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27 May 2009 10:45 #23230 by Garm
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Is there anyone who follows this path?

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02 Jun 2009 16:28 #23273 by
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I suppose I naturally lean towards this rite more than anything else - or at least a 50/50% mix of this and pureland

but you know me - im not into the 'rites' thing personally anyway ;)

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30 Jun 2009 00:13 #23895 by
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I believe this would be the rite I lean the furthest twards.

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30 Jun 2009 04:25 - 30 Jun 2009 04:26 #23918 by Br. John
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It is not necessary for a Jedi to believe Jediism is a religion. Even if one holds that Jediism is not a religion or that s/he does not hold it to be his / her personal religion such an one may nonetheless be a member in good standing and earn rank.

This is because belief actually has little to nothing to do with religion.

That statement requires an essay to explain and I'm working on it.

Stay tuned. Please feel free to muse and post about this.

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p.s. Asta did you see this? ;)

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30 Jun 2009 05:23 #23926 by Garm
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My first stop on the rite bus ride was Pureland - it seemed the perfect choice because it was standalone Jedi.

Perhaps it remains the closest to my heart especially with Br. Johns words \"belief actually has little to nothing to do with religion\".

It has taken me some time to fully understand that faith can apply to many things besides religion as well.

The road I chose for my jedi journey has been full of curves, blind corners and cliff side cowpaths. I think it is time to turn onto route 66...not general order 66 :cheer: - but route 66.

I look forward to reading your essay Br.

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30 Jun 2009 06:23 #23929 by
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who says order 66 isnt sometimes a good idea :p

Personally - I dont quite feel pureland covers 'everything' for me but without getting complicated - lets say it covers about 50% - another 45% being (probably) the humanism bit and 5% buddhist (in as much as I believe the bushido code has a lot to offer a jedi)

but to be brutally honest - i dont think rites are entirely important (in their own right) - if one wished to ascribe to one - then - uuumm their decision - i do have 'questions' on how certain rites can co-exist in terms of both sides of the coin (namely abrahamic - im sure your average islamic cleric or indeed catholic priest would have something to say against co-habiting faiths (so to speak))

anyway - just my view and a topic discussed elsewhere if your new and interested

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30 Jun 2009 10:41 #23938 by
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This is the closest thing to my current path. Even though most that know me already here know that I am from the pagan rite. But I am who I am.

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30 Jun 2009 11:04 #23940 by Garm
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I agree Br. Rich. Now that we are gaining bodies maybe we should start a few threads here to look at the bushido code and such.

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30 Jun 2009 11:14 #23941 by
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ive already posted an ebook version of THE most accurate description (in a western language)

I cant remember the host address I used off hand - but use the search tool at the top of the page and type bushido and you ought to get it

I believe BrJohn was considering adding it to the compulsory reading list for initiates/apprentices (very easy read - 6hours max from start to finish)

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30 Jun 2009 12:24 #23949 by Garm
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I have a copy of that file Kana, I think it is on my zip drive

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30 Jun 2009 13:00 - 30 Jun 2009 13:02 #23951 by
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its worth a read - im not sure if itsa still available in proper paper version anymore - i got mine from amazon a few years ago - for about £6 - i know it can be hard to find and thats why I 'backed it uop' and posted it here ;)

be sure to rread all of the book - the preface explains why it has a certain style (ie it was written for the British/European Victorians by someone from Japan)

sometimes it can feel out of date or stilted - but now you know why ;) the points remain as valid and valuable though.
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01 Jul 2009 10:50 #23997 by
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I would have to say I would be apart of this rite.

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10 Aug 2009 18:39 #25327 by
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Just a bump - mainly for newcomers who may have otherwise missed this thread (please also reply to the other rites roll calls if this one isnt for you)

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10 Aug 2009 22:12 #25328 by Br. John
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Confucianism - Philosophy or Religion? There's a lively debate about this and its been around a long time.

For various reasons some people don't claim Jediism as a religion yet find value in most of its precepts.

As TOTJO is a charitable, religious and educational organization this is a bona fide group of members. Is Jediism a religion? The courts of the states and the United States must say yes but that's a special circumstance.

Churches are communities. This is a community. Jediism is a wide net.

This is also for the class of member who is interested in fellowship and study but has a private religious philosophy or other reasons for being a secular member.

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14 Aug 2009 01:57 #25347 by
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I could possibly fall under this \"Rite\"

Though this Rite seems to have to least amount of information, maybe thats a good thing. Im really not sure if I personally can see Jediism as a religion, for the simple fact that religion is...

\"a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs\". (www.dictionary.com)

I see the path of the Jedi as a way of life, not religion, and that it can co-exist with other religions but as for being a religion in and of itself...I cant say it is. Jedi do not worship gods, idols, or statues. Jedi live to better themselves, and in bettering themselves they can pass this on to others, to understand the multi-verse and the Force.

I can not say for sure that I will define myself to this rite, as I need to read into the pure Land a bit more...but from the glimpses i've caught of it it seems to be a bit too much like Wicca for me, and you can see my views on Wicca in my new members area post.

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14 Aug 2009 11:16 #25355 by Garm
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Ahh... I understand what it is you are saying Sradac

The beauty of our system is that one can belong to any Rite, or none or even all really...I head up the Buddhist Rite but my numbers are more like:

Spiritual Humanist 40%
Buddhist 40%
Pureland 10%
Pagan 10%

One can post and or create threads in any of the Rites no matter which or lack of belonging to any particular Rite.

The journey of Jediism often takes one along many paths, detours and u-turns. Each path opens new thoughts that are somewhat unique in application and practice but as you gain experience you may find that the roots of all share a somewhat common base.

Taste all the flavours of knowledge and stay hungry ;)

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03 Jul 2011 09:09 #40143 by
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I would say I follow this rite the most.

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