Christian Wisdom of the Jedi Masters

Moderators: Adder, Adhara

Christian Wisdom of the Jedi Masters 22 Jun 2007 06:07 #3442

  • Twsoundsoff
  • Twsoundsoff's Avatar
I know I've spoken about this book before but I just finished reading it again and I wanted to share with you my favorite chapters.

Christian Wisdom of the Jedi Masters: Chapters 8, 10 and 30
Dick Staub


Dick Staub is an award-winning broadcaster, writer and speaker whose work focuses on interpreting faith and culture. The director of the Center for Faith and Culture and an adjunct professor at Seattle Pacific University, he is also the radio personality behind the Dick Staub Show, an award-winning, nationally syndicated daily broadcast he hosted for fifteen years. He serves on the board of Image: A Journal of Religion & the Arts and plays a strategic role in the C.S. Lewis Society.

Chapter 8: The Seeker Is Sought

You're referring to the prophecy of the one who will bring balance to the Force. . . . You believe it's this boy? Bring him before us, then.
—Mace Windu, to Qui-Gon Jinn (Star Wars: Episode I: The Phantom Menace)

For the Son of Man came to seek out and to save the lost.
—Jesus (Luke 19:10)


Upon becoming aware of the Force, and seeing the work of the dark side in the murder of his Uncle and Aunt, Luke Skywalker was immediately eager to seek more knowledge, asking to accompany Obi-Wan on his journey to the planet Alderaan in order to learn the ways of this mystical energy and become a Jedi. As the Chinese proverb promises, when the pupil is ready the teacher will come; Obi-Wan and eventually Yoda both responded to the sincerity of Luke's initiative.

All spiritual traditions acknowledge the seeker's journey toward the spiritual dimension, but a distinguishing and defining characteristic of the Christian faith is the pursuit of the seeker by the Lord of the Force. Yours is not a one-way quest toward becoming a Jedi in Christian terms; the Lord of the Force is, and has always been, seeking you.

The Christmas story relates how God, the Father, runs to meet us. The manger scene heralds Jesus' arrival on earth, but the deeper truth of God physically sending His son for our salvation proclaims that ultimately it is God who actively searches for spiritual seekers. \"God so loved the world that He sent his only son into the world,\" or as The Message puts it, \"the Word became flesh and blood, and moved into the neighborhood.\"

A central theme in many of Jesus' parables is God's search for the lost. An old woman has ten coins, loses one, and sweeps her floor looking for the one lost coin; a shepherd leaves the ninety-nine sheep and will not give up until he finds the one that is missing. Perhaps the most famous of these stories is the one of the prodigal son, in which a young man has taken his share of his father's estate, and after squandering his wealth in wild living he finally comes to his senses and heads home. Even in this story, the father, who has been watching for him, sees him while he is still far away, inspiring novelist Tobias Wolfe to describe these words as the most beautiful in the English language: \"His father, when he saw him coming, ran to meet him.\"

Why is it important to know that the Lord of the Force is seeking you while you are seeking Him? The genuine seeker needs reassurance that though the dark side exploits diversions to inhibit our search for God, it cannot restrain the Lord of the Force from seeking us out. The light of God's love is too intense to be dimmed by the dark side. The old hymn encourages the seeker: \"O the deep, deep love of Jesus, vast, unmeasured, boundless, free! Rolling as a mighty ocean, in its fullness over me! Underneath me, all around me, is the current of God's love!\" God's pursuit - is relentless, reminiscent of the Clannad song featured in the The Last of the Mohicans, about one who will find us no matter where we go, even if it takes a thousand years.

Knowing that God is seeking the seeker helps us avoid the pride that comes with seeing ourselves as the noble and heroic character in the drama of the spiritual
search. To believe that the primary search is ours, that we seek a God who is apparently indifferent toward us, implies that our love for God is somehow greater or deeper than His love for us.

Furthermore, even though some people sincerely seek God, often the last thing humans desire is to find or be found by God. C. S. Lewis, once an agnostic,
astutely observed that \"amiable agnostics will talk cheerfully about 'man's search for God.' To me, as I then was, they might as well have talked about the
mouse's search for the cat!\" This is why some people, though found by God, foolishly choose to remain with the dark side. Polls regularly indicate that more than 80 percent of Americans are spiritual seekers, yet is it possible that God has already sought and found many of these seekers, who, after given the chance to know God, choose to retain their autonomy rather than yield to the authority of the Lord of the Force?

Jesus promises that those who seek will find, because he knows God pursues and finds those who search for Him. In our fallenness we are sometimes blind to the God who is already here, but once seekers find God His presence is so obvious that they often wonder how they missed it for so long. The late theologian Catherine M. LaCugna puts it this way: \"One finds God because one is already found by God. Anything we would find on our own would not be God.\"

The late Henri Nouwen came to this realization after years of struggling to know and find God and then described his radical change in outlook once he realized God had been trying to find, know, and love him all along. \"The question is not, 'How am I to find God?' but 'How am I to let myself be found by him?' The question is not 'How am I to know God?' but 'How am I to let myself be known by God?' And, finally, the question is not 'How am I to love God?' but 'How am I to let myself be loved by God?'\"

Aspiring Jedi, your success in seeking the Lord of the Force requires putting down your guard and allowing the Lord of the Force to find, know, and love you, just as you are.

Chapter 10: Don't Miss the Big Reveal

Lost a planet, Master Obi-Wan has. How embarrassing.
—Yoda (Star Wars: Episode II: Attack of the Clones)

Long ago God spoke to our ancestors in many and various ways by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son.
—Hebrews 1:1-2


Jedi Master Obi-Wan is searching for an assassin from the planet Kamino, but the location doesn't show up in the comprehensive galaxy maps archived at the Jedi Academy. Madame Jocasta Nu, a Jedi archivist, concludes that the planet doesn't exist. Obi-Wan insists he heard descriptions of this planet long ago from a reliable and trustworthy friend, and he surmises aloud that the archives are incomplete. Yoda mocks Obi-Wan: \"Lost a planet, Master Obi-Wan has. How embarrassing. . . .\"

Finally one of the \"younglings,\" a child and prospective Jedi in training, suggests that Obi-Wan go just south of the Rishi Maze, in the quadrant where he believes the \"invisible\" planet is located, and then follow the pull of gravity to its center. Following this inductive process allows Obi-Wan to discover the
\"missing\" planet few believed existed.

When REM's Michael Stipe wrote the lyrics for I've Been High, he surrounded himself with dozens of spiritual books and manuscripts, among them the Bible. The song hauntingly chronicles the possibility of seeking and not finding the elusive truth that is right in front of you, somehow missing what he calls \"the
big reveal.\" Although our pure intellectual knowledge of God is forever shrouded in the cloud of unknowing, significant revelations from scripture and our experience of Him allow devoted seekers to discover what cannot be grasped by the mind alone. Tragically, many people miss the biggest reveal of all: God's revelation of Himself to humans.

Among God's big reveals is the created natural order, which conveys a complexity, magnitude, scope, and intelligence of design that all point toward God as a Force deserving our worship and praise. Also, the Apostle Paul describes the law of God as \"written in our hearts,\" a reference to human conscience as the internal, universally revealed moral law known to all humans and hinting at the existence of a moral force and personality who is the author of that law. Following the gravitational pull of nature and moral law alone are enough to pull the seeker irresistibly to God, but there is more. The Jedi possess archives of Jedi wisdom, and so do aspiring Christians, whose Holy Scriptures, inspired by the Lord of the Force, describe human rebellion and announce God's loving pursuit of His wayward children.

Christians, in the spirit of the Jedi, gain insight and understanding from another reveal, the most stunning of all, reported by the writer of Hebrews: \"Long ago God spoke to our ancestors in many and various ways by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom he also created the worlds. He is the reflection of God's glory and the exact imprint of God's very being, and he sustains all things by his powerful word.\" This Son, of course, is Jesus.

Today, virtually everyone who knows of Jesus describes him as a great moral teacher and prophet. It is true he lived an exemplary life, but he also claimed to die for our sins and promised to defeat death by his resurrection from the dead on the third day. Then his disciples report that just before they saw him ascend into heaven, he explicitly told them he would prepare a place for his followers and one day would return for them. To stop short of accepting Jesus' own claims is to miss the biggest reveal of all. As C. S. Lewis observes, Jesus made some stunning assertions, and we are left to choose only one of three options: \"he is either a liar, or he is a lunatic, or he is who he claimed to be-the Lord and only Son of God.\" If he is the son of God, it changes everything; we can no longer passively admire his teaching but must actively obey him as Lord.

In following Jesus, the aspiring Christian places all her trust in the biggest reveal of all, in Him who claimed to be the truth, the way to the Father, and giver of life abundant and eternal.


Chapter 30: Make Your Masterpiece by Living It

I'm standing here in pieces and you're having delusions of grandeur.
—C-3PO, to R2-D2 (Star Wars: Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back)

For it was you who formed my inward parts; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.
—Psalms 139:13-14


The spiritual life is about becoming more at home in your own skin,\" says the Quaker writer and teacher Parker Palmer. As the Jedi believed in the power of their destiny, Christians know our lives and passions are crafted by an infinitely creative Lord of the Force. By \"becoming more at home in our skin\" we discover our calling and make the masterpiece we are uniquely equipped to live. The Christian's call to grandeur is a duty, not a delusion.

The Talmud, the body of Jewish law, tells an illustrative story of Akiba, who on his deathbed worried aloud to his rabbi that he was a failure. His rabbi moved closer and asked why; Akiba confessed that he had not lived a life like Moses'. The poor man began to cry, admitting he feared God's judgment. At this, his rabbi leaned into his ear and whispered gently, \"God will not judge Akiba for not being Moses. God will judge Akiba for not being Akiba.\"

Your destiny is written in your onlyness. You are the only person ever to possess your unique blend of natural skills, temperament, experiences, and spiritual sensibilities. Observe your uniqueness and understand it. Be awake and attentive to the message God is sending you through how you are \"knit together,\" and then give it all back to the Lord of the Force. Remember the little boy who brought his loaves and fishes to Jesus, who then used them to feed the five thousand; in the same way, bring your loaves and fishes and offer them for their proper use, to be multiplied for the kingdom's sake.

Theologian Frederick Buechner described your calling this way: \"The kind of work God usually calls you to is the kind of work that you need most to do and that the world most needs to have done. The place God calls you is the place where your deep gladness and the world's deep hunger meet.\" Like Eric Liddell in the film Chariots of Fire, who felt God's pleasure when he ran fast, your gladness originates in doing what you love to do and are gifted to do well. Celebrate your talents, and then develop and express them in your work.

Because as a Jedi you are a servant in the kingdom of God, you must go beyond simply expressing your talents; you must invest them in a mission that matters. Finding your personal mission starts by identifying the need to which you are repeatedly drawn, the societal problem you most want to see fixed, the human sorrow your gifts might help relieve. Your life's irreducible purpose is found at the intersection of your specific gifts and the needs your life's work will address.

And what of money? The Jedi Christian seeks first the kingdom of the Lord of the Force and things such as food, clothing, and shelter secondarily. The culture tells you to make career choices first and foremost on the basis of money, but there are more significant rewards at stake. We do take seriously the need to provide for our families, because as the Apostle Paul said we are \"worse than unbelievers\" if we fail to adequately satisfy these earthly needs, but our primary reward is the spiritual satisfaction of meaningful work that contributes to the beauty of creation and furthers the will of God. Our wealth and riches are stored in heaven, not on earth.

Jedi invest their life in work that blends expression of talents, serving a mission that matters and making adequate provision for material needs. The result is your masterpiece, whether your work is sculpture or teaching, film or medicine, architecture or social work, rearing a family or software development. Your call to develop your gifts is where your masterpiece starts, and your ability to shape the culture around you for the glory of God is where it finds its fulfillment. In time you will also come to understand that every Jedi-like Christian has three general responsibilities in the world: to help create culture, to counter the prevailing culture, and to communicate in culture as an ambassador for Jesus.

It is said that the world is a stage; in creating the masterpiece that is your life, the Lord of the Force is the audience who matters most.

Re:Christian Wisdom of the Jedi Masters 22 Jun 2007 06:49 #3443

There is a lot of knowledge in this post that can be applied to all Jediism, not just those of the Christian Rite. With an open mind and willingness to learn, we can get knowledge and wisdom from numerous sources. All Jedi, no matter what Rite you may concider yourself under, can learn from and use the information provided here. Outstanding post Bshp Whiteman!

Re:Christian Wisdom of the Jedi Masters 22 Jun 2007 12:48 #3449

  • Jon
  • Jon's Avatar
  • OFFLINE
  • Novice
  • ID: 1798
I can only thank Master Tom for the gift of recommending this book. This is indeed a precious jewel. It is so simply written but speaks to the soul. It also manages to integrate the age old tradition of the Scriptures with the Star Wars saga. It certainly is not just a theoretical work, but something that can be applied in real life!
Bachelor of Arts in Philosophy & Theology

Ordained Roman Catholic Deacon

Certificate of Social Sciences

Examined in Mahayana Tibetan Buddhism - The joyful path of good fortune- Gesche Kelsang Gyatso

Grand Master of Jediism - Master Twsoundsoff

Ordained Bishop of Jediism - Cardinal Twsoundsoff

Doctor of Divinity - TOTJO

Master of Sithism

Re:Christian Wisdom of the Jedi Masters 11 Sep 2007 17:51 #6919

I have that book ,I have not started it yet but my intrest is peaked now.
In fact I have other people that want to read it also.

Re:Christian Wisdom of the Jedi Masters 12 Sep 2007 08:53 #6968

My first apprentice, Master Rachat (Bridgette) gave this book to me after she was Knighted. It has been a jewel in books for me and have truly enjoyed it and Highly recommended this not to only Christian Jedi but to all.

It is a book that one can place as a comparative religion study, a teaching tool for new Apprentice's and Knights, as well as a cherished book for Masters alike for a life time. This book has a way of bringing me back to the basics when I need a good thump to remind me when all the other teachings are knocking on my brain.

Dick Staub was able to do this to a level that places phrases from the Bible and quotes from the Saga's to see where the similarities can not be ignored, yet grasp you to read more. And then gives a clear interpretation of what it means and how it is realitive to the Bible quote.

A must read for Jedi all around!!
Grand Master Neaj Pa Bol (Rev. Patricia J. Bolcerek, D.D., O.C.P., O.S.M.)
Charter Member
Matriarch of the Order
Grand Master
SA & Bishop Abrahamic SIG

For today I serve so that tomorrow I may serve again.
One step, One Vow, One Moment...
Too always remember it is not about me....

Faith is daring the soul to go beyond what the eyes can see...
Faith is a journey, not a guilt trip...

Quiet your emotions to find inner peace.
Learn from ignorance to foster knowledge.
Enjoy your passions but be immersed in serenity.
Understand the chaos to see the harmony.
Life and death is to be one with the Force.
Latest Posts Comments Articles
    • Critical Thinking! (Last post by Alan)
    • The traditional purpose of public education in the US was to prepare citizens for active participation in civic duties. While this purpose continues the curricular emphasis now is on occupational training. I believe that public education K-12 is a factory-like process enforcing conformity to pass standardized tests. College is different. Even though colleges market their occupational training programs the humanities and social science departments are dedicated to the value of the liberal arts. These departments teach critical thinking skills as they are embedded in their particular disciplines. College philosophy departments Critical Thinking courses focus on teaching recognition of logical fallacies and the textbooks offered by publishers for this course are dedicated to this goal. The Critical Thinking course I teach is more Jedi-ist. We begin with booklets published by the Foundation for Critical Thinking. I recommend their publications and web site (criticalthinking.org). Then, after a four week introduction to the Foundation's principles of critical thinking, we apply this learning for the remainder of the semester to George Lakoff and Mark Johnson's excellent philosophical work, Metaphors We Live By. I highly recommend this book to all TotJO Novices and Apprentices.
    • The Balancing Force - a Jedi Reading of The Jade P... (Last post by tzb)
    • The Balancing Force - a Jedi reading of The Jade Pivot Written on 31st October 2014 I thought I'd give a Jedi interpretation of the Yü Shû King, by Hsüan-yang Dze, also known as The True Classic of the Pivot of Jade, delivered by the Heaven-Honoured One, Who produces Universal Transformation by the Sound of His Thunder. This short Taoist text is central to religious Taoism and is part of many religious Taoist services. It also provides a brief, practical guide to those who would become one with the Tao. The purpose of the text is, the author tells us, "to teach men to discipline and refine their spirit", in line with a belief in the Tao. I feel this has value for us as Jedi and our central belief in the Force. As such, my Jedi reading follows. ----- 1 The Force is transcendent. The Force is impossible to know directly, and can't be adequately described except by itself. You can't see or hear it; all you see or hear are things. Things come, things go, but the Force is that which is beyond mere things, and remains constant throughout even these seemingly universal transitions. Until you understand the transcendent nature of the Force, you can't begin to approach knowledge of it. 2 Difficulty is valuable. If you wish to know the Force, you must approach it with sincerity. To maintain this knowledge of the Force once you have it, you must be silent. If you wish to use the Force, you must be gentle. If you're sincere about the Force, you'll look stupid to others. Similarly, cultivating the silence required to remain aware of the Force will look like you're unable to speak. Acting gently enough to use the Force looks like a lack of ability. However, if you can do these three things and truly know the Force, you will transcend your body, transcend mere knowledge, transcend even your notion of "self" and become one with the Force. 3 Intellect is limited. Even a passing knowledge of the Force is enough to understand one's intellect can't give the complete picture of it. Likewise, one who understands the Force is naturally valiant in action, without having to think about it. Finally, working with the Force reveals tremendous subtleties to everything, without engaging the thinking process. So understanding these subtleties, one attains an air of intelligence. In being valiant by nature, the air of a true Jedi Knight is acquired. And in putting aside the desire to understand everything intellectually, rather than over-thinking or worrying about everything, true wisdom is attained. This is how Jedi become one with the Force. True transcendence of one's self in the Force is something which becomes natural, with true understanding of the meaning of the Force. You can't lose it - you'll forget there was ever any other kind of understanding of reality. It is the underlying truth of all reality. 4 Ignorance is environmental (and the Force transcends it anyway). Jedi are sworn to the benefit of all life. Through service we become greater than our short lives. A belief in the Force presupposes a sort of "destiny". However we are wise and ignorant in equal, balanced measure; for knowing that destiny is the underlying truth is not enough to actually predict it in any meaningful way. We are human; we will never know the future with absolute certainty. The best way to approach this is, as the previous verse describes, recognising that intellect can't give us the complete picture. In doing so we make our ignorance a form of knowledge, and our weakness a form of strength.* Weakness and ignorance are natural for humans, but the way of the Force is also a natural current in human lives. To achieve knowledge and strength in this way, all we have to do is surrender to the current of the Force. This happens spontaneously, sometimes without intellect, will or desire, sometimes with the greatest intellect, will and desire in the world. The conditions for its realisation cannot be manufactured, because the Force is not predictable by human intellect, and thus appears inherently spontaneous. This spontaneity is even more mysterious than the understanding it imparts in us. This spontaneity is the true nature of the Force. The Force can't be known through conventional, coarse means. It can never be reduced, compromised, cheapened. This is why it is supreme. ----- *My interpretation of this passage: We give up self-destructive habits like over-thinking and worry, and instead trust in the Force and the path we're taking as the right one in each moment, whether that be moving straight ahead, turning left or right, or retreating. We accept the moment and stop obsessing over the future or the past. We accept our one life has one un-branching course, not many, however habitually we imagine we might have acted differently.
    • Is A Fertilized Human Egg A Person? (Last post by steamboat28)
    • "Person", to me, implies someone with self-agency. That's why "legal persons" are typically those that have reached the age of majority so they can make their own choices, or (more unpopularly) corporations. A fertilized egg is well on its way to potentially becoming a fetus, and is a life form--whether we classify it as its own, or an extension of its mother until some arbitrary time we'll decide later, since we don't know much about how we define life or its beginnings and distinctions--but it's not really got any agency.
    • Be water, my friend (Last post by Alexandre Orion)
    • Yes ... I was just reading that. 98. ;) Of course, I've been reading it in the original French ... B) :blink: :lol: :woohoo: :laugh:
    • There is no Death (Last post by Streen)
    • I'm glad you found this thread useful, WRThore :) The original idea has very much changed my life and how I look at...well..life. Whatever the hell THAT is, LOL. A lot of things have been clicking into place in my mind that incorporate this sort of concept. It's Zen. Plays tricks with your mind, haha!
    • Insight Timer app for meditation (Last post by tzb)
    • Quote: Why do you all like this? It's useful. Traditionally monks would meditate with someone to ring a gong or bell to tell them when it was time to finish, this is a modern, technological equivalent you can carry around in your pocket. Also like anything else, tracking one's progress helps to build and reinforce the meditation habit. I have Meditation Helper set so if I haven't completed a meditation by a certain time of day, it notifies me as a reminder. Given the number of times before I had it I'd intend to meditate and then forget until I was too tired, that's pretty handy.
    • Course Comms (Last post by tzb)
    • Discussion 8 - Woman as Temptress now available: www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/the-h...8-woman-as-temptress PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THE COURSE COMMS THREAD
    • Discussion 8 - Woman as Temptress (Last post by tzb)
    • [image] We left our hero... meeting with the goddess, a powerful feminine force which gives their quest new light and hope. But not all feminine forces are positive. Will the next figure on their road be a friend or foe? After the previous topic, where the feminine force was a power the hero admired (or feared), this stage presents a fairly typical lesson about human nature: the hero begins to desire the feminine and wishes to make it his own. The hero is tempted. Interestingly however the typical mythic cycle does not reflect this as a failing on the part of the hero; rather, they posit the woman (either the Goddess of the prior stage or another feminine presence) as a temptress, guilty for alluring our protagonist from the path of their quest. Therefore the female force is presented mythically as both powerful enough to raise the woman to the position of a goddess, and insidious enough to lower her to the position of a temptress. [image] The most familiar example of this archetype is what we now refer to as the Femme Fatale. Present in much world literature (including the familiar figures of Lilith, the Sirens, Aphrodite, and Helen of Troy), Femme Fatales are seemingly wonderful figures who hide a dark secret - or perhaps reveal a darker side of the hero's nature. In modern storytelling the term Femme Fatale has become synonymous with the beautiful but conniving female leads of Film Noir stories, usually mysterious women who entrap, trick or otherwise manipulate the smitten hero. In Film Noir, Femme Fatales are often the cause of the hero's downfall. Often this is precisely because of the hero's good nature - they want to save the "damsel in distress", even to the point of committing atrocities. What they don't realise is she may not be as helpless as she appears. The narration of this video is sort of hilarious. The Hero's Journey is a transformative quest, as much about the growth of the hero as the situations they experience, or their underlying motive for acting. As such an experience of temptation is an essential "test" for the hero - a trial which reveals them as greater than their baser desires. Sometimes monomythic stories have no temptress as such, but merely place an item or idea in front of the hero which they want, badly. Temptation in general is a universal human theme - who among us hasn't been tempted by something we desire? When an adventure seems difficult or dark, who hasn't desired or been tempted to quit? The key lesson of this stage of the hero's journey is that not all enemies are dragons; they will have to battle their own flaws, their own weaknesses and their own demons. This transforming understanding of the obstacles they face is a crucial part of the hero's journey towards maturity. Sometimes the obstacle is our own selves - and other times it will look too good to be true. [image] It usually is. Quote: Generally we refuse to admit within ourselves, or within our friends, the fullness of that pushing, self-protective, malodorous, carnivorous, lecherous fever which is the very nature of the organic cell. Rather, we tend to perfume, whitewash, and reinterpret; meanwhile imagining that all the flies in the ointment, all the hairs in the soup, are the faults of some unpleasant someone else. But when it suddenly dawns on us, or is forced to our attention, that everything we think or do is necessarily tainted with the odor of the flesh, then, not uncommonly, there is experienced a moment of revulsion: life, the acts of life, the organs of life, woman in particular as the great symbol of life, become intolerable to the pure, the pure, pure soul. From The Hero with a Thousand Faces Examples Spoiler: * Gilgamesh: Siduri tries to tempt Gilgamesh away from his journey, telling him it is futile * The Odyssey: Calpso protects Odysseus but forces him to stay on her island. Circe also fits this mould somewhat * The Enlightenment of Buddha: Buddha faces continual temptation whilst beneath the bodhi tree, including "three voluptuous women" * The Crucifixion of Jesus: Mary Magdelene is present at Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection. Through much of history she has been painted as a sinful influence in Jesus' life * Beowulf: Beowulf gains great praise for his deeds and Hrothgar warns him about being tempted to pride, rather than remembering the role of god in his victory * The Theft of Thor's Hammer: The appearance of Thrym's sister demanding a bridal fee is an example of a female presence nearly pulling an adventure off course * King Arthur: Guinevere's dalliance with Lancelot threatens to destroy the harmony of Arthur's kingdom * The Lord of the Rings: Galadriel considers taking the ring and using its power * Star Wars Episode IV: Han and Luke compete over Leia's affections, Luke and Leia kiss (ew) * The Karate Kid: Daniel sees Ali kissing Johnny and is hurt by it * The Lion King: Nala makes Simba act like a horny teenager * The Matrix: Cypher is tempted by Agent Smith's offer of reinsertion into the Matrix - a "new life" away from the hardships of the Nebuchadnezzar's quest * Harry Potter: Harry sees his parents in the Mirror of Erised (another interesting subversion of the convention) Questions Spoiler: * What have been some of the major temptations in your life? How did you overcome them? Did they affect the course of your adventures? * Women are specifically mentioned at this stage of the Monomyth, but not men. What does this imply? How do you feel about your answer? * "The female force is presented mythically as both powerful enough to raise the woman to the position of a goddess, and indsidious enough to lower her to the position of a temptress." Why do you think this is? * What are some of the temptations which may lead a Jedi off their chosen path? Think particularly of the reference to Femmes Fatales using the hero's good nature against them, presenting an image of helplessness whilst secretly controlling the hero. Can you think of examples of where this type of situation might befall Jedi? How do we guard against it? Can we? Next: Atonement with the Father (Available Wednesday 5th November)
    • Yoga (Last post by Dessel761)
    • I would like to start doing some yoga at home. That being said, does anyone know of any good apps or videos to help with this?

There are 304 visitors, 12 guests and 29 members online (3  are in chat): Akkarin, Br. John, steamboat28, Jestor, Karn, ren, Kitsu Tails, roy1593, Darren, Kimla Daalm, Proteus, isisinabi, Alexandre Orion, Rosalyn J, Kamizu, Edan, Silvermane, tzb, babyblueyes247, Frost, SeventhSL, Revan Falton, GalUnDrux, Tarran, Mos-An Hobel, Kumbricia, Andrew Miller, Vanduul, Rocda, Unifex, RodneyLee, firewalkerx, Cyan Sarden, ThorlakurThor, Quaesitor, fredogaston, ChrisPeppas, Devcalner.

Follow Us