely showed the way, it's up to the individual to take the path or not.
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13 years 6 months ago #30523
by Jestor
Replied by Jestor on topic Re:3 quotes to think on
I am not of this rite, so I hope I am not stepping on toes....
To me,
the first one says, what good to know the words, to read and listen to others interpetation of the words, if you don't live them.....
the second is saying do not be upset due to the lack of personal possesions, be happy for what you have....
the third, well, Buddha, your favorite teacher, your parents, or your Jedi Master, can tell you or explain till they are blue in the face... only you can make yourself see or understand the truth...
To me,
the first one says, what good to know the words, to read and listen to others interpetation of the words, if you don't live them.....
the second is saying do not be upset due to the lack of personal possesions, be happy for what you have....
the third, well, Buddha, your favorite teacher, your parents, or your Jedi Master, can tell you or explain till they are blue in the face... only you can make yourself see or understand the truth...
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13 years 6 months ago #30525
by RyuJin
Replied by RyuJin on topic Re:3 quotes to think on
these are open to all to comment on 
i post them to get people to think and interpret, we all see things in a different light

i post them to get people to think and interpret, we all see things in a different light

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13 years 6 months ago #30529
by Jestor
Replied by Jestor on topic Re:3 quotes to think on
Sweet, just being polite.......
and thank you...
and thank you...

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13 years 6 months ago #30934
by RyuJin
Replied by RyuJin on topic Re:3 quotes to think on
A buddha is one who does not seek. In seeking this, you turn away from it. The principle is the principle of nonseeking; when you seek it, you lose it.
-Pai-chang
Meditate on that which is beyond words and symbols. Forsake the demands of the self. By such forsaking you will live serenely.
-Sutta Nipata
Words! The Way is beyond language, for in it there is no yesterday no tomorrow no today.
-Seng-tsan, \"Verses on the Faith Mind\"
the first one is very similar to one of the first things i was ever told when i began studying buddhism:\" if you think you're enlightened you're not, you will not know when it happens\" by pursuing englightenment with determined focus we blind ourselves to the present experience and thus lose sight of it.
the second one is very jedi like, put others before yourself by doing this you will bring peace to others as well as yourself, whereas if you place self before others you create ill-will towards yourself from others.
the third one is, in a way, explaining the path to enlightenment. words cannot do justice in explaining the way, it is experience. not just any type of experience but experience of the moment and experience of the spirit
-Pai-chang
Meditate on that which is beyond words and symbols. Forsake the demands of the self. By such forsaking you will live serenely.
-Sutta Nipata
Words! The Way is beyond language, for in it there is no yesterday no tomorrow no today.
-Seng-tsan, \"Verses on the Faith Mind\"
the first one is very similar to one of the first things i was ever told when i began studying buddhism:\" if you think you're enlightened you're not, you will not know when it happens\" by pursuing englightenment with determined focus we blind ourselves to the present experience and thus lose sight of it.
the second one is very jedi like, put others before yourself by doing this you will bring peace to others as well as yourself, whereas if you place self before others you create ill-will towards yourself from others.
the third one is, in a way, explaining the path to enlightenment. words cannot do justice in explaining the way, it is experience. not just any type of experience but experience of the moment and experience of the spirit
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13 years 6 months ago #31089
by RyuJin
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The Buddha taught: \"Do not pursue the past. Do not lose yourself in the future. The past no longer is. The future has not yet come. Looking deeply at life as it is. In the very here and now, the practitioner dwells in stability and freedom. We must be diligent today. To wait until tomorrow is too late. Death comes unexpectedly. How can we bargain with it? The sage calls a person who knows how to dwell in mindfulness night and day 'one who knows the better way to live alone.'\"
-\"Bhaddekaratta Sutta,\" translated by Thich Nhat Hanh
Train yourself in this way: from higher to higher, from strength to strength we will strive, and we will come to realize unsurpassed freedom.
-Buddha
Where is thought? It can never be seen or even apprehended. It is like a magical illusion, for with imagination it colors the world. Searching for thought, unable to see it, a person looks for its origin. And it seems to be that where there is an object thought arises. Thought does not arise without an object. Can thought look at thought? No. Just as the blade of a sword cannot cut itself, or a fingertip touch itself, so thought cannot see thought
-Sikshasamuccaya
the first one is a pretty easy one to figure out, and goes perfectly with jediism, live in the moment, be mindful of the future but not at the expense of the present, and don't dwell on the past.
the second one can be seen as this: always strive to improve yourself, with constant improvement your free from disappointment, freedom from disappointment is an escape from suffering, an escape from suffering is enlightenment.
the third one brings to mind a lesson from philosophy about the viewer and the viewed. it could also be compared to the idea of biocentrism in which an object does not exist until we put our thoughts to it. no form, no qualities, nothing...until you think about it.
-\"Bhaddekaratta Sutta,\" translated by Thich Nhat Hanh
Train yourself in this way: from higher to higher, from strength to strength we will strive, and we will come to realize unsurpassed freedom.
-Buddha
Where is thought? It can never be seen or even apprehended. It is like a magical illusion, for with imagination it colors the world. Searching for thought, unable to see it, a person looks for its origin. And it seems to be that where there is an object thought arises. Thought does not arise without an object. Can thought look at thought? No. Just as the blade of a sword cannot cut itself, or a fingertip touch itself, so thought cannot see thought
-Sikshasamuccaya
the first one is a pretty easy one to figure out, and goes perfectly with jediism, live in the moment, be mindful of the future but not at the expense of the present, and don't dwell on the past.
the second one can be seen as this: always strive to improve yourself, with constant improvement your free from disappointment, freedom from disappointment is an escape from suffering, an escape from suffering is enlightenment.
the third one brings to mind a lesson from philosophy about the viewer and the viewed. it could also be compared to the idea of biocentrism in which an object does not exist until we put our thoughts to it. no form, no qualities, nothing...until you think about it.
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