Tao Te Ching - your preferred translation?

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02 Nov 2013 22:37 - 02 Nov 2013 22:38 #123474 by
There's a vast multitude of takes on Lao Tzu's timeless work out there and no real consensus on which is best, as so much of it comes down to personal preference. Which is your favourite translation?

I like a few - of the more "legitimate" translations my favourite is the Addiss and Lombardo version .

But probably my favourite of all is Ron Hogan's version , which takes a variety of translations and synthesises them into a modern-language snappy dialogue remaster. There's something beautiful about seeing the great leveller Lao Tzu's words presented with such little ceremony, in totally modern language - and, for the most part, the original meaning (or a version of it, which is all that's available in translation anyway) remains pretty much unobstructed:

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If you can talk about it,
it ain't Tao.
If it has a name,
it's just another thing.

Tao doesn't have a name.
Names are for ordinary things.

Stop wanting stuff. It keeps you from seeing what's real.
When you want stuff, all you see are things.

These two statements have the same meaning.
Figure them out, and you've got it made.

There's room for mysticism and that classic crystalline terseness, but for me there's also room for a little affectionate irreverence.

Additional love for the Derek Lin and Ursula Le Guin translations for their detail and simplicity, respectively.

For reference, this is the best site I've found for links to complete translations .
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02 Nov 2013 23:35 #123482 by
i was told that like the quran, it is really only useful in the original language. hence why there are so many versions of this thing, with quite a few differences between them.

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02 Nov 2013 23:46 #123483 by
Well, I'm sure the original is superior in every respect, but not being able to read Classical Chinese I've still learnt a great deal from various translations over the years. The translations have certainly been of practical and spiritual use to me!

Perhaps reading them in this way, being exposed to a variety of different interpretations and then forming our own opinion of what is meant/relevant/valid is more valuable than texts which only maintain a single version?

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02 Nov 2013 23:54 - 02 Nov 2013 23:55 #123484 by
nah, mostly i was just messing with you, man. i personally dont care which version you use, as it seems to me to be a mental/spiritual rorschach test anyway. you read into it pretty much whatever you want.
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02 Nov 2013 23:59 #123485 by
I would give my left arm to read the first biblical new testament manuscript in greek. O_O MMMM

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03 Nov 2013 00:17 #123487 by
Connor

I found this earlier today.

http://www.myriobiblos.gr/bible/default.asp

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03 Nov 2013 00:20 #123488 by Proteus

Connor Lidell wrote: I would give my left arm to read the first biblical new testament manuscript in greek. O_O MMMM


I think I read that once... turns out Jesus's abilities might've been a bit exaggerated...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3rLof2cnzg

:P

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03 Nov 2013 00:31 #123490 by
Stephen Mitchell
a new english version
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03 Nov 2013 00:40 #123491 by
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The tao that can be told
is not the eternal Tao.
The name that can be named
is not the eternal Name.

The unnamable is the eternally real.
Naming is the origin
of all particular things.

Free from desire, you realize the mystery.
Caught in desire, you see only the
manifestations.

Yet mystery and manifestations
arise from the same source.
This source is called darkness.

Darkness within darkness.
The gateway to all understanding.

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03 Nov 2013 01:03 #123493 by
My working version for the past ten years (recommended by a native Mandarin-speaking colleague):

Tao Te Ching, translated by Stephen Addiss & Stanley Lombardo, Hackett Publishing Company, 1993.

"Names can name no lasting name.

Nameless the origin of heaven and earth.
Naming: the mother of ten thousand things.

Empty of desire, perceive mystery.
Filled with desire, perceive manifestations.

These have the same source, but different names.
Call them both deep -
Deep and again deep:

The gateway to all mystery."

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