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    • What are you reading right now? (Last post by hellisforhorses)
    • Quote: @Arcade: "Kadavermarch" (March of the cadavers) was one of the defining books for me growing up :) Currently I'm reading Hunter Thompson's "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" which is by far one of the weirdest and most brilliant books I've ever read. Just got a fresh copy after the last one literally fell apart. Next up on the list is "Last Exit to Brooklyn" by Hubert Selby Jr. That book is pretty trippy, but super-awesome at the same time! :)
    • The Whole? (Last post by Adder)
    • For me, its about exercising different points of view but then extending that, and multiplying it to a persistent and broader level of reflections - like rolling marbles out of a lawn and having a thousand eyes seeing the world in slightly different angles. There are practical benefits to exercising a different point of view in understanding others of course, and breaking out of established bias, but developing that idea of a greater view of the whole tends to reshape how one see's themselves because we only have so much resource internally to achieve some nature of that view. That is sort of how I approach the question. I'm not saying its good or bad though :S
    • How massive is a supermassive blackhole? (Last post by Adder)
    • How massive!? Depends how close you are :lol: I read a few days ago a NASA simulation of the destruction of dark matter produced what looks like a black hole. Here is a pic, the brighter colors are Gamma rays rushing towards the camera/POV as they interact close to the event horizon. Perhaps all the 'dark matter' is within black holes, or not... [attachment] Gamma-Ray Signal Produced in the Computer Simulation by Annihilations of Dark Matter Particles NASA/GODDARD SPACE FLIGHT CENTER
    • Rituals Needed Today (Last post by Adder)
    • Quote: Quote: Ritual almost has a negative connotation with me, as in 'routine' but I think it points to how I see it - I try to make everything spiritually significant While I agree with this approach to a fairly large degree, it is important to note that things are defined by their "opposites." Just as you cannot conceptualize light without the contrasting darkness, or fullness without knowing what emptiness is, the ability for something to be sacred or "spiritually significant" relies on the demarcation between it and the mundane or "insignificant." In short, to paraphrase the Incredibles' villain, "If everything's sacred, nothing is." I hedge that by the awareness of my shifts in focus :lol: I'm always ignoring something lol!
    • Jedi Beleive (Last post by Spenserhawk)
    • Quote: So I will be getting a little pedantic here, thus bare with me, please. Also, I have to disclaim that I for one find it, let's say, pretentious to be able to just declare what all Jedi believe, especially considering that TOTJO is a place where nobody would ever be called less of a Jedi for not believing any particular of these points; that to the point, where I have seen people who frequent this place argue that the death penalty may be defendable on, say, financial grounds, as if that were at all relevant, and I have seen people argue absolute morality (though be it not the absoluteness of moral concepts, as it were) on this very site, too. Now on we go to my trademark nitpicking (i.e. take it with a grain of... well, of sugar, really for splitting hairs is what this is and not strictly any definitive disagreement): To start off with a genuine hair-splitting exercise, the first line doesn't say "everything in the universe" but "all life within [the Force]". It says that Jedi believe in that Force, not necessarily that it is present throughout all of existence, though undoubtedly a great number of Jedi believe that, too. The second line doesn't say much about respect. One could argue that the human person is more than its flesh and extend the proposed sanctity thereof to mean a prescription of respect, but the text does not quite grant that on its own, and we might be better off stretching it as little as possible. I think the line only says that we ought not damage anyone mentally (as opposed to physically covered in the previous line). The fourth line says that we believe in a society that does not discriminate on the mentioned grounds. I suppose by extension some other grounds may be added to the list. However, nobody can be commanded to accept anyone. We are, individually, free to reject anyone for any reason. However, society and large should not on principle reject people of particular superficial properties. In other words, we believe in equality before the law and peaceful coexistence under it. The next line also I don't find says anything about either respect or benefit. The Ethic of Reciprocity is more than a clear reference to the Golden Rule, since both are technical terms used to refer to the same thing. The rest of the line points to the different conceptions of morality beside and despite it. It does not say that all are applicable to some extent or another, let alone that we individually ought seek them out and find our best mix, although that is a view defensible by itself. In my opinion the line cautions us against prejudice and preconception. People are different and we ought not expect everyone to behave in the ways we deem proper at all time nor judge them on the strictest forms of our own standards as if they were the only ones before we have at least a rudimentary understanding of their moral reasoning. Not much to add to the third last line. Where the third line proposed compassion as a guiding principle in forming societal laws, no other line includes acceptance and at this point I concede that maybe what we mean by that word isn't quite the same thing. Maybe what you mean is what I'd call acknowledging, we'd be on the same page with what the line seems to say. Accepting to me sounds like being less critical and more welcoming than that, both of which have their place in principle but also should be applied with moderation in practice. And to wrap it up I shall nitpick the word "follow" in your interpretation of the second last line. If by that you mean that we should be free to believe and think as we do and whenever we do, I agree that this seems to be what the line is saying. Follow can also mean follow through with, however, and seeing as the line speaks specifically of the freedom of conscience, I don't think it means to advocate the right to do all sorts of potentially dangerous rituals people keep constantly coming up with. Thanks for your views on my interpretations. They have definitely given me a of more to be thinking about...cheers, Lee
    • Is all altruism selfish? (Last post by Edan)
    • This isn't an answer to my own question, but I thought that those who have read the thread might find this interesting. I've just found research paper where the researchers found that the more spiritual you are, the more compassion you have and the more altruistic you are, but how religious you are has little bearing on how altruistic you are. Spiritual people are more altruistic than religious people. Food for thought I guess.
    • Workout Check-In Thread (Last post by Luthien)
    • Yesterday 3x5 Overhead Press 3x8 Incline Bench Press 3x10 Good Morning 3x30 Shrug 1x20 Crunch 1x20 Leg Lift Today 3x5 Deadlift 3x10 Hack Squat 3x10 Good Morning 3x8 Pull-up 1x15 Leg lift 2x12 Glute-Ham Raise
    • Changes to the Membership Application.... (Last post by Alexandre Orion)
    • Cheers, Jestor ... :cheer: We'll be standing by to field all of the "why can't I get to the application ??" questions. Somehow, I doubt there'll be that many. Now, if we did this next January ... well ... :S Is all of the information about the application time/delay period changed yet ? After all, we don't want to be telling people that they have to fill out an application that they can't get to .. ;)
    • Light bubbles dont work (Last post by steamboat28)
    • To put your stance into its proper context, I will change every reference of "light bubble" into something that it approximates in the physical world. Quote: the value of the bubble self-defense class is that it helps settle oneself into ones energy body and it bolsters ones confidence as an exercise in visualization physical training it has benefits ; just like every other visualization physical training exercise - you could visualize train yourself in a mickey mouse suit and it would have exactly the same effect energetically physically and mentally i understand people have been using these forever and no one is going to stop simply because i say something - the fact that people do them doesnt change the fact that they are unecessary psychic energy physical strength is very much like light or sound or radio waves youre not going to build a wall of radio waves to keep out the other radio waves you disagree, fine yes, its what people are taught; excellent it makes you feel better; great, have fun never-the-less; a persons durability and energetic physical fortitude is a result of their birth, nutrition (which is much more than just food btw - people often forget that what we attach our emotions and our thoughts to is also an extremely important type of nutrition - its probably the FOUNDATION of personal nutrition really) behavior and lifestyle, overall physical health, mental development (which is not the same thing as I.Q.), personal discipline, emotional intelligence, and basically what rooster cogburn refers to as "grit" So while you may think them useless and unnecessary, the point is this sort of stance is potentially dangerous, especially to people new to energy work, psychic abilities, or any other non-physical chi-based mojo one happens to believe in.
    • Does "love" work? (Last post by Streen)
    • Quote: Its amusing how selfish you were in this. Selfish? The questions were personal: Quote: what role does love play in your view of child molesters? have you ever had the "broken heart" experience? betrayal by those you loved? Even if the questions were not meant to be personal, who am I to say what others should believe about child molesters, broken hearts, and betrayal? I only know how they affect me, not how they affect others. But that's all beside the point. I see the Force as Love for these reasons... The universe includes all. No matter how evil a person is, he/she is still part of the universe. The universe is made of energy. That energy is the Force. The Force is all-inclusive. What is more inclusive than Love? Love is nothing more than the acknowledgement that all is One.
    • Selecting the right vitamins (Last post by Alexandre Orion)
    • Quote: I want to start taking a multivitamin, but I am unsure how to find the one that's right for me that will give me the best health benefits. I am also unsure how to judge the quality of the different brands available especially since I know that the government does not regulate them. Any suggestions for what to look for would be awesome. (If it helps I'm a 29 year old woman. ) Hello, Keladry -- I'm just curious as to "why" you want to take something ... How do you feel ? Do you feel that you need something because you are fatigued ? is there something ailing you physically ? feeling a lack of concentration ? memory difficulties (beyond the ordinary frailty of human memory, that is) ? What leads you to believe that you need a multivitamin ? Now, I'm not some crunchy, hippie "all-natural" prat ... I get my share of conveniences from the chemist's too. But, you haven't told us how you feel, just that you want to take the stuff. And just wanting something can have some pretty flimsy reasons for it. ;)

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