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    • Nature - Animals (Last post by Mareeka)
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    • what about gaia ? (Last post by Gisteron)
    • Pretty much wherever you stick it. That's the beauty of Jediism, it is whatever you make it. Then again, so is the Gaia thing. Some take it seriously, others understand it as useful or true in the sense in which Campbell would say things are true, yet others find it an interesting consideration with some moral implications, and all of them have a reasonably different understanding on what the Gaia proposition even says. And due to that vagueness it enjoys the ancient benefit of unfalsifiability, which, in turn, feeds back to push for more vagueness underneath. Point in case, if you like it, take it. There is no wrong way of doing so, as it were.
    • Making of a Jedi Warrior (Last post by OB1Shinobi)
    • this conversation took place on the Wall; Locksley: The most desirable outcome of any street fight is that it never happens. OB1Shinobi: i appreciate the sentiment for peace - imo the most desirable outcome of any kind of fight is that one acts according to ones principles and does not lose ones mindfulness to fear or to bad temper PaintedWarrior: Sometimes there is a need for violence to achieve Peace. However, this can only be achieved when the defender can realise when the line has been reached to sufficiency, and does not cross the line and become the aggressor. Locksley Choosing to defend is a worthy cause, but a risky one, especially in the complex world we live in today. At what point is that line crossed? How will the defender know when he has crossed it? Will his superiors tell him? Will he tell himself? Defense can be altered to mean "strike first", but is striking first really defense? Is it sticking to the letter of the law, versus the spirit of the law? Perhaps someone should create a thread to discuss this - it's interesting ----- so the basic issue is "when is it appropriate to fight?" and "what are the boundaries?" im going on the following presuppositions 1) there is a part of our psyches which has developed specifically to be a hunter and a fighter. the process of this development began whenever life began / in other words there is a part of us that is very, very old 2) most people have no form of prey except for other humans; as a result we turn this part of ourselves against our own species in various ways 3) it is not appropriate - generally speaking - to hunt other humans as prey 4) it is not appropriate to allow other humans to make us into prey 5) the dominance impulse and the predatory impulse can be separated as topics; certain things can be easily seen to fall into instances of ego battles or "pissing contests" on the one hand, and into deliberate predatory attacks on the other 6) the easiest way to understand the difference between them is that someone in predator mode is basically determined to impose their will upon their target, whatever that may be, without any sort of compromise being an option whereas ego battles are actually more about NOT LOSING when youre dealing with someone in predator mode there are only a few ways the situation can go they get what they want they curb their predatory impulse they lose one of those things is going to happen exactly how any of them happen is situational starting with ego imo it is not necessary to "lose in order to win" in an ego situation make it clear that you are not going to be dominated or pushed around but do it in a way that allows the other person to save face and not look bad and you will be fine people defending their egos dont really want to fight - that is the defining characteristic of an ego confrontation they dont want to be pushed around and they dont want to look like a weakling or a coward, and thats pretty much the extent of their psychological commitment predators dont want to fight either but the predator is convinced he has a definitive advantage (and as a general rule he does) even if that is simply that he is sure that he can beat you if it comes to a fight someone who really wants to fight is rare - most dont want the risk of a real fight, they just want to win, or to get something specific anyone who is looking to take something from you - whether its your pride or your wallet/purse or your life - is considered a predator the boundaries of how to respond to a predator are going to depend on what they want and what methods they use to get it imo the first thing to do when you feel like a situation is dangerous, regardless of what that is, is to breath sounds funny maybe - but everything begins with the breath, and how you breath is going to determine the way your system responds to the stress of the moment and that is a physiological fact, so BREATH the next thing to do is to analyse these rules apply to any situation that represents danger when this means dealing with a person, look at them, judge them, appraise what state they are in and what they really want, not by what they say but by what you see a big thing that people do when they get afraid is they cant bring themselves to really look at what theyre afraid of no matter what the situation is, you have much more to fear from being too afraid to look closely at whats going on you have to keep your mind in a state of ACTivity instead of REACTivity, and that starts with breath and then analysis if you decide to fight against a predator my suggestion is that rather than seeing it as "fighting back" or "standing up for yourself" you view it as you being the predator and making them into a prey species in most cases the situation wouldnt be happening if you had a fair chance to "win" so you need to get your head in the gear of how to really just straight out end their ability to hurt you in a quick and decisive way if its ok to run away and you belive that you can outrun them then go for it if you get the chance as far as the bounds of what level of force is appropriate, my advice is that you should allow ego battlers a way out without losing face and youll be fine you should treat predators as being dangerous if all they want is to humiliate you then you may be able to get them out of predator mode by making it very clear that you will be more trouble than its worth to them if you have the ability to show them that you are a predator yourself then possibly you can get them to switch from predator brain to ego brain, or from the "im dangerous" feeling to the "im in danger" feeling things that know they are in legitimate danger would rather compromise a truce than battle it out if they want something material then its usually the smart thing to just give them what they want imo its just as ok to give a mugger your wallet or a bully your pride as it is to put him into a coma; whichever you think is appropriate and you think you can do some people are sad enough that i would rather give them my wallet than hurt them some are mean enough that i would feel better knowing they were in a coma some i wouldnt have a choice about either way because theyre just out of my league youve got to make the determination of how to respond based on the person and the moment what i hope all of us will always be able to do when we deal with people under any circumstance is to make our decisions based on what we calculate as being appropriate to the moment, rather than on the impulses of fear or rage if you can keep to that principle then you should be ok most places have "self defense" laws which allow you to protect yourself so long as you dont chase someone down and hurt them or attack them from behind (if you shoot someone in the back as they run for instance) and you dont use a weapon against a weaponless person unless they have you trapped and you dont beat them too much after they are helpless i suggest doing a web search or asking a LEO in your area to find out the specifics
    • From time to time a poem (Last post by elizabeth)
    • The space that flows between us howls with icy wind, Finger tip trails swirl around me They penetrate my heart Hollow I bend, my knees hit the floor. My hands slam down to catch The weight of unspoken words Beaten down my breath escapes Whispered sorrow that catches in the wind, And is torn away, Unheard, Softly I crumble, No room for life, Nothing left but tears that flow aimlessly, To splash beside my tattered dreams. No one sees, Hidden by my shadow I watch, As carelessly you walk your path, No thoughts cross your mind Already forgotten, already past, The earth tumbles over, A shroud to give me warmth, Shelter from watchful sorrows. It enfolds me and grateful I rest, As one within the bitter ground
    • How Do You Save the World? (Last post by Ariane)
    • Thanks for your posts Deciding to save the world and what change can be made, for most of us its an assessment of what we value. Humans value things that are desirable and necessary and we want to improve ourselves and strip away bad or undesirable traits in ourselves it's our personal approach, to change ourselves. However lets just say that humans saved the planet and more correctly that we 'saved the planet from ourselves' and that we did indeed became self-sufficient every single human had enough food and shelter. And that we had saved the world from unclean fossil fuels. It would have taken a financial investment of money to save the biosphere and if everyone worked to heal our planet and had achieved it, it would have cost us 300 quadrillion dollars to achieve. Could humans raise that much money before its too late and save the planet, perhaps not, we all will suffer climate change and worsening weather. No one will ever raise enough money in the near future to save the biosphere. Which is the most necessary resource we humans have. Our most desirable resource is Anti-Matter which would become a valuable resource for its power and energy and could be a cleaner source of energy than oil. To see how much it costs to heal the planet I believe the only solution is mass producing another energy source called Anti-Matter which is worth 65 trillion dollars per gram. But since we only have 5 trillion dollars of us dollars and a total combined value of all fiat currencies in the world is $60 trillion. It seems no one could afford to buy antimatter either. :lol: I expect that saving the world would cost a lot of money and if it were possible today to solve the problems by spending money then it wouldn't be a problem. But climate change is not something you can throw money at and neither can we reject technology and live in harmony with nature like our ancestors. However the solution to our problem of climate change and our addiction to fossil fuels is also much cheaper and in the future when saving the world becomes cost effective we will throw money at it.
    • Live Service - Friday, 1 May 2015 at 17:30 UTC (Last post by V-Tog)
    • Quote: Quote: The next service is today... the time has changed from the time in the thread title. If you look at V-Tog's last post above, she gives a link to tell you what time it will be where you are. Yes, great, thank You BUT As I said it was too late for me so I asked when is next service So? And question - what is "service"? Is it lecture? I've red sermon, but this is about five minutes? The current schedule can be found here. The next live service is scheduled for 7th May, but the time hasn't been announced yet. You'll have to keep an eye out for another announcement thread similar to this one! A live service usually consists of the line-by-line delivering of a sermon, a line-by-line recitation of the TOTJO Creed (you repeat/type each line after the Minister) and sometimes other elements such as prayers, meditations, music, discussion, etc. I would say that on average they tend to last somewhere around about 30 minutes or so, but it can vary a lot depending on what the Minister decides to include.
    • Tree of reflection (Last post by Slebo)
    • Think I might do that and use it as my daily que from the daily hustle and bustle to make time to tend and meditate. Could even be the centerpiece of a prayer shrine. Thanks again. :cheer:
    • AGE OF ULTRON (Last post by TheDude)
    • I saw a low quality video camera capture of it through, uh, totally legal means. ;) The movie was good. I was never a big Ultron fan but they did really well. I'll watch it again when it's on Netflix for sure.
    • General detachment (Last post by OB1Shinobi)
    • personally i find it fascinating to watch people whenever im in a crowd i find myself just intermittently observing for probably an hour or two and ive never felt like i was "part" of "humanity" in any greater sense than that i am human to quote jim morrison; "people are strange" imo the real question is: to what extent can (and/or SHOULD) we apply detachment to our own experiences?
    • Are Jedi Against Deception (Last post by Arkayik)
    • How can one be against something which is so deeply part of us? We are so easily deceived by so many agencies including most notably ourselves... The art of illusion (prestidigitation) amuses and entertains us. Riddles and jokes are based upon deception. Chess is the art of unveiled deception. We are deceived because we can be, it is built-in to our neural paths. What is there to be against...?
    • sithism (Last post by Sven One)
    • just my personal opinion but, As a Abrahamic Jedi and before becoming a jedi. I always thought it was intresting to know why people believe in certain things. I have studied multiple religions and "cults" its very intresting to read why they believe it. Nothing wrong with it I feel it helps better understand why they do but, also brings a respect and peace toward that. I used to be a hard nosed Christian and used to be very unacceptable of other beliefs outside my own Until, that day I opened my understanding...big changed in my life. now I love for people to share their beliefs and love them for who they are and for what they believe. Mind you I dont believe in religious folks who cause harm to others. I dont agree with that. But, if you feel the need try it.

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